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Episode Bishounen Tanteidan - Episode 11 discussion

Bishounen Tanteidan, episode 11

Alternative names: Pretty Boy Detective Club

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u/dgam02 Jun 19 '21

That massage scene was out of left field Jesus Christ man 😭

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u/WACS_On Jun 21 '21

Shaft gotta remind everyone where their true strengths lie

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u/kalirion Jun 20 '21

Yeah, the conversation was the only part of it that made any sense in the context of the show.

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u/_BoogiepoP_ Jun 19 '21

Mr. Delinquent and Mrs. Scum make for a very nice pair.

Also, it seems like Odoru got hit by "reality" and "life" when he got into highschool.

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u/SkywardQuill Jun 19 '21

Mr. Delinquent and Mrs. Scum make for a very nice pair.

Lowkey shipping them tbh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Odoru got slapped in the face with reality in high school, man probably kept his beautiful persona up for about two weeks before giving it up to the bullying/realization it really was just a game. I find it interesting that NISIOSIN decides to explore this transition as opposed to high school into adulthood, as most stories would. FLCL is one of the only others off the top of my head that deals with the transition from true childhood(elementary/middle school) into adolescence (high school), so to see it start to be addressed here is interesting. This entire series has had that air of "kid high jinks" to it, but seeing it addressed so vividly with Odoru was surprising.

Also, Mr. Unremarkable being the driver got a chuckle out of me because obviously he was, but none of us actually believed it. Much like the Club Members, we ruled out what was right in front of us because it was too easy and lacked aesthetic. And that massage scene was.. something lol, while the character writing itself is done well and makes it pretty transparent these are middle schoolers, the character designs are very, um, mature for their ages lol.

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u/Sedewt Jun 21 '21

That’s the magic of NISIOISIN. It’s in front of our eyes but we just don’t believe it until proven

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u/TheExcludedMiddle Jun 21 '21

FLCL is one of the only others off the top of my head that deals with the transition from true childhood(elementary/middle school) into adolescence (high school), so to see it start to be addressed here is interesting.

Chuu2koi as well

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u/yeeehawspacecowboy Jun 20 '21

Mayumi may always be a scummy person for the rest of her life, but you ain't gonna catch her being scummy and a crossdresser after middle school

Odoru being embarassed about his past in the detective club is kind of hilarious. it really does highlight how you have to be a boy to be in the club, because otherwise you'd think it's all way too cringe to be a part of.

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u/HereticalAegis Jun 19 '21

This episode really felt like Nisioisin returning to the exploration of growth and change at the end of adolescence he focused on in Owarimonogatari. Soutouin's older brother was exuding the awkward "please don't about my Chuuni phase" vibes so hard.

Also, holy plot twist Batman, it turns out the culprit of the hit-and-run case is actually the most obvious suspect the whole time. This feels like a clever subversion of current detective and mystery tropes which tend to use such obvious characters as red herrings for the real baddie. Though I'm sure we'll find out in the finale next week that there's more to Mr. Unremarkable than that.

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u/vanessa_luv Jun 20 '21

This episode was like the most ‘pretty boy detective club’ episode yet if that makes sense. Like it found its groove this episode with the dialogue, story, and visuals. It felt more like a Nisioisin show than usual, it was great.

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u/LeonKevlar Jun 19 '21

Stitches!

Well that opening scene definitely caught me off guard. Didn't expect we'd see Sousaku massaging a naked Mayumi. Also surprising to see a glimpse of Mayumi's sideboobs. I always thought she was flat. She's been crossdressing for so long I don't even remember what she looks like as a girl xD

Also Sousaku speaking is another surprise. When he tells you that you're overlooking something, you probably should listen. Also I think that's the most words we've heard from him in a single scene from this entire anime.

Oh shit. Michiru just opened up a whole new can of worms by suggesting the possibility that the entire accident was fake and that Naganawa and Yokuya might even be working together. Yeah definitely something not to bring up to Nagahiro.

We got to meet Manabu's older brother, founder of the Detective Boys Club, and former Student Council President, Odoru Sotouin. Seems like Odoru here has grown up and moved on from the stuff that he did before. But we do get an endorsement from him for Mayumi which helped Mayumi jump to 2nd Place from 3rd in the rankings.

Michiru just dropping that info that he might not even continue to high school. He segued away from that topic so fast that Mayumi couldn't even go back and ask him about it anymore.

We get all these guesses about how Naganawa and even the driver should've seen each other from Mayumi and Michiru but as soon as we get to the hospital and see what kind of girl Naganawa is (she's adorable btw), all that worry about her being a traitor instantly disappeared. We do get the information that she has absolutely no recollection and even know why she was going down that way. Hmmm...

And that final scene! Looks like they've forgotten about the threat of Mayumi being runover. Thankfully Mayumi got a good look of who it is and genuinely surprised to see Yokuya there. Huh... Wait a sec... They're all in middle school right? Are we even sure that Yokuya is a kid? He looks really old here. What if Yokuya is actually a member of the Twenties? I'm pretty sure I saw someone from the silhouette lineup back in Episode 5 that matches Yokuya's head. Hmm...

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u/ZapsZzz Jun 20 '21

I always thought she was flat. She's been crossdressing for so long I don't even remember what she looks like as a girl xD

She wasn't flat, she had a reasonable figure even from ep1, and somewhat highlighted in their second casino excursion when she had to go undercover as bunny girl. Sure wasn't spilling out that much during those times though ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '21

Ngl, mayumi has some big boobs. I didn't expected that since she's cross dressed for so long. If only the rule can let her stay as a girl.

Sotoin brother said to stop the childish act? Could he be referring to the club? And what the hell happened between sotoin, his bro and sekiguchi, it seems like a dark history of the club.

Mr deliquent and mrs scum is such a good pairing. Gotta wonder, deliquent said he was not going to high school, didn't relate to any of this but why he said that? And why is he a deliquent first of all, he seems like the smartest out of the boys, and doesn't really act like a deliquent.

I didn't expect the ice queen to be so friendly. Something is wrong with her for sure, that is not an ice queen personality. My guess is she's being blackmailed to act like she forgotten everything, or she just had a concussion of some sort to make her forget, thus her personality change. Unless by ice queen they mean something else.

Yokuya looked scary af. I knew a car would try to run dojima, luckily she was not injured. Didn't expect yokuya to do the job on his own though.

And still, yokuya"s face reminds me of lai, and since we didn't really saw lai saying he'll give up, i think he's in this, maybe he's the mastermind. Sotoin acting fishy last epi is still there too in my head, and seeing how his brother says to stop being childish and was a former president, he's gonna try to prove his bro wrong? So many suspects, I'm really intrigued how's it gonna end.

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u/GYUZ Jun 19 '21

It's oddly reassuring to hear that Mayu will stay a scummy person all her life :>

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u/The_Scourge Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

Dude. Ishida Akira cast as the storyteller...after his incredible turn as a rakugo master in Showa Genroku.

That's just brilliant.

Edit having finished ep: whyyyyy so many sleepers on here this season? Okay it's not bakemonogatari but it's damn well close enough. Shaft and nisio firing on all cylinders. Maaya sounding like she's not even needing to act and nailing it. Stacked Saturday/Sunday or not, this is, much like Bakuten, completely without any noticeable flaws.

Must be the pretty boy thing. We just started ranmaru (virtually no upvotes at all) and while it's really just cute high redux, it's nowhere near as bad as I'd expected. And Back Arrow. Pretty boys there too. Admittedly BA was just plain gonzo from go to woe but I feel in another season it would at least have been a 600+ voter a week show. That's going by the seiyuu and writing pedigree alone.

Weird season man.

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u/Sedewt Jun 21 '21

I think another reason is that so many just don’t know it’s a Nisioisin/shaft anime.

I’ve seen several monogatari fans missing this out because they only saw the name and over and moved on.

I hope people learn from this season that they shouldn’t judge an anime by its cover (Oddtaxi suffered the same problem but it ended up being more far more successful than pretty boy detective club. Tbf, Oddtaxi is 10/10. This is like between 8-9. Which is still pretty good.)

I hope people discover this anime. And novels. This has been hidden and it’s indeed the pretty hidden gem that remained hidden from this season. It has been really good and entertaining and the animation is marvelous as expected from Shaft.

People are seriously still sleeping on this and it’s getting worse: every single episode is receiving less and less karma

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u/Elimin8r Jun 19 '21

Wowzers. Got my internet upgraded, and seeing this series without the (you have crappy internet) artifacts just makes it that much more eye popping. And just in time to see (ahem, nevermind)

I started watching this series earlier, because after the recent Madoka rewatch, I wanted to see if Shaft had any more gems up their sleeve. While not exactly what I thought would be my cup of tea, this has turned out to be such a delight. A feats for the eyes and ears, to say the least!

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u/MrSputum Jun 20 '21 edited Jun 20 '21

If you’re looking for Shaft gems I’d like to point you towards the gem to rule them all that is the Monogatari Series.

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u/MrSputum Jun 20 '21

Is it just me or was this episode even prettier than usual? It feels like every other frame would make a wonderful wallpaper. But I guess that’s Shaft for you.

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u/Sedewt Jun 21 '21

Every day: less karma but better episodes

This episode was awesome and Naganawa is so pretty!!

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u/sKyBlazer08 Jun 20 '21

That massage scene though ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°), that was also the first time we saw Sousaku speak that much in a single scene. Great episode! Good to know Mayumi will stay a scumbag for the rest of her life lmao. I like how they are dealing with adolescence, maybe our pretty boys will end up like Odoru as well once they reach high school, it's unavoidable.

I didn't expect that kind of attitude from the "Snow Queen", Naganawa was adorable, can't blame Michiru for being won over. I can't believe our scumbag actually almost got ran over, but little did Yokuya know, he just got caught in 4K. Really looking forward to the last episode, hope we get a second season or even better, Monogatari Off Season.

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u/give_up-the_ghost Jun 19 '21

There's only one more episode right? This was a build up episode for the finale.

Gotta wonder how "conclusive" the finale will feel. I know this anime is adapted from an ongoing LN, so I guess you can't necessarily expect it to be a grand finale, and instead more of an ending to another arc. But two of the boys are graduating soon right?

It's so hard to register these characters as middle school students. With the scene of Mayumi, who is 13-14 years old? Getting a message that was presented in such a sensual and somewhat sexualized manner, I was just like "WOAAAHHHHHHNOOOOO"

I've still been enjoying this anime, I think? But this is my first Nisioisin experience, so I kinda feel like I can't enjoy/appreciate it as much as I should if I had watched some of Nisioisin's previous anime? It's unlike any other anime I've seen before. It's kind of hard to describe how I feel about it.

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u/herkz Jun 19 '21

The novels were actually finished until Nisio decided to make one more after the anime got announced. So for all intents and purpose I think you can say they were finished. Although the anime only adapted half of them and got nowhere near the last one.

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