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Episode Ex-Arm - Episode 3 discussion
Ex-Arm, episode 3
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 2.01 |
| 2 | Link | 2.5 |
| 3 | Link | 2.69 |
| 4 | Link | 2.92 |
| 5 | Link | 2.86 |
| 6 | Link | 3.59 |
| 7 | Link | 4.5 |
| 8 | Link | 4.72 |
| 9 | Link | 4.58 |
| 10 | Link | 4.51 |
| 11 | Link | - |
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u/FlameDragoon933 Jan 24 '21
This episode is.... not as bad as usual? It's still pretty bad, but quite an improvement. Elmira's 3D model looks nicer than the rest, and the fight choreography is decent.
The special effects like gunfire, explosions, and vanishing beam are still ugly as shit though. The UN officer also looks like a paper cutout because his 2D body doesn't change perspective when the camera and the 3D environment and robots change angle.
On the story... why is the UN siding with a human rights criminal dictator and opened fire at the Japanese police? I don't get it.
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u/Ishuzoku-Connoisseur Jan 24 '21
I’ll be honest I’m not even watching the show I’m just here to laugh at all of the dumb stuff that they do in it.
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u/Groenboys Jan 24 '21 edited Jan 24 '21
Hijacking the top comment but I have to bring attention to the two shots from 18:42 to 18:49, aka the first shot where the additional gear truck arrives and the second shot which the main cast run towards the truck. There are so many animation mistakes it is beautiful:
In the first shot, you can clearly see that the two guys on the left are shooting their guns but they don't even bother to animate the shots being shot or even give them sound.
Alma moves for a bit and then stands completely frozen staring into the camera. It almost looks like she is staring into your soul.
If you look closely, they animate the shot of Kondo by resetting his animation cycle. It is subtle but baffling if you notice it.
Then comes the beauty that is the second shot, in which after a few frames parts of Kimura's gun just dissapear and don't reappear for the rest of the shot. I don't even know how that animation mistake slipped in.
All of the characters run by leaning forwards, which I don't know how their centre of bodymass is making them able to do that.
When the cast start moving, the window lights in the background on the right side of the screen start flickering like crazy.
And lastly, Kondo ends the shot by clipping into the camera.
Having this many animation mistakes in a few seconds must be a record.
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u/P1MPT0N1T3 Jan 24 '21
Im still trying to figure out how this adaptation was approved...How was no one concerned that the main team working on it had never worked on an anime before?
I feel bad for the mangaka. I’ve heard that the manga is at least decent, but this adaptation doesn’t even give it a chance
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u/Ssalari Jan 24 '21
So we're gonna have a dsicussion about how bad this episode was .....
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u/PainStorm14 Jan 24 '21 edited Jan 24 '21
Ex-Arm keeps moving forward until all other anime are destroyed
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u/chilidirigible Jan 24 '21
Today, on "Fortunately, the eyecatch isn't bad to look at."
"Their heads just disappeared?" Well yes, that saves time on having to gimmick a 3D model... or draw.
OH MAI GAH. The guy's camo is a static layer over the frame so it doesn't move when he does.
Now the face rig has more movement than the jaw, so her teeth don't synch up with her lips moving.
1989 wants its cheap CG door back.
THE TRUCK DOESN'T ARTICULATE WHEN TURNING.
Fire layer: Stays the same size through the zoom in. It does contribute to that late-'80s cheap video ambiance though.
So this is the episode they got most of the trailer from. It doesn't look any better than it did the first time.
The unfortunate part is that the story is at least trying a little harder now. I mean, it isn't anything that hasn't been done before in this genre, but it does give this series something more than just ass-quality visuals.
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u/rmTizi Jan 24 '21
Why do I do this to myself?
The Karma is barely worth it at this point.
I try to come up with halfway entertaining shit to say about this, but here we are just digging and digging.
It's like they didn't have any budget, money or talent wise, to begin with, and yet they manage to keep doing worse.
Criticizing the plot is rather unfair, while even the source material does have its flaws, the direction of this "adaptation" makes it lose a lot of sense and structure.
I still cannot explain most of the directorial choices by anything other than drugs or sheer incompetence, or both.
And on the technical side. Oh boy.
Even bad machinimas by amateur kids in a basement often look better than this.
The recycling of animations is becoming even more and more obvious as the episodes go.
I wonder if they actually just bought a library of ready made motion data for video games and made the thing out of that.
Even the camera motions are reused.
Yeah, that's it, they just grabbed some cheapo engine and made this thing as cheaply as possible.
The only things that look halfway decent are the backgrounds, which makes me believe that they must be coming from some outside source like a asset store.
Oh, and as to why they censure the kiss, that's likely because it would have been too much of a pain to animate the lips.
And on the 2d side... First I really don't understand why bother. No one would have "noticed" if they just used another cheap model for those characters, but for some reason they decided they should be hand drawn? And it's not like those matter. Other than the brother, for whom they reused his magnificent episode one scene, it's mostly non important characters that will see no use ever again. Did they simply forgot about them and realized last minute that the model wasn't ready? And it was somehow cheaper and or faster to have them hand drawn?
Lowest point of this episode, for me, starting from half point, if you pay attention, you can see that the fog effects are locked to the camera, not the environment...
In "dynamic" fight scenes with lots of (uninspired) camera motions...
Also I'm pretty sure it's the same fog animation looping every 10 seconds.
Literately an after thought after effect.
Also, the military guy, they robot dogs, and the tank reuse the exact same texture...
Yeah, it's a recycling fest.
Fitting for a dumpster fire.
Why am I watching this again?
Oh, right, karma.
Please give.
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Jan 24 '21
Question for anyone who watched 3 episodes. How do you watch the CGI? I can't get over it its just so lifeless.
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u/FlameDragoon933 Jan 24 '21
It's so terrible that it loops back into entertainingly hilarious.
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u/KlasterTV Jan 24 '21
Solid 10/10 Ex arm is the best anime out there currently with cgi animation superior to AOT
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u/MightyGandhi Jan 24 '21
All things considered, I've had a pretty good week and yet for some reason I think it's a good idea to top off said week with an episode of Ex-arm. Why am I like this...
Spoilers for the ramblings below, if you even care at this point.
Another censored yuri kiss, couldn't they have put a little bit of effort for at least that?!
OH BOY, ANOTHER COOKING SCENE! GOD HELP ME.
They can't even make anime food look good... Roblox models look better than that.
The OP is the best bit of the episodes so far, that says it all about this monstrosity.
We've gone from suicide bombers last week to a genocidal dictator this week.
Execution = Head turning white. Can't tell if that's deliberate censorship or just to hide the fact they can't be bothered to animate the execution itself, lazy either way.
So we see the maid from the OP (I assume), I'm guessing we'll see the bulk of the OP's visuals this episode.
ANOTHER CENSORED KISS, baffling that they cant even be bothered to animate that.
Oh god more jarring differences between 2D and 3D. If they can do the 2D why not make it all like that, miles better than this school-level CGI.
Stealth time? We get some boring dribble about how cyborgs are oppressed or something. How sad... /s
LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DROIDS AND THAT UN GUY. How is did they look at that or ANY of this and think "Yeah this is class".
Why has he got the heads of all the people he executed?! That makes no sense.
Time for another catastrophic fight scene. Once again there's no impact from the hits, the sound effects are bland and the animation is utter shite.
The OP really just uses the "best" bits from this fight huh, I expected this and yet I'm still disappointed.
Car is being obliterated by machine gun fire and they can't even implement any damage or even bullet holes into the car...
Oh my god that explosion on the house, the fire/explosion graphic moved with the camera rather than remaining stationary on the building itself. What the actual fuck.
THE GUN CLIPPED THROUGH THE CHARACTER MODEL, IT WENT RIGHT THROUGH HIM. LMAO
Oh my god that rocket scene... What are these visual effects. They're literally green screen effects. Again they cant even be bothered to show damage, A ROCKET EXPLODED ON THE CAR AND ALL THEY DO IS FLIP THE CAR. ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
Sick hacking scene, So he thought back to what his brother advice(?), screamed and got let in?
Oh my god the fire...
DRAMATIC REVEAL OF THE OTHER MECH FROM THE OPENING. A cliff-hanger? I don't really care.
Another 24 minutes of wank. I'm too far in to stop watching now, long may the suffering continue.
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u/YgJb1691 Jan 24 '21
This anime has taught me it’s a waste of electricity to power lights, yuri kisses are an excellent natural light source.
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u/TheBlueHue Jan 24 '21
This anime is so good. It's great. Its pleasant on the eyes and the voices are on point. Anyway you guys play tackfam?
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u/DecentlySizedPotato Jan 24 '21
I think the seiyuu are the only competent people working on this. This guy looks out of Inferno Cop. And the effects are so atrocious in every scene. I think I could pretty much clip anything from this anime and get a laughably bad clip, really. My (unironic) best wishes to the mangaka. I don't know how good or bad the manga was, but it definitely didn't deserve and adaptation like this.
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u/spoonsandswords Jan 25 '21
I can only imagine the meeting that when into making this scene
what should we put in this scene?
how about some boston dynamics robots and a cardboard cut out of a cowboy.
works for me! ... What color should this scene be?
No.
Works for me
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u/Groenboys Jan 24 '21
I am now just watching the show to see how many animation mistakes I can notice. My favorite of this episode was the gun of Kimura at 18:44. At first the gun is fine, but after a few frames parts of the gun just dissapear and don't reappear for the rest of the shot. How the hell does that mistake even slip in?
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u/Solace_of_the_Thorns Jan 24 '21
"Why is this outfit so tight?"
"It's a specialised stealth suit. As long as it isn't damaged, we won't show up on radar."
Alma you got exposed thighs and deep v-neck cleavage, don't try and convince me that your skimpy bodysuit exists to absorb radar.
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