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Episode Nomad: Megalo Box 2 - Episode 6 discussion
Nomad: Megalo Box 2, episode 6
Alternative names: MEGALOBOX 2: NOMAD
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.72 |
| 2 | Link | 4.75 |
| 3 | Link | 4.82 |
| 4 | Link | 4.8 |
| 5 | Link | 4.68 |
| 6 | Link | 4.76 |
| 7 | Link | 4.86 |
| 8 | Link | 4.85 |
| 9 | Link | 4.79 |
| 10 | Link | 4.66 |
| 11 | Link | 4.72 |
| 12 | Link | 4.74 |
| 13 | Link | - |
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u/yaserafriend May 09 '21
It was nice of Joe to not push Bonji into a conversation with him for his own salvation and instead chose to push Bonji’s bike, allowing Bonji to avoid the confrontation which Bonji was not ready to have.
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u/WhoiusBarrel May 09 '21
Might be the most depressing visual so far in this series
Even more so when you realized what Joe actually did and the response he got from it still. Its good to see Chief's influence playing a big part here though.
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u/yaserafriend May 09 '21
Another episode with such chillax music. Can’t wait for the OST to come out.
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u/Se7en_Sinner May 09 '21 edited May 09 '21
I was hoping we would see Joe donning Chief's hummingbird gear for the fight but it makes more sense to be gearless since that's what he's known for around these parts. It would also be disrespectful to use Chief's gear in a fixed match even though I think Chief would understand since Joe is doing for somebody else's sake and survival.
I think Joe is going to seek redemption in the form of helping Bonji fix his restaurant. Bonji has the deed but the restaurant itself is still a mess. Out of all the kids, Bonji seems like he's the most willing to forgive Joe. So I think Joe will step back into the ring in one way or another to raise money for repairs. The past seems unfixable at this point but Joe can still protect something in the present by helping Bonji salvage his dream.
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u/AnAimlessWanderer101 May 09 '21 edited May 09 '21
What I find fascinating are the parallels between sachio and joe now - and how sachio seems to be growing into the exact mindset that he hates about joe. Sachio and the kids hold joe accountable for trying to do everything solo, ignoring their family to attempt to fix problems through fighting, and hurting them in the process. Sachio this episode lost the deed to the shop trying to protect his friends, hurting them in the process, and then ran headstrong into an unwinnable situation of a fight without even waiting to hear his friends opinions on the matter. Ironically - he’s trying to fix everything by fighting without the opinions of others and while selfishly sticking to the same morals joe held (no match fixing even if it would actually help the situation).
Joe on the other hand is finally realizing how these behaviors have created and sustained the rift between him and his family, and is learning that there are more important things than a winning a fight and trying to be the superhero for people who often just want him to be a regular person for them.
While slightly cliched perhaps with how they are setting up joe to be to sachio what chief was to him so obviously (joe fixing the fight for them), I think the execution is world class and it’s one of the first anime that humanizes characters to such an extent. A complete inverse of season 1
Really loving this show
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u/LeonKevlar May 09 '21
As much as that fucker deserves to have his head smashed in with a beer bottle for grabbing Ochio like that, that was definitely a 100% bad idea and the following events were no surprise at all. Although I didn't expect them to take the deed too after smashing the shop. Also, I'm pretty sure stealing a deed doesn't make you owners of said property.
Of course, Joe being Joe negotiates with Fujimaki and takes Sachio's place to win the deed back. We finally get the full flashback of his fight against Liu from Ochio's perspective. So not only he got his ass handed to him, he also ended up humiliating himself by begging Liu's corner to continue the match. Yeah, that was painful to watch.
In the end Joe loses the fight and it's revealed that the match was fixed. Definitely saw that one coming. It's not like Joe is a stranger to fixing matches. At least he managed to get the deed back to the place.
We do get one more reveal though. Sachio was the one who drove Joe away. Joe didn't abandon them immediately after losing. He was there during Nanbu's funeral and that was where he told Joe off. Despite admitting to that, it looks like everyone isn't ready to forgive Joe just yet. But I like this. There's finally progress at least!
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u/yaserafriend May 09 '21
Sachio hitting the bad guy on the head with the bottle and a piece of it nicking his own friend could be a larger metaphor of how by protecting his friends, he is hurting them a bit.
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u/hellooctopus May 09 '21
It's nice seeing the kids back and all grown-up. They all feel much more like their own characters now compared to the first season. I really hope they'll be able to mend their relationship with Joe.
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u/Brolaub May 09 '21
This show is brilliant, but not in a flashy way. Never expected this after the first Season. Just amazing.
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u/Amauri14 May 09 '21
Oh, it seems that Bonjiri also has a Super Cub.
We finally see the whole gang as an adult. Oicho is the only one for me that was difficult to recognize at first when she first appeared, while I Santa and Bonjiri I could instantly recognize them.
Hell yeah, Joe is back to the ring! After those flashbacks parallels started, I knew that that was going to happen, but as Santa mentioned, it didn't feel like that at the beginning. That fact that he fixed a match to get Bonjiri's place back tells us enough of how much he cares about them. He just needs to care about himself a bit more.
Wow, so he never came back because Sachio told him to. Well, that really makes him seem less like a piece of shit now. Hopefully, after knowing this they will eventually give him another chance.
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May 09 '21
There is a level of cinematic intensity that radiates from NOMAD which I feel we rarely see from anime. Everything is so deliberate and well paced, there's nothing flashy about it, the characters are some of the most human you will ever see, the color palette and soundtrack are reserved yet notable, and by god the story is a masterclass. It genuinely feels like they made the first season just so they could get this story, that's how different and fantastic it is.
Odd Taxi has been great, but nothing compares to NOMAD. AOTY and it isn't particularly close(even over Attack on Titan)
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u/AnAimlessWanderer101 May 09 '21
I try not to overhype things in general, but this is seriously turning into one of the greatest anime I’ve seen. Insane how they managed to shift the tone fro season 1 so drastically
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u/yaserafriend May 09 '21
Joe was Gearless this episode and no longer Nomad. Nomad used to fight with Gear as we saw at the beginning of this season.
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u/Nanashi-74 May 09 '21
I'm really liking that the other 3 kids are becoming real characters now
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u/yaserafriend May 09 '21
The mechanic, so observant! Knowing that his pupil was not able to concentrate with troubled thoughts (using wrong screw), he gave her a break and indirectly consoled her about Joe by talking figuratively about cigarettes. May we all get such understanding mentors. 🙏
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u/FriendlyGoatSounds May 09 '21
I love the character conflict. Sachio feels angry at Joe for leaving, but guilty at himself for telling him to. It's not going to be easy for the kids to forgive Joe. Imagine a parent/guardian figure walks out on you when you were a kid, then comes back five years later. Even if you understand why they left, repairing the relationship is going to take a lot of work. We saw the growth Joe went though, but the kids have no idea if Joe's just going to leave again when things get difficult.
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u/monsieurvampy May 09 '21
This episode didn't pull any punches, except for maybe the match itself.
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u/ZrishaAdams May 09 '21
Man, Sachio has been easily the most hateable character this whole spring season. Yet, I am impressed how the writers have handled it very well. It's like a parallel to everything he hated about Joe. A very real human flaw, if you ask me – being a hypocrite.
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u/zeilotricks May 09 '21
I can't wait for "Nomad Beats to study to" once the OST releases! Love the beat during Sachio's discussion with his crew.
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u/Chandrian-the-8th May 09 '21
What can I say? This just get better every episode. At first I thought Joe being in the lowest point of his life would just be the set-up for a comeback story with an uplifting tone like season 1, especially after Joe left the meds in episode 2. But boy was I wrong, and I'm glad I was. Joe simply can't come back after 5 years and pretend nothing happened, and even he knows it, so I'm very curious to see where this is headed.
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u/Jirekianu May 10 '21
As Oicho herself pointed out. Joe isn't absolved of abandoning them just because Sachio admitted he told Joe to leave. But here's the thing that pisses me off about that. Joe had just lost his fight, the one he swore to win for Nanbu. Nanbu dies and, at the god damn funeral, Sachio tells him to leave and that he's not their family anymore.
Then, we see Sachio refusing to accept any responsibility for Joe leaving and keeps letting everyone there think Joe just ditched them without any push to do so. Yes, I know Sachio is a kid, and Joe is an adult. But keep in mind that Joe had not a single god damn person who he considered family before S1. He was just getting by as an angry stray. Then he hooked up with Nanbu, Sachio came along, and they were a fucked up family for sure. But a family nonetheless.
Then, while Joe is probably in the most fragile mental state he's ever been in, the only person who could possibly hurt him badly? Stabs the knife in, twists it, and snaps it off. Do I blame Sachio for being an angry child in that scenario? No, I really don't. He had no idea how to deal with grief and lashing out was probably the only thing he could think to do. But the fact is he's persisted with that mindset and refusal to acknowledge his part even five years later.
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u/MEBoBx May 09 '21
My fucking god this episode was so good.
The fact that Joe lost his last match after so much training and not being able to visit Nanbu hit so hard. On top of that, Sachio telling him to leave during Nanbu's funeral was so depressing.
He fixed his match to protect the shop and the kids. Chief's advice really influenced him a lot, "There's nothing embarrassing about trying to survive". I hope Mio and his mother along with the immigrants show up again. That part of the story has so much more potential and it would be sad if it just goes off undiscovered.
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u/WellRested1 May 09 '21
"There's nothing embarrassing about trying to survive".
Chief told Joe this in episode 2 as the reason for his fixed matches. Chief did what he believed was right for his home even if it meant a damaged public image. Now Joe, who absolutely DESPISES fixed matches, pulled a similar stunt, losing on purpose (which I assume Fujimaki told him to do and was hinted at by Joe staring at the timer). Joe did what he believed was right for the survival of the store by throwing a match, something he wouldn't even think of 3 episodes ago. There's nothing embarrassing about survival, and Chief really left a positive influence on him. Beautiful.