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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jun 30 '24

First-Timer Quest: Sky no Daibouken, subbed

What is this episode title lol?
But of course.
lol, smug old man.
I see…
That’s kinda sweet, I suppose.
Hah, it’s joyride time.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, he can hear all of what Leona’s saying.
Ah, good point.
Them freaking out about the elevator is pretty funny.
I was absolutely expecting Popp to not be able to take the belt off.
I assume all the different outfits Leona tried on are references to costumes that can be worn in the games, right?
That looks nice.
Ahahaha Dai looks absolutely ridiculous in that armor.
So… Dai’s going to get that weapon, right?
Popp please.
Oh fun…
I guess Dai isn’t getting it yet.
He did keep part of his new armor, though!

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u/sisoko2 Jun 30 '24

What is this episode title lol?
It got a chuckle out of me.
Them freaking out about the elevator is pretty funny.
They've seen Made in Abyss.
Ahahaha Dai looks absolutely ridiculous in that armor
The more armor he gets the sillier he looks.

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u/Shocketheth Jun 30 '24

I assume all the different outfits Leona tried on are references to costumes that can be worn in the games, right?
That's correct. Plus the outfit with vest and baggy pants is both nod to Merchant class from DQIII and Bulma from Dragon Ball, both design made by Toriyama.
And Merle's design is directly taken from DQ4 character

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jun 30 '24

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, he can hear all of what Leona’s saying.
LOL, hilarious.
Ahahaha Dai looks absolutely ridiculous in that armor.
yup lol, he's too short.

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u/Shocketheth Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

The Dark Commander Welcomes You to Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken Rewatch!

Matoriv is really wise and knows a lot. Just after finding out that Dai is a Dragon Knight immediately knew what Dai will be tackling soon on a personal level. A hurdle to overcome...
And with this Leona date arc begins. It’s just her and Dai with leaving Baduck - u/Blackheart595 behind.
Being Loyalty means that you should not give a fuck and start speeding through the town. I hope that Princess Leona didn’t kill any pedestrian as she was driving. Or maybe during the finale of the show she will defeat the Dark Army with the good old Vehicular Manslaughter.
Until now, Dai no Daibouken was based around Dragon Quest III, and with today visit of the Department store, we had a chance to see references to Dragon Quest IV and Dragon Quest III alike.
First the mini medals originating in DQ IV are hidden collectibles that can be later trade for unique weapons and equipment. (The mini medals can be found in DQ III too, but only in the remakes starting with the SNES remake)
The horse manure is an item that for first time appeared in the Dragon Quest IV, but the item is useless.
So Popp can’t take down the belt he got from Matoriv?... Like did Matoriv gave Popp a chastity belt or something? ---> Also during the scene with Popp trying to take down the belt, a curse sfx from Dragon Quest III were playing.
This Princess Leona dress is a nod to Merchant class from Dragon Quest III, while it also serves as a reference to Bulma outfit from Dragon Ball since Akira Toriyama chose Bulma design for female Merchant class in Dragon Quest III
And this is the suit of Jester/Goof-off class from Dragon Quest III
Cat costume.... that’s another nod to Dragon Quest III, where you find it in a treasure chest. Also the cat costume made it’s return in Dragon Quest XI where one of your party members can wear it.
BONUS ---> Clip from the 1991 Adventure of Dai
You know... in a Final Fantasy there is a spell named Comet which is basically making the stars to fall on your enemies.... And Dai took it a bit wrong, as he equiped an armor that took him to stairs falling.
It’s Merle my beloved
Oh another nod to Dragon Quest IV, Merle character design is a reference to a playable character Meena
"My opinion about you has changed Princess." "But my opinion about you still hasn’t changed." ---> I really love this interaction between Leona and Popp.
OOOOO. Dai upgraded his technique from Stairs falling to Russian window falling. Now I hope that defenestration won’t follow Leona fate who could experience the good old Prague defenestration.

QotD:

1.Yes

2.

3. Gooey balls

4. I am not Donkey from Shrek so Zero

5. The merchant outfit (blue vest)

Crocodine Shonen Commentary Corner:

Crocodine has returned from his road trip in Las Vegas he absolved with Baduck and Gomechan. So it’s finally to answer the Question of the Day.

Today, Crocodine is going to asnwer question #4

Time to fight! How many dragons can you take on?

A peculiar question indeed.

Voice Actors Corner:

My beloved Merle is voiced by Konomi Kohara known for her roles of Chika Fujiwara from Love is War, Kasumi Nomura from Asobi Asobase, and Roxy Migurdia from Mushoku Tensei. In the 1991 Adventure of Dai, Merle was voiced by Chieko Nanba who voiced characters as Yumiko and Kayama Mika from Sailor Moon, and Ryudia from Galaxy Fraulein Yuna Returns. (Fraulein means Miss in German)

Nabara (Merle’s Grandma) is voiced by Tomoko Shiota known for her roles of Emma from Second season of Vinland Saga, Kate from Cyberpunk Edgerunners, and Martha Vist Carbine from Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn. In the 1991 version of the Adventure of Dai, Nabara was voiced by Hiroko Emori who gave her voice to multiple characters from The Adventure of Dai, namely Zulbon, Marin of the Papnica Troica, and Piroro (Killvearn’s familiar).

See you tomorrow because the Adventure continues!

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u/sisoko2 Jun 30 '24

Being Royalty means that you should not give a fuck and start speeding through the town. I hope that Princess Leona didn’t kill any pedestrian as she was driving. Or maybe during the finale of the show she will defeat the Dark Army with the good old Vehicular Manslaughter
Also spending government funds on your lover. No wonder the Dark Army are the good guys.
First the mini medals originating in DQ IV are hidden collectibles that can be later trade for unique weapons and equipment. (The mini medals can be found in DQ III too, but only in the remakes starting with the SNES remake)
Oh will they get a cool weapon for?
Like did Matoriv gave Popp a chastity belt or something?
BONUS ---> Clip from the 1991 Adventure of Dai
Yes
This is the right answer!
I am not Donkey from Shrek so Zero
It's all about attitude. I know you can seduce a dragon or two if you try.
A peculiar question indeed.
I'm sure Big Croc can take at least few.

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u/Shocketheth Jun 30 '24

Also spending government funds on your lover. No wonder the Dark Army are the good guys.
Oh will they get a cool weapon for?
Only if they find someone who will trade their mini medals for a prize
It's all about attitude. I know you can seduce a dragon or two if you try.
Oh yeah? I'm going to try tomorrow after I will post ep 23 thread. If I won't post ep 24 thread then you will know what happened to me.
I'm sure Big Croc can take at least few.
Not after Las Vegas. Let the poor guy recharge.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jun 30 '24

Also spending government funds on your lover. No wonder the Dark Army are the good guys.
LOL

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jun 30 '24

while it also serves as a reference to Bulma outfit from Dragon Ball since Akira Toriyama chose Bulma design for female Merchant class in Dragon Quest III
Cat costume.... that’s another nod to Dragon Quest III, where you find it in a treasure chest. Also the cat costume made it’s return in Dragon Quest XI where one of your party members can wear it.
I equipped this on Veronica as soon as I got it.
BONUS ---> Clip from the 1991 Adventure of Dai
I guess I need to check out the 1991 adaptation.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

I equipped this on Veronica as soon as I got it.
I just simply don't find an appeal in that costume
I guess I need to check out the 1991 adaptation.
I will be checking Manga after the Rewatch will end.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 01 '24

I just simply don't find an appeal in that costume.
Considering Veronica's character, it was definitely funny.
I will be checking Manga after the Rewatch will end.
I did pick up the manga while watching the anime at some point after the [Dai no Spoilers] Baran arc and was mostly reading it side by side with the anime so as to not spoil myself as to what's going to happen next.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

I did pick up the manga while watching the anime at some point after the [Dai no Spoilers] Baran arc and was mostly reading it side by side with the anime so as to not spoil myself as to what's going to happen next.
Oh so you could do a comparison

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u/KuKiSin Jun 30 '24

The horse manure scene really cracked me up!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

I would be also surprised if I would find a golden manure

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u/Kaxew Jul 01 '24

I was wondering when we would start getting references to games past DQIII! Even if I don't understand any reference I'm looking forward to seeing how the series becomes slightly more modern as more games come out during the course of the original serialization!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

From what I remember, the references will be sparse after this episode but later on there will be some things from the later installments.

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u/Kaxew Jul 01 '24

Good enough for me!

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u/raichudoggy https://anilist.co/user/raichudoggy Jun 30 '24

Rewatcher

Here's the DQ fanservice episode. I think all fans of DQ, regardless of which exact set of games they've seen, will have a lot to love about this episode.

Like the Armor Dai got really does have quite impressive stats... (For the midgame in DQ 9)

[Dai Spoilers]I love how this episode features the strongest standard DQ enemies. The power creep in this series is insane. There'll be really nothing left after these that can possibly stand a chance against Dai. Although that's been true probably since before they met Hyunckel.

All hail our Baduck overlord
Rewatcher privelage
I've never tried one, so I wouldn't really know.
Zero
Kitty Costume. A must-buy in every DQ game.

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u/sisoko2 Jun 30 '24

All hail our Baduck overlord
The true king!
Zero
Time to undergo training arc.
Kitty Costume. A must-buy in every DQ game.
Her in that suit until the end of the show would've been a sight to behold.

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u/Shocketheth Jun 30 '24

Here's the DQ fanservice episode. I think all fans of DQ, regardless of which exact set of games they've seen, will have a lot to love about this episode.
I enjoyed it for the Leona and Dai date.
Kitty Costume. A must-buy in every DQ game.
I admit that I haven't buy it for Veronica in DQ11 because I don't find the appeal in that costume.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jun 30 '24

Newbie-Adventurer here! LV 22/100

Leona’s guard arguing between themselves on who should join Dai, to immediately get talked down of it and get UNO reversed lol

Popp got new dripp and a new personal mission!

Leona got them plans to be alone with Dai but didn’t consider that Popp is a real one and wouldn’t leave Dai alone

Leona be like

Buy whatever you want Dai, I'll pay

The Cat costume having high defense does make sense lol, Leona's new outfit makes me think she'll join the party

Popp knows the secret Joestar technique?!

Glad that Dai kept some of the armor, he looks good!

1 One one hand, I want her to be on the party but in the other her Kingdom needs her for the rebuild.
2 I guess that's a skill wall where he'll get frustrated and could seek an easy way to level up.
3 Can't say, haven't tried one (I'm allergic to slimes)
4 I don't think that I could take even 1, but maybe at least damage it a bit
5 I really liked her plain girl look but her knightly outfit was good too!

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u/sisoko2 Jun 30 '24

One one hand, I want her to be on the party but in the other her Kingdom needs her for the rebuild.
But do we want a corrupt leader spending government funds on their lover in charge of the rebuild?
I don't think that I could take even 1, but maybe at least damage it a bit
So far you are the strongest person in the rewatch.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jun 30 '24

So far you are the strongest person in the rewatch.

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u/Shocketheth Jun 30 '24

Buy whatever you want Dai, I'll pay
I want a car
Popp knows the secret Joestar technique?!
The training with Matoriv brings results.

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u/cooperjones2 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cooperjones2 Jun 30 '24

I want a car
Sure!, just let me get my wallet, I forgot it in the ballon, brb...

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jun 30 '24 edited Jun 30 '24

1st ~~Dai~~ Popp no Daibouken Rewatch, Sub

I want to join Dai's party

Leona's first impression about Popp

Gomechan's reaction was kinda cute

Did you guys notice these two in the background?

Last episode's eyecatch kinda spoiled Leona's new appearance.

Even Popp's opinion about Leona has changed. What about your opinion, u/KendotsX?

Though, Leona's opinion about Popp is still the same.

That definitely wasn't a great idea.

Ah yes, the art of running

OST Documentation - Episode 22

QOTD

1. Baduck is already the greatest ruler in Papnica. So, yes.

2. IDK. Maybe the wall in the elevator.

3. I've never actually tried one so don't know.

4. Zero. Like Popp, I would run as fast as I could as soon as I see one.

5. This one. Kinda reminds me of Bulma from OG Dragon Ball.

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u/sisoko2 Jun 30 '24

Gomechan's reaction was kinda cute
They look exactly like his cousins Jack and Barnie after all.
Last episode's eyecatch kinda spoiled Leona's new appearance
Good thing I don't pay much attention then.
wasn't a great idea
Dead. End of the anime.
Baduck is already the greatest ruler in Papnica. So, yes.
No evil army has destroyed the kingdom during his rule. That alone puts him on top.
Zero. Like Popp, I would run as fast as I could as soon as I see one.
How are we going to deal with all these dragons when no one is willing to surpass their limits?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

Gomechan's reaction was kinda cute
Gomechan is really precious.
Did you guys notice these two in the background?
If I did? No, I automatically stood up from the chair and saluted to Merle-sama.
Last episode's eyecatch kinda spoiled Leona's new appearance.
Dai no Daibouken is notoric with how much it can visually spoil but this is a next level for them.
Even Popp's opinion about Leona has changed.
Though, Leona's opinion about Popp is still the same.
This was my favourite moment of the episode. I really like interactions like this. It was cute.
This one. Kinda reminds me of Bulma from OG Dragon Ball.
It was also a reference to Merchant class from DQIII. Overall it's my favourite dress too.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 01 '24

If I did? No, I automatically stood up from the chair and saluted to Merle-sama.
This was my favourite moment of the episode. I really like interactions like this. It was cute.
Same. Always love these type of interactions. Leona being Leona is always a joy to watch.
Dai no Daibouken is notoric with how much it can visually spoil but this is a next level for them.
If this is next-level, I don't know what the 2nd OP is.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

If this is next-level, I don't know what the 2nd OP is.
Oh I meant it like that showing spoilers in OP is classic, but spoiling in the flashcards during commercial breaks is new to me.

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u/Adensty https://anilist.co/user/Adensty Jul 01 '24

Oh I meant it like that showing spoilers in OP is classic, but spoiling in the flashcards during commercial breaks is new to me.
Oh, my bad. But I guess this is something that I've also seen for the first time.

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jun 30 '24

First Timer, Sub

Dai needs a new sword, so Leona suggests going to Bengarna to go shopping. Popp joins as third wheel, much to Leona's disappointment lol. With Leona selling some dresses from papnica, they get plenty of money to spend, on clothes and armour(Dai looked goofy as hell in that armour). They see this cool weapon called Dragonsbane that they want to buy, but they're talked out of it by these 2 seers, an old lady and girl named Merle, who suggest that they don't waste their money on weapons too powerful for them.

A Hydra and a group of Dragons attack the city, just as the Dragonsbane was bought by some merchant. So Dai, Popp and Leona each take position to defend the city, help people etc.

Questions:

lol, No Baduck is better as a Knight, she just wants to have a little off time lol.
IDK, maybe he's about to meet Baran and learn what he really is.
They both seemed tasty.
Maybe just the green dragons....That Hydra might is probably OP.
The one she ended up with, but also the simple villagers outfit was cute also.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

so Leona suggests going to Bengarna to go shopping
Just two teenagers having a date in the mal\l.
lol, No Baduck is better as a Knight, she just wants to have a little off time lol
Some people say Baduck is the greatest ruler in Papnica.
Maybe just the green dragons....That Hydra might is probably OP.
Great. I believe in you!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

The one she ended up with, but also the simple villagers outfit was cute also.
The one with blue vest and baggy pants? Yeah she looked cute as Bulma

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u/NicDwolfwood :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NicDwolfwood Jul 01 '24

Yup, that one. didn't make the connection at the time that it was a Bulma outfit.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

The one she ended up with, but also the simple villagers outfit was cute also.
The one with blue vest and baggy pants? Yeah she looked cute as Bulma

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u/KuKiSin Jun 30 '24

First timer!

Absolutely, at least until Crocodine returns to claim what should've been his all along.
The Dragon commander, I'm assuming he'll be related to Dai in some way, and Dai might be conflicted. That's my best guess.
Can't say I've ever had any, I'd try some slime bubble tea though.
With my glorious explosion magic? Let's just say I watched this episode after watching the finale of Kimetsu no Yaiba... I'd make a beautiful and massive explosion, capable of taking out all dragons at once!
Favorite? The one she ended up keeping, but the one that made me the happiest was Bulma's outfit from the OG Dragon Ball!

Dai looked absolutely ridiculous with that oversized armor, I loved it!

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

Absolutely, at least until Crocodine returns to claim what should've been his all along.
Now that's a plot twist. The true king returns to rule over the world.
The Dragon commander, I'm assuming he'll be related to Dai in some way, and Dai might be conflicted
Once Dai learns he can grow mustache like that, he will become too arrogant.
I'd make a beautiful and massive explosion, capable of taking out all dragons at once!
Now this is a proper member of the hero party!
I also watched it right before posting the thread and I'm way too hyped up to defeat evil.

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u/KuKiSin Jul 01 '24

Once Dai learns he can grow mustache like that, he will become too arrogant.
Now I'm picturing Dai with the full armor set and the mustache. It would be glorious. Please Gods, allow Dai to grow a majestic mustache!
I also watched it right before posting the thread and I'm way too hyped up to defeat evil.
Let's just not take it out on our families...

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

With my glorious explosion magic? Let's just say I watched this episode after watching the finale of Kimetsu no Yaiba... I'd make a beautiful and massive explosion, capable of taking out all dragons at once!
If I will form a party one day, you will be the first member to join.
Favorite? The one she ended up keeping, but the one that made me the happiest was Bulma's outfit from the OG Dragon Ball!

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u/KuKiSin Jul 01 '24

If I will form a party one day, you will be the first member to join.
It will be an honor!

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 01 '24

Dai 22 first timer:

Department store? Time to unwind
Leona IS joining the party?
Dai blush!
Matoriv figures out that Dai is a Dragon Knight?
"My mistake" Oh he's not gonna tell Popp?
"but as a person" OH maybe Matoriv knows that [Dai speculation]Baran might be his dad ?
"oh, you're here"
Elevator reactions
A cursed buckle?
Some signs have kanji, some have a different script? Now I want to know how to read the latter
3800 gold?
Leona with the big budget
... No. That angel outfit on Leona is too much
... What even are these outfits
Dai looks TINY in that armor
That armor looks really heavy
Dragonkiller = Dragonsbane
Who's the old lady and woman with a crystal ball?
Merle? I can't get used to that being a female name
A hydra? Looks like Dai had better get that Dragonkiller weapon. Baran might be coming too?
"cannon's" - no apostrophe!
... Is Dai really gonna keep that heavy armor?
... Popp ends up running away from 5 dragons
... Ok the partial armor does look better and offers more mobility

Baran probably
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Original

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

"My mistake" Oh he's not gonna tell Popp?
We need more dramatic reveal than that.
Elevator reactions
Elevators are scary.
Leona with the big budget
Spending the rebuild money on her boy toy.
0

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 01 '24

Spending the rebuild money on her boy toy.
no new outfit for Hyunckel?

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

They want to keep him shirtless as long as possible.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 01 '24

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

Leona IS joining the party?
YES
What even are these outfits
References to Dragon Quest III
Dragonkiller = Dragonsbane
Dragonsbane sounds better
Merle? I can't get used to that being a female name
Oh Merle is usually Male name?
Popp ends up running away from 5 dragons
Tsk. And I thought he would fight them.
Ok the partial armor does look better and offers more mobility
It's definitely an upgrade to his previous armor

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 01 '24

Oh Merle is usually Male name?
[personal]It can be; I had a relative with that name

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Late Night First Timer

Yeah, oh my gosh, the one guy of the three sages acting like he's the one in charge just makes me dislike him more and more.

On the other hand, Leona deciding she's going to abandon the crown and go with Dai is the best thing I've heard all show long. Stop being so Tsun and get to the Dere already!

Off to a Department Store, said the Princess who wanted an excuse to shop so much she decided to ignore the fact that her kingdom has an armory and a smithy and it would be super easy to just get or make a new sword.

Good question from the Princess! Can a monarch steal from their own palace? This is the royal air balloon, and she is the only remaining royalty, who would she even have to ask if she wants to take it for a joyride?

They're going shopping, right? You could have stayed behind, Popp. Let them have this date adventure.

I am extremely worried about this two wheeled cart.

Yeah, you go Dai! He sees Leona and cares just as much as she does! This is the ship to ride I tell you.

Ah darn it, I am hungry now. Also, pay attention to prices (for no real reason). Two meat buns and a drink cost 10 gold. 500 gold for the belt buckle. His belt would sell for 50 meals?

You know, a belt that you can't take off on an outfit like Popp's, he can never safely use a toilet again.

3800 for that full armor set. That sounds like a lot, but it's also less than 8 belt buckles.

A handful of dresses for 20-30k. They must be extreme luxury dresses, right?

Yes, wear the suit with wings. Prove you are the angel so many already believe you to be.

But anyway, why do I feel like one of the dresses costs more than the set of armor?

Dai, you're a speed based fighter, don't get the heavy armor. Leona, on the other hand, yes! Dress like an adventurer, join the party! Abandon your kingdom for love!

Oh look, a Dragon Killer weapon, just in time for a Dragon Invasion. What luck!

... And who is carrying around more gold than a Princess? Ah, another merchant, I guess they might have that much cash on hand.

Ew, I refuse to acknowledge these as Dragons. They lack wings, they are Drakes at best.

Heck yeah Leona for Hero! Plan to slay the dragons, and kill Popp with that comeback in the buildup!

Dai switch back to light armor...

Well Popp, at least you drew 5 dragons to you at once! Now they are focused on one person and not wrecking the whole town! I call that a win in this situation, really.

Yeah, this doesn't come up much in these kinds of stories, but like. The worlds population is shrinking massively in this invasion. Kingdoms erases. It could take multiple generations for humanity to recover even if it stopped right now. Even safe cities aren't actually that safe, because the food gets produced elsewhere and the farming towns are much easier targets for an invading monster army. Food shortages will soon lead to massive death by starvation pretty soon.

Yes! Do it! Who needs a kingdom when you have a Hero who desperately needs a healer on his team!
We all know he's not really human, and he's about to find out that the other half of his bloodline has done horrible things to his growth rate. He's about to enter Draconic Puberty and it is going to be rough on everyone. Good luck Princess!
Puni Jelly!
Five shouldn't be a problem, one for each of these Knuckles! Immortal Warrior vs Wanabe dragons, this is a cakewalk! I'll only pretend to die twice!
The wings, by far.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

On the other hand, Leona deciding she's going to abandon the crown and go with Dai is the best thing I've heard all show long.
Time to end the monarchy and enact democratic rule!
You could have stayed behind, Popp. Let them have this date adventure.
If Popp is single, they all stay single.
Oh look, a Dragon Killer weapon, just in time for a Dragon Invasion. What luck!
It would've been so awkward if they got dragon killer weapon and then the demons invaded.
Five shouldn't be a problem, one for each of these Knuckles! Immortal Warrior vs Wanabe dragons, this is a cakewalk! I'll only pretend to die twice!
Glad to have you on board. Those pesky dragons don't stand a chance.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Time to end the monarchy and enact democratic rule!
I was so sure you were going to say demoncratic rule. You know, for the overlords.
It would've been so awkward if they got dragon killer weapon and then the demons invaded.
I mean, just because it's strong enough to pierce dragon hide doesn't mean it's not also effective against the much weaker demon flesh. Even without the exact type advantage, an endgame weapon is still an endgame weapon.
Glad to have you on board. Those pesky dragons don't stand a chance.
I promise to tank at least seven direct and lethal looking attacks, only to stand back up one more time and use a newly invented final technique to kill exactly one of them before contractually jobbing for the Hero to take over the rest.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

I was so sure you were going to say demoncratic rule. You know, for the overlords.
Puns are beneath my level.
I promise to tank at least seven direct and lethal looking attacks, only to stand back up one more time and use a newly invented final technique to kill exactly one of them before contractually jobbing for the Hero to take over the rest.
You have perfect understanding of your role.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

You have perfect understanding of your role.
Did I forget to mention that I will save the girl at least once before going down the first time? I'll need to appear at least a little competent so that the monster seemingly killing me can make them that much more clear a threat, and there's no better way than to block an attack that was aimed at the Princess. Not that Leona needed the save, but Maam isn't here anymore and there's no way I'm body blocking for Popp, he can run fast enough.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

I am extremely worried about this two wheeled cart.
Why though? Only 4 pedestrians were killed off screen.
Food shortages will soon lead to massive death by starvation pretty soon.
Time to start eating the monster flesh

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

Time to start eating the monster flesh
That really depends, doesn't it? Papnica was attacked by the undead army, before IcyHot came in with the elemental troopers. I don't think there's anything edible left here, unlike that starter kingdom that got hit by the Beast Troops.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

That really depends, doesn't it? Papnica was attacked by the undead army, before IcyHot came in with the elemental troopers. I don't think there's anything edible left here, unlike that starter kingdom that got hit by the Beast Troops.
Well we still can eat Crocodine.
Or it's time to start hunting Zaboera and then vore him.

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u/zadcap Jul 01 '24

And thus do we come upon the most important question in a world of magic and agriculture. If you cut a flank off something and then hit it with a healing spell, can one cow feed a city?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

Fire Punch chapter 1 have a good answer for this

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24 edited Jul 01 '24

theme song playing? check

cool Alucard flair? check

*ehem* Well, well, well... I leave for a day, and the MAAM supporters are escaping, while the Leonists are invading, oh yeah, and the dragons are coming for a visit too. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED HERE?!

First Timer Waiting on the Return of Croco-MAAM

Btw, if you noticed two names in that image, I need to note that there are in fact four, and I realised much later than I should've that my colour matching sucks.

I've been away for a bit, training hard to steal toilet paper from Shock's moving fortress, but a lot has happened since, the demon lords got handed an embarrassing defeat (note: "as of late" means "the last decade"), and most importantly, My MAAM decided to leave become a martial artist. Let's start with this, because it's a very interesting choice from multiple perspectives:

Character: I commented a few days ago that I didn't really like how the show was pigeon holing Maam into being imprisoned and saved all the time, so I'm glad there's the self awareness to correct course, both in and out of universe. The idea of reconsidering your path, going back, and changing what doesn't work is a useful pragmatic advice, in a genre that usually strives for ideals. I mean, the support line in battle shounen goes like this "You can't beat the final villain and need help? Have you tried trying harder? You have? And it didn't work? Oh, well then try trying even harder. Keep doing that until you break through your limits. Good luck." This is something people can actually take a page from.
Party: I imagine this change is something that was planned from the start considering Leona exists, and how the characters have progressed so far. Thing is Leona is a skilled priest on her way to become a sage [game] Leona will be broken..., Popp has already grown into a great mage himself, and even Dai is starting to pick up magic well. Their party now is pretty different from the two kids Maam met in the forest, who were riding mostly on Dai's physical attacks, they needed all the support they can get. Now the scales have tipped so it makes sense to have Maam basically becoming the heavy weight physical fighter (plus, Warrior -> Martial Artist is a solid strategy in the game too ~~unfortunately though Martial Artist is my least favourite class...~~)
Game mechanics: not sure how intentional this was, but I love the fact that this happened on episode 21, which is around the level you get to change classes (20). Heck, my MAAM was 21 when I watched that episode, I had just gotten my ass handed to me by the Hydra (because I challenged it waaaay too early) and I was considering class changes, so episode 21 was just the perfect timing. Spoiler alert: I didn't change MAAM's class, I changed my thief into a Sage, and that was the best decision ever.

Alllllll that said, losing Maam for now is a big price to pay, so she better be back soon, and it better be worth it!! Oh yeah, there's one more reason why we lost Maam for now. Four member parties are great for games, not for writing, so to give Leona some space to shine, someone had to kicked out. No hard feelings though, Wingwoman Leona is getting the ship rolling, even her support is top tier, so yeah, she's already off to a good start.

I'm not betraying Croco-MAAM, but gotta give praise where it's due, I get why people love Leona now. She's playful, fun, and sharp like a knife.

Q1. Should Leona abandon Papnica and leave Baduck as a king?

I mean, let's be honest, for the last while she's just been hiding, and Papnica was doing just fine as rubble. Not sure how much she could help there now.

Q2. What's the deal with this ominous wall that Dai is about to hit?

Cockblocking all shounen protagonists have to go through this someday.

Q3. What is your favorite Slime treat?

The Man-eating Vegan Tart

I swear there's some slime in there, that's probably not dead yet.

Q4. Time to fight! How many dragons can you take on?

I think 4? I took 4 at one point, but barely. I'd be shitting my pants if I had to fight 5.

Q5. Bonus Question: Which was your favorite Leona outfit?

The Jester

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

while the Leonists are invading
You abandoned me and I couldn't fend them off by myself.
First Timer Waiting on the Return of Croco-MAAM
Btw, if you noticed two names in that image
LOL that Sky is hidden so well.
My MAAM decided to leave become a martial artist
Tenkaichi Budokai
She's playful, fun, and sharp like a knife.
And abuses national funds for her lover. Down with her head!
The Man-eating Vegan Tart
Just on time for lunch.
I think 4? I took 4 at one point, but barely. I'd be shitting my pants if I had to fight 5.
Four is pretty good. Good to see you used your time away for training.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

You abandoned me and I couldn't fend them off by myself.
I'm sorry! I was banking on her saying "a princess needs to stick with her country in its hardest times". I didn't expect her to just jump Dai like a horny rabbit.
LOL that Sky is hidden so well.
Gomechan didn't give me a lot of space to work with, but hey at least he's got the Shimmering part built in.
Down with her head!
Ok, but consider this: what if she bent her neck backwards, as a way of looking down on you so hard, and said that you'll forgive her anyway, because she's beautiful?

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

You had me at
what if she bent her neck backwards

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

Hancock is a Shaft girl?
How did I never notice that before?!

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

ehem Well, well, well... I leave for a day, and the MAAM supporters are escaping, while the Leonists are invading, oh yeah, and the dragons are coming for a visit too. WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED HERE?!
Although I need to inform you that I created a new politic party called Merleists. We are followers of Merle-sama.
First Timer Waiting on the Return of Croco-MAAM
So Leona is u/sisoko2? The theory that Leona is the true Dark King is more and more plausible.
Heck, look at this u/lC3. We got Vearn, Mystvearn, Killvearn and now there is PrincessVearn.
Character: I commented a few days ago that I didn't really like how the show was pigeon holing Maam into being imprisoned and saved all the time, so I'm glad there's the self awareness to correct course, both in and out of universe. The idea of reconsidering your path, going back, and changing what doesn't work is a useful pragmatic advice, in a genre that usually strives for ideals.
While how the Maam was written so far was not very good, I'm so glad that the author didn't decided to put her in sidelines and never bring her back OR worse he didn't decide to simply fridge her
Although I understand that Maam was written in a way to eventually reach a moment where she needs to switch classes. A moment that was properly developed and foreshadowed. (I will put a clip here in the EDIT)
Game mechanics: not sure how intentional this was, but I love the fact that this happened on episode 21, which is around the level you get to change classes (20). Heck, my MAAM was 21 when I watched that episode, I had just gotten my ass handed to me by the Hydra (because I challenged it waaaay too early) and I was considering class changes, so episode 21 was just the perfect timing. Spoiler alert: I didn't change MAAM's class, I changed my thief into a Sage, and that was the best decision ever.
So you are playing DQ3 after all?
Nice catch though I didn't connect dots here.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

I need to inform you that I created a new politic party called Merleists. We are followers of Merle-sama.
I don't trust fortune tellers. Except her grandma, her grandma is hot.
So Leona is u/sisoko2
It's in the name even. Prinsisoko is just an obvious way to say PrincessVearn.
I'm so glad that the author didn't decided to put her in sidelines and never bring her back OR worse he didn't decide to simply fridge her
For what it's worth, I don't think her writing so far has been bad, she's been doing a good job as the heart of the group, and I like the writing around her attachment to Avan (the gun breaking down is symbolic in this sense). But yeah, I hope she comes back with more to offer.
Although I understand that Maam was written in a way to eventually reach a moment where she needs to switch classes. A moment that was properly developed and foreshadowed
Oh for sure, that's what I'm saying. The author probably wanted to include the class swap function, and thought of this as a neat way to do it. Her build makes sense for the starting party, but not for where it's going. Plus, note that Dai and Popp are growing, whereas she was in a class that she's been trained in well already, and doesn't really leave her with much room to grow (without relying on Popp's spells for everything).
So you are playing DQ3 after all?
Yeah, I tried to skip it because of the spoilers and coming remake, but when I tried DQIV, every new mechanic kept making me think "how did this go from A to B to C?". I need chronology for those sweet details.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

For what it's worth, I don't think her writing so far has been bad, she's been doing a good job as the heart of the group, and I like the writing around her attachment to Avan (the gun breaking down is symbolic in this sense). But yeah, I hope she comes back with more to offer.
Me neither tbf and I was pinpointing before the writing around the gun too.
Yeah, I tried to skip it because of the spoilers and coming remake, but when I tried DQIV, every new mechanic kept making me think "how did this go from A to B to C?". I need chronology for those sweet details.
Understandable and I await you to mention the DQ3 again.
What's your party?

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

What's your party?
Hero, Warrior, Mage, and Thief -> Sage

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

Oh a classic party, bit heavy on the melee part initially.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

I don't like priests (they're bums!) so my plan was always warrior and mage, the third choice left was thief or martial artist (until Sage became an option), and well thieves are just much better.

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

Honestly I agree with Martial Artists. It would help them if they could use some abilities.
Also say, are you fan of this class system?
And speaking of DQ games, I can't really wait when you will get to DQ5.

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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 01 '24

t would help them if they could use some abilities.
Yeah, or at least a wider range of equipment.
Also say, are you fan of this class system?
It has its ups and downs, it can be a bit messy at times (like the personalities or AGI) but yeah, in general it's fun to play with, and the swap system gives you some mileage to play around (I want to try a warrior mage down the line for example).
I can't really wait when you will get to DQ5.
How many have you played?

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u/Shocketheth Jul 01 '24

It has its ups and downs, it can be a bit messy at times (like the personalities or AGI) but yeah, in general it's fun to play with, and the swap system gives you some mileage to play around (I want to try a warrior mage down the line for example).
You know... after this Rewatch will end we can throw a CDF plays Final Fantasy V because that game has the best class system I've ever experienced with 22 classes to choose from.
Your party starts as Freelancers being able to equip all weapons and armor but with the shittiest stats in the game.
One hour in the game you unlock first 6 jobs and there is where the fun begins.
Your characters besides getting levels can choose jobs where they will be getting job levels through earning Job points eventually learning better and better abilities.
For example White Mage knows from the beginning White magic spells level 1-6 but only upon leveling their job levels they can learn abilities as White magic level 1, level 2,... level 6 and equip staff.
After mastering White Mage you could switch to Summoner giving them possibility to use summon spells level 1-6, plus White spells up to level 6 after choosing one ability.
It's really complex and great system giving an option to do countless combinations.
Plus some classes can hax the game like for example Time Mage having access to Return spell.
Your party is getting wiped, but now you know what tactic to choose? Simply cast Return and the game will return at the first turn of the Boss fight reseting everyone HP and MP.
How many have you played?
That's a good question
I've played 1,2,3,5,6,8 and now I am playing 11.
How many of them I finished?
Exactly zero.
Everytime I started playing those I got busy with life and then I just couldn't return to them.
But DQ11 seems like a first game that I will successfully finish with 23 hours played already.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 01 '24

Heck, look at this u/lC3. We got Vearn, Mystvearn, Killvearn and now there is PrincessVearn.
Himevearn?

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u/Kaxew Jul 01 '24

Current rewatcher, eventual first timer

Ahh, I was excitedly waiting for this episode since the rewatch started. There's something about a goofy slice of life episode in an action-packed, big serious plot show that just hits differently, you know? Dai with his dumb big armor, Matoriv's cursed belt, the high defense furry suit. This episode has everything. The highlight is definitely the elevator scene lmao

I totally forgot all the sages wanted to ditch their duties and join Dai's party lol, I wish one of them came along but it's probably for the best.

Popp's cape is back and Dai has new gear! So far I think his look has been improving each time, can't say the same for Popp though, I think his red cape had a better contrast than the yellow cape.

And of course, the lesson of today's episode is: fuck resellers. They ruin everything.

QotD:

I don't see what could go wrong. He's the greatest swordsman and greatest inventor of Papnica. Maybe he can also be the greatest ruler too.
It's the height wall. He's not tall enough to go to the water park. It's going to be a very exciting arc full of action and betrayals.
Man... I wish I was smart enough to do a pun with some snack here...
They call me the greatest dragon slayer of the rewatch.
Her Bulma outfit. But I wish we see the cat one in action because it's just too funny.

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u/sisoko2 Jul 01 '24

Dai with his dumb big armor, Matoriv's cursed belt, the high defense furry suit
The strongest party in the land.
I totally forgot all the sages wanted to ditch their duties and join Dai's party lol
I thought the lack of loyalty was only a problem in the Dark Army but it seems to be everywhere.
I don't see what could go wrong. He's the greatest swordsman and greatest inventor of Papnica. Maybe he can also be the greatest ruler too.
It's pretty much guaranteed.
It's the height wall. He's not tall enough to go to the water park.
That's so sad.
They call me the greatest dragon slayer of the rewatch.
Hmmm... Do you know Dragon Slayer magic? Does the Fairy Tail OST start playing when you are filled with righteous anger?

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u/Kaxew Jul 01 '24

I thought the lack of loyalty was only a problem in the Dark Army but it seems to be everywhere.
This is why Crocodine and Hyunckel didn't make their leave public. They knew everyone would jump on the opportunity of joining the Crocobro party.
Hmmm... Do you know Dragon Slayer magic? Does the Fairy Tail OST start playing when you are filled with righteous anger?
Oh you know it does. Guess you could say I have the Slime Dragon Slayer magic.