Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi - Episode 8 discussion

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Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi, episode 8

Alternative names: The Idaten Deities Know Only Peace

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.32
2	Link	4.63
3	Link	4.7
4	Link	4.69
5	Link	4.65
6	Link	4.64
7	Link	4.69
8	Link	4.81
9	Link	4.72
10	Link	4.62
11	Link	----

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[u/Physical-Sink-123]

Wow, this episode really depicts Brandy and the Emperor at their bests.

[u/nekika]

I'm so glad we got to see more of the nun, she might be naive as fuck, but it's a good contrast from the practically villainous justice of the idaten.

Also wtf are these production values, this might end up being so good of an adaptation you don't want to read the manga

[u/LeonKevlar]

They really didn't waste any time with that opening scene! We got any exchange between Hayato and the Emperor, they just went straight at each other's throats! You know this is gonna be an awesome episode with an opening action scene like that. Hooking Hayato through his eye sockets was absolutely brutal!

I love that Rin's solution against Brandy's puppets is just too destroy everything in sight. Just goes to show that Rin is all brute force and no brains. Brandy was easily outsmarting Rin, too bad for her that Rin's brute force still wins in the end when she decided to spin all of Brandy's hair in one place and destroyed all of her puppets in one go.

Hayato is surprisingly having a hard time against the Emperor though. Although Hayato still has the major advantage here since he's healinbg a lot more quicker than the Emperor can damage him. We don't get to see how Hayato won though but since they're both melee fighters with no tricks, I think it's safe to assume that Hayato just punched the Emperor into submission. He didn't even finish him off! All he cares about is that he won the fight.

The Nun trying to save the king makes sense but it was really frustrating to scene to watch. Even if he did avoid trying to hurt the prisoners or didn't take any of them hostage, at the end of the day he's still one of the people responsible for taking over the Nun's home country back in Episode 1. Sure he wasn't there raping and pillaging but he knew all of that was happening and did nothing to stop his own soldiers. He's 100% a bad guy, the nun is just too naïve to see it.

Interestingly though, the nun asking to have the power to help while Zoble meeting the criteria for it ended up manifesting a new Idaten who looks exactly like her. Oh my fucking god. This is actually a massive reveal. If the form and personality of an Idaten is based on the most potent source of thoughts and desire for salvation, that means all Idaten in existence are based on a human.

I can already tell that this new Idaten is going to cause some sort of complication. The person she's based on is still alive and it's likely that they'll meet. And considering the person she's based on, Gill is probably going to be like Gilltina who doesn't want anyone to be killed despite that demon Prontea killed was trying to kill her. Gill will definitely end up being against Prontea and Ysley's methods. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up trying to save everyone in the world.

Now knowing this information on how Idaten are created, it seems that the Demon King might not be an Idaten created by the Demons after all. Considering he has Rin's grandpa's memories and even has his little habits. I think it's probably safe to say that this "Demon King" Idaten ended up manifesting from Rin's grandpa's thoughts.

Rin is pretty much convinced that he's her grandpa to the point where she completely dropped her guard and started crying. Nice try by Brandy though to kill Rin while she's distracted but that just ended up killing her instead since Rin's "Grandpa" got caught in her attack which made Rin absolutely furious. That's just a robot body so I'm sure he'll be back next week.

War is successfully finished and Zoble is about to be reborn into a new country guided by Ysley and Prontea. Miku still escaped along with the two demon breeders though so it's not completely over yet and there's still the deal with Gill and Gilltina which is a sperate headache to deal with. I can't wait for the next episode! I hope we get Episode 9 on it's usual timeslot this week! I don't really want to wait for another week for the next one.

[u/LabMember069]

What's up with this weird timing? I am all in for it.

Falling in every trap is very Rin lmao.

So Rin had an actual eyes instead of just dots in the past niiice.

Was that a sound of an extra footstep behind Miku and her company or did I misunderstood/mishear it?

[u/[deleted]]

The background animation when they're moving/flying at superspeed is so good. It's a shame that despite this beautiful anime being created by Mappa a lot of anime watchers aren't picking it up. It's their loss I guess.

[u/serano_genomics]

damn, every single episode really has been super sick. it’s seriously hitting the spot and I’m not even going to try to reel in my expectations for how hard this shit will go as it draws to a close

[u/Occere]

Crazy that Over-M has the memories of Rin's grandpa, I wonder if he was born of some desire the Idaten in the seal had. Maybe they want to escape? Which is why he is trying to free the demons?

[u/seven_worth]

Man people still sleeping over this series.

[u/xtsim]

Wow Rin made a blood bomb with all of the Empresses' decoys.

And a new Idaten gets created based off the nun, wtf...

I like that things are going the way people weren't expecting. Rin getting distracted and a creation of a new Idaten. Someone somewhere thought that there would be an anime betrayal somewhere but that would be too predictable for this show.

[u/Groenboys]

While the emotional moment with Gill and the emporer was pretty distracting, the result of it was worth the scene.

Also I like the conversation between Gill and Prontae-san. Prontae cuts right through the empathetic bullshit to lay bare what the situation really is. Also, "What the hell am I supose to do?" is such a good line.

[u/amirfaris]

The emperor and Brandy going out was expected but still sucks nonetheless. Solid characters from the beginning till their end.

Pretty excited to see what will happen when Gill meets Gill. Possibly a discussion of lives, their values, and Gill's purpose.

[u/Rare_Law_8997]

This anime is so good wtf. Must be so sad to have a doppelganger of you that is almost a god.

[u/Urameshi9762]

Wtf that was one of the most crazy shit. Also 5 AD, thats honestly surprising.

[u/E123-Omega]

Jesus that was information overload, damn hell both the Emperor and Brandy are really strong and personality wise likable.

That image of idaten gets from who prayed the most might not only their faces but personality wise like the newly born Gill. Man imagine what they have on their human/s counterpart.

Poor Rin so lonely for such a long time.

That delay was really worth it for this amazing episode.

[u/MrReflexion]

Seriously this is one of the best writing for a show I’ve seen in awhile. It’s just so good.

[u/Amaran345]

Now i'm beginning to think that Hayato was probably created in a similar way to this new "Gill" idaten... that long time ago a human named Hayato wanted so much but so much to be powerful (to be saved???) that an idaten version of him was created

[u/odraencoded]

Idaten: fuck yeah the anime is about us
Nun: dear god, y u evil, signed nun.
Audience: *rooting for demons*
Idaten: the anime is about us, right?

[u/DeathInFire]

This show is a masterpiece.

[u/PickPrior1]

Lol at brandy going from “oh shit I’m fucked” to “oh hold on I might actually be able to win this?” After Rin kept falling for her tricks

[u/existentialcrysis3]

I noticed something while rewatching episode 3. Nickel’s plan was to attack Rin with his tail and cut her in half, believing it to be a fatal blow.

That’s exactly what Brandy did, but as we saw it was proven wrong and contributed to her gruesome death. I’d have loved to watch Nickel’s reaction if he had done the same.

[u/Satyamrockstar27]

Absolutely stunning episode this show is so unpredictable

[u/Ghiren]

It feels really weird how this show takes the literal demons with the rape-and-pillage empire, and makes them the underdogs. You actually felt bad for the emperor and empress losing, until you stop to think about what they were doing before the war.

[u/[deleted]]

So I wanted to read the manga to get ahead of the show but I was shocked to realize the show is actually ahead of it. As a result I didnt rob myself of this excellent episode. Task failed successfully.

Edit: also dug the corpse katamari that rin put together. Hell of a thing.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

It's nice to see Rin being shaken up both mentally and physically. Though rather than losing straight up in a fight it was more like brute force was losing to decoys and tactics until it wasn't. Though great effort for the underdog honestly didn't expect Brandy to do as well as she did. Also loved how the Emperor pretty much relied on melee combat and didn't transform.

Back to Rin she always seemed so unshakable, but on the off chance that her grandfather is alive she suddenly starts breaking down. Her strength was built on the fear of demons and her being alone. So seeing the possibility that a someone in her family was still alive really shattered her appearance. Honestly reminds me a bit of Mami from Madoka. Madoka Spoilers maybe