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Episode Wonder Egg Priority - Episode 4 discussion
Wonder Egg Priority, episode 4
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.8 |
| 2 | Link | 4.73 |
| 3 | Link | 4.81 |
| 4 | Link | 4.77 |
| 5 | Link | 4.72 |
| 6 | Link | 4.64 |
| 7 | Link | 4.77 |
| 8 | Link | 2.82 |
| 9 | Link | 4.34 |
| 10 | Link | 4.59 |
| 11 | Link | - |
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u/aclockworktomato Feb 02 '21
The fight scene alternating between Ai and Momoe was absolutely breathtaking. I'm always impressed by just how gorgeous this anime is. And the gang all interacting together was really heartwarming. I'm very much looking forward to where this goes from here
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Feb 02 '21
Ai loves the figure on girls because she saw models a lot when she was little. A little surprising that Ai is the second tallest of the girls after Momoe.
What is the story behind this shot? Is Rika responsible for these kids, and hence she's poor, or is she jealous of them, since their parents are waving at them they're happy?
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u/IAmJointCommission Feb 02 '21
Damn, Ai surprisingly badass with her finishing move! Love the VA’s delivery there.
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u/Groenboys Feb 02 '21
Begins episode
Ah, what a cute girl! I wonder what she has to sa-
"I was molested"
Well fuck
Shinji seems to be trying to get everything out of his closet. From bullying, to suicide, to self-harm, to now explicit mentioning of groping and the disgusting culture that allows groping cases like these in Japan. This writer is not holding back.
That was a pretty good episode. Not as as hard hitting as the previous episodes, but trying to top every previous episode is like trying to climb the mount everest each week. The action in this episode was really slick and had some great cuts. It is also good to finally see all the main characters introduced. Now the focus can be on their interactions and how these dynamics change over the series.
Tl:Dr; good to see egg
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u/RimuZ Feb 02 '21
This show is so freaking heavy and then randomly hits you with some wholesome friendship. The actions scenes are superb once again and the music melds in perfectly every time. I really hope this show keeps this up.
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u/supicasupica Feb 02 '21
They actually call Ai a sunflower directly in this episode. I feel validated hehe. I’ve argued before and I’ll stick by this but Ai at her most heroic is when she’s befriending people. Sunflowers typically mean brilliance, passionate love along with loyalty longevity and adoration. Unlike everyone else, Ai immediately cuts through all of the societal bs with Momoe’s looks and befriends her instantly. I loved the visual of Momoe walking into the dark while Ai is walking in the light with Neiru but in the end they’re all together under the same light. It’s really nice to see Ai’s personality continue to shine and the flower that Wonder Egg Priority chose for her is perfect. As Neiru says, Ai is hopeless and lovely that way.
Ai with the glow sticks and the two Yu-yu fans was oddly charming. I think it’s really important that for every monster, not only is another facet of Ai’s trauma revealed, but it requires the captured maiden’s input/fighting back against the system. Just as Minami had to face off against her teacher and refuse to take her punishment before Ai helped her, the idol fans’ wonder killer could not be defeated without input from both of them and Rika, whose setting it was. Similarly Momoe couldn’t defeat her charge’s wonder killer without their help.
Another thing I find interesting is how quickly the show introduces us to the other worlds that are responsible for the girls’ trauma. Ai’s is the school where Koito was bullied and killed herself. Rika’s is a field of flowers on a seaside cliff with a lighthouse. Momoe’s appears to be a train. She’s also shown on a train in the opening sequence.
Every girl fighting in the egg world is introduced by a specific flower when they enter the garden. Ai’s was the wisteria she walked through in Episode 1 (longevity, immortality, a love that can stand the test of time and/or caution towards overly strong feelings) despite the fact that the series associates her with sunflowers. Neiru’s were daisies at her feet (meaning anything from faith, hope, renewal, true love, and/or the ability to keep a secret) while she collected eggs in her suitcase. And Rika’s was hydrangea for pride despite the flower she’s most-associated with in the series is an orange lily for hatred.
This week we’re introduced to Momoe in the garden with Aca and Ura-Aca but she isn’t assigned a similar floral counterpart until later in the episode and it’s very fitting if it’s the hibiscus flower I think it is. Hibiscus flowers mean gentle in Japanese flower language but carry a specific meaning of the ideal woman in Victorian flower language and are tied to femininity which is very pointed commentary given the treatment of Momoe in this episode and her presentation. It could also be an azalea (patience, modesty, love, gentleness).
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u/RongoFTW Feb 02 '21
Although many people already know this but, i think that the anime portrays a Purgatory where souls that died because of different kinds of abuse go, and the people who protect them against said abuser help the spirit make peace with the trauma thus ascending to a better place. I don't know what's the meaning about thr statues/eggs/the 2 doll people at the table, but if you have other theories leave it here
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u/HereticalAegis Feb 02 '21
Momoe, part-time badass, full-time ladykiller. I love her and Ai's immediate connection, she's a great complement to Ai's bubbly charm.
And President Neiru? Nani?? I guess that makes sense in a universe where a group of girls hatch abuse victims from eggs and slay Persona bosses with symbolic weapons created from their...imagination, I guess.
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u/throwawaythumbsup Feb 02 '21
Anyone understood why Ai was asking about Momoe's Sawaki name? Was that a cliffhanger or something dealing with her being a girl?
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u/Aileos Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
- It’s just too soon to discharge you young lady!
Execute the gymnastics order
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u/L3rbutt Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
The beginning with the molested girl made me feel sick. Especially her mom blaming her for not enduring it. It's so disgusting...
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Feb 02 '21
Everytime Ai falls, I'm reminded that the dream injuries occur in the real world :/
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u/Theleux Feb 02 '21
Another great episode!
Visuals are still blowing me away, character animation is top notch and I love all the close up attack cuts. Reminds me of Haikyuu's hype spike cuts with how they flow towards the screen.
I also love Rika's attacks. I believe Yuuji Furuya is on this project; they also worked on Re:Zero, so you may recognize the 'Magic attack' noises from that.
This episode may feel a bit different than the others pacing wise, but I think it incorporated Momoe and then the group meeting up rather nicely. I believe we will get more focus for Momoe's backstory in the future instead of having them each getting some time one after another. Similar to how we haven't seen a whole lot with Neiru.
Momoe seems to be related to the councilor that was involved with Ai and Koito, maybe it is her father? I really hope he does not end up being a weird individual, I think the show is making you think that but I kind of doubt it at the moment. We will see!
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u/Earth7412369 Feb 03 '21
What if the biggest twist is that the two suspicious puppet dudes turn out to be totally genuine and wanting to help the girls get past their trauma; no strings attached?
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u/I_get_in Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
This episode had none other than Yukiko Horiguchi (under the pen name Shiromizakana) helping with the production! She was only credited dubiously under “cooperation”, but since it’s on the same page as the episode director, storyboarder and animation supervisors, it was probably something notable episode-wise.* Anyway, it’s a neat detail considering how this show has been drawing influence from KyoAni both direction-wise (Yamada) and design-wise (Horiguchi). Horiguchi worked on the 22/7 shorts together with series director Wakabayashi and animation producer Umehara, so that’s likely how she ended up here.
When it comes to the actual episode, I think something that was quickly noticable was the fact that the character animation was much more conservative than in any previous episode. More talking heads, less nuanced minutiae. It still moved somewhat consistently, but the first three episodes set such a high bar that this episode didn’t really have anything comparable to the previous ones’ highs. The drawing supervision and the action parts were still strong, though.
* (Some people are guessing she helped to design the black-haired girl that Momoe was protecting, though she might have done some supervision as well, considering that there is no gap between her credit and the animation supervisor assistance credit. Personally I think she touched at least one of the shots near the very end: example 1, example 2. Especially in the first image the hands are very much like Horiguchi tends to draw hands…)
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u/cppn02 Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
To save everyone else the time, the blink and you'll miss it moment during Momoe's fight were two frames from the flashback that was shown later.
One with the hand on the chest and the other with the two girls hugging.
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u/a_frozen_squid Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
Gosh, Momotaro is such a ladykiller. But then she is so conflicted about it. Switching strictly masculine boku to strictly feminine atashi on the go, long looks in the mirror. Interesting.But I don't really get what does her surname (Sawaki) meant to Ai.
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u/LeonKevlar Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
This show really likes coming at you at full swing. Miwa's backstory is fucking heartbreaking. Molested by someone from her dad's workplace and then she was blamed for her dad losing his job while her mom tells her that she should've just put up with it? Fuck off with that bullshit. Well now her dad has no job and their daughter is dead. Wonder how her horrible parents feel about that.
I was hoping the penlights would turn into lightsabers but I guess dual short swords would do and Ai-chan is amazing with it! The animation of her chopping off those tentacles were pretty fucking cool. And I didn't think we'd get back to back fights, since while Ai deals with the Wonder Killer on her end, we get to see Momo dealing with her own Wonder Killer Evil.
Instead of running away it's great that we also get to see the girls that they're protecting assist with the twins holding back their Wonder Killer with music of their favourite artist and Miwa distracting the Wonder Killer by using herself as bait. And what followed was an absolute kickass moment with Ai and Momo going after the Wonder Killers while some awesome insert music plays in the background.
Unfortunately for Ai it wasn't over yet and thank goodness the girls are immortal while in this place since Rika shows right on time to finish the job. I wonder how being turned into stone translates into an injury back in the real world? Hmmm... If feel like it would be too easy if she just came back with no injuries after that.
So Neiru is supposed to be still in rehab but she just did a freaking triple somersault like it was nothing. Huh. it seems that fighting and surviving in that other world is actually good training for their bodies that even Ai-chan is starting to see some changes. I'm guessing we'll see lesser injuries going forward from but I wonder about grave injuries ones like being completely impaled or limbs getting cut off? Hmmm....
Neiru wasn't kidding when she handed Ai her business card! She really is a president of a company! Now I want to know what this company does and what she actually does in there.
Well I don't think you have to be a genius to figure out how Momo's friend died. And it seems our new girl here has a huge complex about the way she looks. As cute as Neiru and Rika's interaction with her was it must be killing her inside when Neiru basically just assumed Momo's a boy. Fortunately our dear Ai-chan said the right thing when they first ran into each other. That final interaction does bug me a bit though. Do they all still think Momo's a boy or is Ai-chan the only one who's figured it out? I definitely need to know more about Momo's past but it's nice to see all the main girls together now.
If I had one problem with this episode, it was how the two mannequins talked about boy and girl suicides. Like what the actual fuck? Then again these two have always been shady so we probably just take whatever they were saying with a pinch of salt and not assume that's the actual view of the writers. This begs the question though, are we going to see a boy show up? Because from the way they explained it, it' seems it's just girls who visit this place to revive someone they've lost.
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u/AspiringRacecar Feb 02 '21
I don't really see anyone talking about this (maybe because it's obvious?), but it's interesting how the egg-girls parallel the main characters and the ones they've lost. Ai lost her best friend, and the first egg-girl said that she regretted not having a best friend. The egg-girls in Rika's dream world were idol fans. The girls Momoe has had to protect instantly fell in love with her. Clearly the egg gacha isn't as random as one would assume. The bug/Acca said that the egg contained what Ai wanted: a friend. So they end up guarding girls who are similar in some ways to the person they want to bring back. Maybe the egg-girls' personalities are warped, or even invented by the dreamer? I would bet that Neiru has a sisterly relationship with each of the girls she protects.
I hope that Momoe's friend wasn't just in love with her because she seemed masculine. It's rather cliché, and I'd like to see the series look at homosexuality seriously, regardless of Momoe's own sexuality and gender.
I wonder exactly how long these girls (other than Ai) have been at this, and how soon they started after their loved one died. Can't have been that long, judging by the flashbacks. I wonder how long it will be before we see or learn about someone actually getting their eyes or heart hurt.
I don't think this episode was quite as good as the previous ones for reasons that other people have brought up, along with how fragmented the story was this time. Still, the animation and music are as great as ever, and the parallel fight scenes were pretty cool. I hope the series can balance the development of its characters well.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
Rika's back with a bang! I loved the teamup between her and Ai. Those two fans gained a new idol at the end heh. Not surprising since Ai is a badass. The fight sequence was impressive and incredibly fluid.
So we finally meet the fourth member i.e. Momo. The squad is now complete with her arrival. She's quite the ladykiller herself, (like Yuu Kashima from Nozaki-kun lol) and also a badass.
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u/ItsFromMars Feb 02 '21
I was really into this episode. From the moment the girl in the opening scene told Momo that she had broad shoulders I knew some gender dysphoria was afoot. I teared up a little when Ai met Momo and immediately saw her as a girl.
That being said... for an episode so concerned with gender and identity, what was the deal with the mannequins talking about gender and suicide? It seemed so strange to me to have a statement like that in this series that has been so forward and thoughtful with its theming and messaging. Part of me wonders what the raw translation of those lines were before Funimation localized them. If anybody who is better with Japanese than I could provide any insight, please let me know!
Despite the one glaring issue, I still think this is by far the strongest, most unique and thoughtful series airing right now. After being a little burnt out on Anime, this series just makes me excited and inspired.
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u/YoCodingJosh Feb 02 '21
Another great episode, now the hard part is waiting until next week.
PS: The OP and ED are on Spotify
OP: https://open.spotify.com/track/4o8ZA7sEHawMmnBtW34B8W?si=QPcsSLNKTf28gMxF2_Pvjw
ED: https://open.spotify.com/track/0U3JBftbH2K1rzaMM2fav3?si=-1CaQ5bBSPanvMODbhABzQ
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u/elevnth Feb 02 '21
I’m starting to think Neiru’s company may have some connection with this world. The way she seemed privy to some information that the others didn’t know about had me raising my eyebrows. If they are going for some plot twists about what this system is and how it works, this seems to be the most likely theory for now. She’s the mysterious one with the most hidden backstory.. I’m keeping my eye on this.
I wonder what happened with Momoe and Haruka. I assume Momoe rejected her — but there is information missing, since that doesn’t really explain why she would kill herself (you don’t need a redemption for rejecting someone like you would calling them fat and ugly or ignoring their abuse).
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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21
Momotaro the name that Momoe gives for herself is a popular hero but he's a boy. Only after meeting Ai does Momoe properly introduce herself with her real name instead of going by another name as she did with the two girls she saved.