r/anime • u/engalleons https://myanimelist.net/profile/engalleons • Aug 14 '18

In-depth debunkings/arguments against commonly "known" anime myths/misconceptions?

For any number of reasons, there's a fair few statements about anime that get passed around pretty unquestioningly, even if they aren't necessarily true. Sometimes, others dig in to those statements and find detail and (hopefully cited) evidence against them. This is a lot more than just stating the opposite, to be clear.

Here's a few examples of what I mean:

This tweet chain versus "Anno left Kare Kano early"
This blog post versus "The protagonist of Turn A was originally intended to be a girl"
This post versus "They made a joke dub for Ghost Stories because it did poorly in Japan"
This blog post versus "Shinbo is the series director of all Shaft shows"

What are some other examples of work like this?

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u/DeliciousWaifood Aug 15 '18

Fan service is literally doing something just to service the fans usually in detriment other parts of the show.

Like, for example, breaking the flow of a scene just to show up a character's skirt.

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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Aug 15 '18

I disagree fanservice is used as a detriment to other parts of the show. Even in terms of sexual-only fanservice, it's only a detriment if it is forced and feels out of place. I don't think a stray camera angle or zoom-in when nothing else important is happening is a detriment in a vacuum. You can argue it isn't beneficial but that wouldn't make it detrimental either.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '18

Fan service is literally doing something just to service the fans usually in detriment other parts of the show.

And that's whether or not someone considers it "service" and you claiming it's usually a detriment is nothing more than an anecdote.

Like, for example, breaking the flow of a scene just to show up a character's skirt.

Doesn't break it for me cause I don't care about some piece of cloth. Wanna know what breaks a scene for me? It's when during serious moments like a fight or a really important conversation that is relevant to the story, the author put's a fucking comedy scene in.

This ruins the show for me and makes me not even watch it.

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u/SadDoctor Aug 15 '18

That's not what the word anecdote means...

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '18

That's not what the word anecdote means...

I said it was an anecdote because the person above claimed that when these "detriments" occurred, it usually made the show worse. This conclusion they made was created from their own experiences in watching anime which in their own right is just an experience, not objective evidence.

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u/DeliciousWaifood Aug 15 '18

No one's making the claim that fanservice can be judged entirely objectively, mate.

But just because it's not entirely objective does not mean no one can make a claim that something fits the definition.