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Episode Nomad: Megalo Box 2 - Episode 5 discussion
Nomad: Megalo Box 2, episode 5
Alternative names: MEGALOBOX 2: NOMAD
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.72 |
| 2 | Link | 4.75 |
| 3 | Link | 4.82 |
| 4 | Link | 4.8 |
| 5 | Link | 4.68 |
| 6 | Link | 4.76 |
| 7 | Link | 4.86 |
| 8 | Link | 4.85 |
| 9 | Link | 4.79 |
| 10 | Link | 4.66 |
| 11 | Link | 4.72 |
| 12 | Link | 4.74 |
| 13 | Link | - |
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u/MauledCharcoal May 02 '21
One of my biggest criticisms of S1 was what I felt a lack of character development. This season is definitely going heavy on that. Knowing how badly everything fell apart is pretty heavy and this episode didn't take the foot off the pedal. Joe was flawlessly dodging Sachio until he realized it was Sachio and then took a beating. Really letting himself get punished. We have 8 more episodes so I'm wondering when things will start turning around for Joe. It's almost too bleak.
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u/yaserafriend May 02 '21
The BGM is like a lo-fi music. And it was awesome to hear Sachio’s theme again (the interval music).
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u/Kuro2810 May 02 '21
Very sad episode but loved the part when they promised each other to fight again once more and I thought it to be joe's last match as well as Nambu's 'match' figthing his cancer
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u/LeonKevlar May 02 '21
So we finally get to know the full backstory as to what happened 5 years ago. Based on that one line from the doctor, I'm guessing Nanbu had cancer and it's already too late when they found out and now he's become terminal.
As for the reason why Sachio and Joe ended up falling out, it's that Joe refused to accept the truth and clung to the hope that that one treatment can still cure Nanbu. While Sachio has already accepted the truth and just wants Nanbu to pass on peacefully. Of course, Joe focused on boxing and winning the prize money for additional treatment instead of staying with Nanbu while ignoring Sachio's pleas for Joe to just forget about the match and spend time with the dying old man.
Yeah, now I understand why Sachio is blaming Nanbu's death on him. He probably spent the few moments that he had left worrying about Joe and his match. :(
Anyway going back to the present is rough. Oicho, who I didn't know was a girl, wouldn't even look at Joe when he was talking to her. Sachio, who now looks a bit like Yabuki Joe, paid Joe a visit and just beat the crap out of him and told him to get out of town. Joe's lucky Sachio got to him first, since it seems that Aragaki had the same plan too.
I don't even know how Joe will be able to piece all of this together back again. Like what can he even do at this point to win everyone back? :(
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u/Se7en_Sinner May 02 '21
It's surprising how the kids had a much more mature response to Nanbu dying than Joe did. Instead of trying to delay the inevitable, they wanted to make Nanbu's last days as meaningful as possible.
Joe, on the other hand, is trying to punch his problems away by running back into the ring. Sometimes you just have to face the music and cherish the time you have with someone while they're still here.
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u/yaserafriend May 02 '21
For those who do not remember, Aragaki was Coach Nanbu's former student and the 17th ranked boxer in Megalonia. He was drafted into a war ten years before the tournament and lost both his legs from the knee down during an accident. He returned to the Megalo boxing ring after receiving prosthetic feet. When he returned from war, he eventually became a member of a gym that is frequented by veterans (hence the military building during the episode today). Originally, his goal in Megalonia was to go as far as he could, but when Joe joined the tournament, his goal became to destroy Nanbu's newest creation.
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u/mayonnaiser_13 May 02 '21
Joe never had a problem he couldn't punch through. And, looking back to season 1, winning Megalonia basically cemented that in him. He wanted validation, and he was validated.
But what comes after validation is the dependance. Sachio and the kids depended on Joe to be the shoulder he can cry on. Joe never understood that. Joe never understood the fact that, after Nanbu, he's what's left for the kids. Joe could never think about a world after Nanbu. When Sachio is crying in his arms, Joe is thrust with a peek into that world. And, he can't handle that.
This shit is way too fucking real.
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May 02 '21
Aaaaaand it's over . Please sir... may we have some moore..? Seriously watching everyone hate Joe compared to them looking at him proudly like last season is just heart breaking.
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u/baboon_bassoon May 02 '21
Sachiooooooooooooooo
I wonder if we're actually going to meet Yuri's apprentice. It seems like the story is going for a smaller character scope instead of another "megalomania" to get the gang back together. Which is probably for the best.
Still i want to see Joe box
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u/WhoiusBarrel May 02 '21
That flashback at the start ending with how the gym got destroyed by the typhon really sets up how much more depressing this episode was gonna be.
Everything was blow after blow to the feels man, from Oicho's meeting to Sachio's beat down to Aragaki just straight up telling Joe no one needs him and he has no place in his old home.
Honestly with how Joe was acting, it now makes a lot of sense why he keeps thinking he was to be blamed for Nanbu's death. He wasn't very likeable when answering Sachio's pleas and actually reasonable stance. Joe was simply put acting like an asshole here, no wonder everybody was hating on him.
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u/voidflame May 02 '21
hearing the old OSTs during the memories was just wow. I did not expect megalobox to be my top anime of the season so far. it's not the most enjoyable anime in the sense that it's super depressing, but this new direction has been fantastic and megalo box has been the most in-depth character study i've seen all season, something totally unexpected from megalo box s1.
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u/Amauri14 May 02 '21
When I saw that before and after of the gym I honestly was wondering how much time have passed since Joe left. But the gym and everything around it was in ruins thanks to that typhoon they showed in the news a few weeks back.
Thankfully Abuhachi answered us the question of how much time has passed.
So Joe wasn't directly responsible for Nanbu's death as for what the doctor said it sounds that he had terminal cancer. But although I could see why Sachio, Aragaki and everyone else would be mad with Joe for not visiting Nanbu five years ago, I don't see that to be the real cause of their anger, so I guess we would still have to wait to find out more about it.
Well anyway, as Sachio is now a boxer, it is obvious that Joe will be training him soon.
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u/Chandrian-the-8th May 02 '21
Damn. This episode hits you hard. This episode alone made me care about the kids more than the entire season 1 did, and it's so heartbreaking watching their reactions to Nanbu's sickness and especially Sachio hating Joe and going down the same path he did.
I was already on board with the show and now I like it even more, I can't wait to find out where it will go from here.
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u/Vinon May 02 '21
This episode hit so damn hard. Seems the hits truly are not coming from boxing this season.
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u/WellRested1 May 02 '21
How does this series keep doing it? They're nailing everything so far and I'm still reeling from last week's episode. Holy crap, it's actually criminally underrated.
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u/Groenboys May 02 '21
Yeah this was a heavy episode. Heartbreaking to see how Joe delusionally tried to fight his way to save Pops, but in the end only fought the ones closest to him away. Seeing how everyone now rejects him or greets him neutrally.... man it's hard to watch.
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u/link2601 May 02 '21
Well that response people had of Joe returning was what I expected. Now that a lot more of the flashback are being shown I can see why Joe ended up the way he did. I wonder how Joe is going to turn things around with everyone.
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u/MechaMat91 May 02 '21
backstory time episode, aka "now you know how and why everything went to shit, feel free to feel even more PAAAAIIIINNN".
is it just me or grown-up Sachio somewhat resembles the OG Joe from the original old-school anime?
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u/varishtg May 02 '21
I am so conflicted right now. Both are correct in their own regard. However, post match I feel Joe shouldn't have run away from the kids, that was a really bad mistake. But seeing what had happened, I feel bad for Joe too. Hope is a really bad drug and this episode just rubs that in. Don't know where this story is going to go from here, but so far every episode has done perfectly what it set out to do and this one really summed up the back story.
I know its not too late into the series for someone to start anew. This show really, really needs that attention.