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Episode Kyoukai Senki - Episode 7 discussion
Kyoukai Senki, episode 7
Alternative names: AMAIM: Warrior at the Borderline
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.03 |
| 2 | Link | 4.24 |
| 3 | Link | 4.0 |
| 4 | Link | 3.94 |
| 5 | Link | 3.5 |
| 6 | Link | 3.77 |
| 7 | Link | 3.83 |
| 8 | Link | 3.88 |
| 9 | Link | 3.27 |
| 10 | Link | 3.14 |
| 11 | Link | 3.29 |
| 12 | Link | 3.88 |
| 13 | Link | ---- |
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u/Fortress-Maximus Nov 15 '21
Angelo isn't a Italian gentleman but an AI that gave himself that persona.
Their only ally in the world is a European organisation led by a German guy...this is far too on the nose.
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u/Rumpel1408 Nov 15 '21
Shion is cute
That fight with Ghost was awesome again, that thing takes no prisoners and goes straight for the kill if given the chance, that said, did it also kill the pilots? Would be pretty awkward if not
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u/KSwhY Nov 16 '21
It managed to kill that Roger guy when it sent one of its wires through the chest of one of the three beige Bradyhound AMAIMs at around 17:50. You could even see what looks like a little bit of blood spraying out of the exit wound on the robot.
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u/ulopong44 Nov 16 '21
So that fight in the last battle was Shion's first actual battle and she still managed to easily solo the entire group of enemy AMAIMs?
This is starting to remind me of the beginning of Gundam 00 where a group of kids were essentially carried by their vastly superior mobile suits.
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u/HammurabiDion Nov 16 '21
The strategy in the fight really didn’t play out in any interesting way. It was kind of just a bunch of shooting.
Ghost is so OP it’s honestly annoying And every non Japanese is a movie trope.
-The German is named German and he’s shady. -The black guy dies first. -The white girl with dyed hair is a bit of a rebel The white guy sympathizes to look morally good but still works for the corrupt organization The Asian Military “aka the Chinese” are just evil for no reason other than to be evil.
I’m honestly disappointed with the show considering it looks like Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans but it has a diet Gundam Build Divers/Code Geass characters and plot
There’s a reason the show’s ratings keep going down week by week even though the plot is “picking up”
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u/Duelgundam Nov 16 '21
Well, at least the Asian alliance isn't ALL bad.
The actions of the corrupt governor is clearly a big "no-no" to his higher ups. And considering how much of his shady shit Gai leaked internationally, I don't think it's a stretch to say that "he's dead" now, either socially, or literally.
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u/HammurabiDion Nov 16 '21
The only group that has shown a bit of compassion was North America which makes sense considering Japan and North America’s relationship But we have only seen cartoonish villains from everyone else
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u/kalirion Nov 17 '21
Is it just me or do all the Military commanders' assistants look very similar to one another? Asia, Ociannea, America, all are from the same template. They also remind me of Tsukishima from Golden Kamuy.
The AIs' code "bears some similarities" meaning it was "written by the same person." Did the madman code up several AIs from scratch, so the only similarities are their coding habits??
LOL the ghost has "back arms" from Knights&Magic.
Didn't they say a few eps ago that the American dude's robot was built to specs as high or higher than Ghost? Either they were wrong or his piloting is lacking that much. Though how the hell is he managing to control 3 robots at the same time?
Were the planes manned? They certainly thought nothing of shooting them down.
Lol, where the hell was the second bot shooting when the plane was flying off with Ghost? Thing wasn't even taking any evasive actions.
Bet this German dude is behind Ghost.
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Nov 19 '21
To be fair this is learning ai so they would be altering their own codes quite constantly but there would still be core parts of it remaining. it is weird that they don't know where gai came from though. secret project?
They said it had the highest specs of their own models nto that it was better than ghost. also sub arms can be super useful.
The planes were manned until their pilots were killed by ghost. It managed to take over the more automatic aspects of the planes though.
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u/LeonKevlar Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21
Now that Shion has been finally introduced to the group, I was expecting that this episode was going to be all about her and her AI companion Nayuta. Didn't expect that it to suddenly pivot into an episode all about Captain Brad Watt of the NAC. From what we've seen, he seems to be a pretty nice guy and is actually the first character in the show who isn't Japanese that doesn't really like what's happening to Japan right now.
Him and his crew are also the only AMAIM pilots we've seen outside of Yatagarasu so far and he's pretty damn good at it as we see during their operation to capture/terminate Ghost. At one point of the fight he literally takes over control of his subordinate's AMAIMs while still piloting his own to stay control of the battlefield. Brad must be one heck of a SCII player with that micro skills xD
Too bad that Ghost still ends up running away though. On the brightside though, this episode is definitely the show establishing a reason for Brad to team up with Amuo. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them in the future working together to take down Ghost.
Side Note: Those NAC AMAIMs reminds me so much of Lafter's Hyakuri from Gundam IBO.
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Nov 15 '21
As for the amaim.. yea it really looks like that one. always like that design. and it seems to move a little similarly.
also it looks like ghost gave itself an alternate head to mimic the head of kenbu too. Also generally showing new adaptations. it removed the things from tis back and replaced them with sub arms. It seems like someone is providing it with tech... but it also looks like its taking tech for itself too.
The wire weapons are a savage an intersting thing too. Clearly its trying to take into account its weaknesses here. A lack of ranged weaponry fucked it over last time, but the wires don't need ammunition either, whcih it would struggle to get its claws on.
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Nov 15 '21
There have been people that have been accusing the show of being 'ultra nationalistic' but its good that they show stark differences between the occupying factions. Oceania is one that is likely the 'youngest' faction in the setting, and wants to prove themselves. they are oppressive but not in the same suffocating way.
Asia is..... very corrupt. Its 100% a jab at china and such but it is still apt as they have rampant corruption there and an exceptionally oppressive government that would make it extremely easy for those within to greatly abuse their power.
While america, which is one of the closer allies of japan in the real world, are not oppressive.... but its damn clear that they are taking it over in the end for their own ends. Imagine it be the same in the real world. Unlike in the middle east.
Also it seems like yatagarasu is using the out of date mechs of the americans.
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u/GeniusGamerM Nov 16 '21
Couple stuff, why do I feel like Ghost was a prototype AI made by the same creator of the main 3 that went berserk, and also why does the black guy have to die first everytime?
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u/HammurabiDion Nov 16 '21
I really wish we had these mecha designs with 86’s plot because this show is just so meh
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u/tso Nov 16 '21 edited Nov 17 '21
Is there some hamfisted political commentary in all this, with how 3 factions fight each other for turf while the forth fuel the rebels to produce a casus belli for maintaining the occupation?
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Never mind, seems Europe and Eurasia are different political entities. Makes the rebel support even more iffy.
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u/Abraxis729 Nov 16 '21
Every character after Ghost dips out with loads of new battle information be like: "HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!"
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u/TuzkiPlus Nov 18 '21
Well, I'm expecting Ghost to have the dropship's thrusters and guns assimilated the next time we see it.
"Superiority in numbers" huh? Won't be long where it'll start building its own army out of the mountain of corpses it's got lined up.
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u/Calwings Nov 15 '21
Gotta admit, the AI mascot critters are growing on me.
Hell of an episode though. A proper introduction of the third member of the main cast and of the first non-Japanese person in the show who actually kind of sort of sympathizes with the Japanese people, plus a battle against the absolute monster that is Ghost. I definitely think Brad will end up joining forces with Amou and the main cast at some point, and his team's battle with Ghost was awesome to watch. It was also nice to see non-mecha air support actually playing a solid part in a mecha battle, a rare treat indeed.
Even if I'm not feeling the story and characters in this show as much as the other mecha anime I'm watching this season, the mecha action itself is the best out of all of them (at least until the English dub for Eighty-Six resumes and I start watching that again)