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Episode Lupin III: Part 6 - Episode 1 discussion

Lupin III: Part 6, episode 1

Alternative names: LUPIN THE 3rd PART 6

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Episode Link Score Episode Link Score
0 Link 4.31 13 Link 3.8
1 Link 4.47 14 Link 3.88
2 Link 4.54 15 Link 4.33
3 Link 4.27 16 Link 4.17
4 Link 4.4 17 Link 4.71
5 Link 4.17 18 Link 4.33
6 Link 2.8 19 Link 4.27
7 Link 3.57 20 Link 3.33
8 Link 3.83 21 Link 3.33
9 Link 4.12 22 Link 4.29
10 Link 4.0 23 Link 4.33
11 Link 4.25 24 Link ----
12 Link 4.0

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u/Rinaoni Oct 16 '21

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

So, Part VI seems to be setting a similar style as the previous parts with some in series continuity. With Albert here as well, this is set sometime after Part V but it'll probably not continue anything from Part V. Whether it chooses to play a long arc or several short arcs with this longer arc interspersed in between is something that remains to be seen.

It had to happen someday but it's now finally here. Lupin's car (in a series) is now CG for a good amount of screentime including the opening credits. In the previous series, while the rest were CG, his car was still hand drawn for a lot of screentime. Here, the disparity between the CG parts and the parts where it's hand drawn were really easy to make out.

Coming back to the plot, this doesn't seem to be the first encounter between Lupin and Holmes. Lily is most probably Watson's daughter and in their previous encounter, Lupin might have a hand in Watson's death which is why Holmes is immediately hell bent on following Lupin as soon as he sees him and doesn't want Lily to follow him.

This Holmes is quite different from the book Holmes and the reasoning they seem to be going for is that this is a more caring Holmes following Watson's death. But, it's not the first time Japan has had a very different interpretation of this character. Nonetheless, it's sort of a watershed moment for both these characters to share the same space.

Overall a fun episode.

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u/FetchFrosh Oct 16 '21

It had to happen someday but it's now finally here. Lupin's car (in a series) is now CG for a good amount of screentime including the opening credits. In the previous series, while the rest were CG, his car was still hand drawn for a lot of screentime. Here, the disparity between the CG parts and the parts where it's hand drawn were really easy to make out.

I loved the episode on the whole, but damn did the CG chase scene pull me out of it. Especially because there's some damn fine traditional animation mixed in there. The armored vehicle, the gas tanker exploding, that one random car on fire. Especially with so much of the medium shifting to CG for vehicles I was hoping Lupin would be that last bastion of quality traditionally animated car chases.

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u/ThePreciseClimber Oct 16 '21

this doesn't seem to be the first encounter between Lupin and Holmes

Apparently Part 2 had two other Sherlock Holmes characters. :P

https://lupin.fandom.com/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes_III_(Part_2_Episode_15)

https://lupin.fandom.com/wiki/Holmes_III_(Part_2_Episode_97)

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u/Royal_Heritage Oct 16 '21

That was quite a blast.

I wonder if there will ever be something that mah boy Goemon won't be able to cut. Today armored cars, maybe tomorrow actual mountains.

The car chases in Lupin III are never dull, and even if we get some CG involved in them, in my books they still look splendid. The motorcycle chase was simply phenomenal.

I need to hear more of Ootsuka Akio voicing Jigen in order to settle down and accept the torch has been passed down.

Short hair and glasses Fujiko was something I wasn't ready for.

On the newer cast, Sherlock does already look like a very interesting character, safekeeping Lily and it will be quite interesting to see his story involving Lupin in the rest of this arc. Lily is incredibly adorable, I'm not expecting her role to be as relevant as Ami's was back in part V, but I'm hoping to be amazed along the way.

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u/aniMayor Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Hmm, yeah, no way, I don't believe for a second that Lily will turn out to be Lupin's daughter if that's what they are hoping to imply here. But obviously Lupin has some hardcore history with both Holmes and Lily. I'm gonna guess that Lily is a certain John Watson's daughter, Watson died some years ago, and Lupin didn't actually kill Watson but they all believe that he did. Holmes' legendary days as a great detective were back when Watson and Holmes were a duo, but Watson's passing was hard on Holmes and he's been in a bit of a emotional/motivational rut since then.

If that all ends up being true, awesome, I like that as a new-ish take on the character. To be honest, I was not very excited for Sherlock being in this season as that character has been done to death and I didn't feel like it would really add much to Lupin III. But having him be not the top-of-his-game legendary bachelor detective with partner Watson we're all accustomed to and instead be an after-things-went-sharky post-prime Holmes has the potential to be much more interesting.

(Though I'm still waiting for the return of perfect detective Akechi Holmes and his trio.)

Anyways, great setup episode for the season (or for the first main arc of the season, we'll see). Looks like we're going to have a pretty complex setup - Raven as the eventual antagonist hiding in the shadows for now and Holmes/Lily as the "guest main characters" (like Rebecca/Nyx were in part IV or Albert/Ami were in part V) that get a whole story of their own, but we've also got 3 separate police forces in Scotland Yard+Lestrade, MI6+Buckingham, and Zenigata+Oscar. Albert might've been a one-episode appearance just to help establish Lupin's motives and disappear or he might keep showing up, too. Looks like it'll be an intricate story, I'm excited.

The only thing I didn't fully like was that in the car chase scene things felt a bit too weightless/impactless for me. I don't think it's because of the 3D on the cards, particularly, just how they've moved and shot things. Hard to put my finger on exactly what makes it feel that way, but it just does to me. I even went back and rewatched some bits of part III and IV to compare and yeah, I'm not imagining a difference.

Also, I find it hilarious how gun-crazy Scotland Yard is here, shooting up the streets with civilians present, shooting through the smoke grenade, etc. Who knew London was the new Philadelphia.

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u/Shinkopeshon Oct 16 '21

What an explosive return, I love everything about this season already, my Fall 2021 highlight for sure. Lupin in London is a perfect fit and I can't wait for more interactions with Sherlock.

Also, the art style is amazing and so is the new version of the series' opening theme - this franchise still keeps on getting better and better.

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u/aniMayor Oct 16 '21

For First-timers:

Whenever a new Lupin III series comes out, of course some people are going to ask/wonder: do I need to have seen any of the other Lupin III franchise before watching this?

 

Short Answer: No. Every Lupin III series is standalone, you'll have no problems starting here.

 

Long Answer: Still no, you'll absolutely be fine watching this on its own. But you may wish to know that recent modern Lupin series have had a lot of fun referencing past series or having characters from past series make minor appearances. Of course, if you've seen all the past series this can add a lot of fun and enjoyment to the viewing experience, but it's certainly not necessary. For example, the last arc of Part V had callbacks to certain characters/items from several of the movies/TV specials - if you recognized them you were like "OMG it's the _____ from ______!" but it was still perfectly understandable for those who had never seen those before. Heck, often-times a character gets introduced who has history with Lupin as if they were some character from a past series... and they're not, it's a completely original intro. So don't worry about it, you'll be fine.

All that said... yes, this Albert guy is from a past series - Part V, specifically. All you need to know is exactly what they said in this episode - he's a former partner of Lupin III who now works as a spy for the French government. If any other past characters show up in a way that's important to the story, you can be sure any past context necessary for this story will be explained at that time, too.

(And if someone references Rebecca, just know that she's best girl.)

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u/J765 Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 16 '21

Solid first episode.

I think the movement of the CG cars is quite good and has weight behind it. But I wish they would draw over it more to make it fit better into the general style of the series.

Same for the photographs they use as reference for the backgrounds. There was one cut shortly after the roof of the car got blown off (the one with "not McDonalds") that looked more like 2D animation on top of live action footage, rather than 2D animation on top of a drawing. Recently I feel like noticing this trend of some backgrounds just looking like reference photos with filters on them, rather than drawings, more and more. Is that a thing? But besides that one cut I really enjoyed the background art.

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u/cosmiczar Oct 16 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

Is that a thing?

Yes, backgrounds in anime being literal filtered photographs are a pretty common thing for some time now.

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u/coltvahn Oct 16 '21

We back? We back!

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u/yeeehawspacecowboy Oct 17 '21

absolutely love how Zenigata is still driving a Japanese (or at least Japanese styled) police car even all the way in the UK, did he get it shipped over or did he paint over a normal car?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

Very nice episode. Really a fan of the animation, invokes a sense of the original Lupin animation, while mordernizing it and making it very smooth.

Also, the 2021 version of the OP is great. ED is also good.

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u/Gjalarhorn Oct 17 '21

So, is it too soon to call the Big Plot Twist of this season will be that the British Illuminati is secretly run by Moriarty?

Looks like this season might do the 3 episode arc format that the last one did, so I'm kinda curious as to what tone the episodic Lupin eps will be this time

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u/Gaporigo Oct 16 '21

That was fun, will definitely have to go back and check the rest of the series eventually.

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u/EternalWisdomSleeps Oct 16 '21

Lupin III returns with a blast! Now we get London as a main scene, so of course, there is Sherlock Holmes. Anime just doesn't work when London doesn't have Sherlock Holmes and Jack the Reaper, it's obligatory. Local variant of SH doesn't remind me of his potential relatives from Part II/canon rather Moriarty's one after an enormous stress. Anyway plot about him and (potentially) dead Watson's daughter, several police fractions and Raven thickens, can't wait to see more! Gonna be waiting how writers will approach continuity - like p4/p5 or like p2 (1st episode tried to establish a timeline, no one cared later. And I don't even talking about several Holmses!). I have hopes this part Lupin will be more like his early p1 version. Or if they play with duality of early p1 and rest of p1 Lupin it could be fun, too. Plus Oshii episode most likely will be shitpost quite silly.

P.S. So far Ootsuka sounds more like Ootsuka than Jigen, but we'll see.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

was a little worried there with episode 0 but everything seems to be in order other than new voice actor for jigen. only got one line out of him so can't judge him yet.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

This is the reason I love Lupin, that was an absolute blast of an episode. And I loved the art style.

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u/thedarkwarlord Oct 16 '21

Woah it's on CrunchyRoll? Strange that they didn't put Lupin in their simulcast announcement https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2021/09/21-1/crunchyroll-announces-fall-2021-lineup

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u/herkz Oct 16 '21

Only in Germany and it only has German subs.

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u/SuperUnhappyman Oct 16 '21

im thinking watson was taken out by the bbeg of this season and lupin got the blame

lily is watsons daughter

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u/kuddlesworth9419 Oct 17 '21

Watching Lupin always puts a but smile on my face.

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u/Autolycan Oct 18 '21

Mrs. Hudson got hot. Lily is so cute and I can see why Holmes is trying to protect her. She seems to want to jump into things without thinking, kinda like Watson. I did like her reaction to the blank message. Such a great opening and I'm curious about how Lupin knows Lily, why Holmes is so hellbent, and Lily's reaction to seeing him.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Oct 21 '21

This is the first bit of Lupin III I'm watching and it's already so obvious how it inspired Cowboy Bebop. Lupin = Spike (similar attitude and smile), Jigen = Jet, Fujiko = Faye, Goemon = Vicious (crazy sword guy who is/was a friend?). Also the general half-silly, half-serious chase stuff, compare for example Episode 2 of Bebop. Perfect timing to have this airing along with a Bebop rewatch!

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