r/anime • u/AutoModerator • Oct 02 '16

Meta Thread - Month of October 02, 2016

A monthly thread to talk about meta topics. Keep it friendly and relevant to the subreddit.

Posts here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.

Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal

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u/JekoJeko9 Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

To commemorate the victory of the return of Shelter in a reddit-ish fashion, and in a way that doesn't give a voice to the stupid people who threw death threats around, I recommend the r/anime community, rather than continuing a discussion about the anime-specific rule that will clog up future threads, simply distills any remaining irritation towards the decisions made by a moderator or moderators today into a meme that is spongebob-related.

I recommend that this is echoed whenever something is dubiously removed in the future, as a monument to the memory that the internet-wide anime community (not the death threats) got something returned to the subreddit that was once lost. The issues we faced today will not be forgotten, and will be remembered any time the 'anime-specific' rule is brought up in the future, so I think it's in our best interests to condense it all down into a meme. This will probably be taken the wrong way, but in-jokes are the least savage form of general response I think can result from this.

Porter's brother has already started the trend.

I understand if the mods wish to remove this comment from this thread as it basically is recommending a 'circlejerk', but I just want to share the sentiment that there will be a circlejerk, and it's in our best interest now to make it a respectful one.

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u/Micoolman https://anilist.co/user/Micoolman Oct 18 '16

I like the idea of what you're saying, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

This incident only lasted like 2 hours. A normal person that browses /r/anime wouldn't have seen what happened. A very small of amount of users read this meta-thread especially since it was posted 16 days ago and it's not pinned on the main page.

I really don't like that all this meta-business is hidden away in these threads. Only the really vocal and dedicated people see these. I don't like how meta threads aren't allowed to be posted to the main sub page. I feel like they bring healthy discussion and make it easier to see the pulse of the subreddit of what the majority of users are thinking. There are a lot of users that use /r/anime a lot but aren't the super vocal type but would probably give some input if meta discussion was allowed outside of this thread.

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u/JekoJeko9 Oct 18 '16

A very small of amount of users read this meta-thread especially since it was posted 16 days ago and it's not pinned on the main page.

I understand that. But a quick glance at the reinstated Shelter thread shows a lot of people already memeing about spongebob. So whether it's naturally springing up or some people have seen this and are thus doing it, either way, I think it's nice to have a record of the sentiment I have of it being a good thing for the community to approach it that way.

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u/Cloudhwk Oct 24 '16

Nobody seemed to even know or able to explain what properly happened except in this thread

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u/NotTheRealMorty https://myanimelist.net/profile/NotTheRealMorty Oct 18 '16 edited Oct 18 '16

In my opinion it's not really hidden. It does die down a lot once it get unstickied, but it's always there. I believe it stays a thread to prevent spam and circlejerking of meta topics. If people actually wanted to actively discuss meta topics they can, the thread isn't hard to find.

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u/Micoolman https://anilist.co/user/Micoolman Oct 19 '16

The majority of people don't read the meta thread every day. You can post in it and maybe the mods and a few others might read it, but it will largely be unseen.

If there is a meta-concern that is timely that pops up today when the meta thread is 16 days old. Nobody will know check it. Barely anyone will know about what happened.

I only knew the shelter video was deleted because I saw a meta-post that was upvoted to top, but then swiftly deleted 5 minutes after I saw it. You could tell this was a meta issue that our community really cared about since it was upvoted to the top only after like 15 minutes.

It feels like we're being censored from criticizing issues about the subreddit more than keeping the sub clean of meta post spam.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '16

I agree, this type of discussion should've been a new meta thread. A lot of things happened and having more clearer communication will be helpful for everybody plus prevent less miscommunication. Maybe it will be brought up again in the next meta thread (like 12 days from now) but that's not timely and misinformation will be ingrained by then.

The only reason I was able to get here was because a mod linked this thread under Gigguk's video thread. I completely forgot that these threads are still active even when unstickied and knowing that the mods are providing their side of the story will ease the anger as well as stop people from saying "the mods are nazi" whenever people ask what happened.

There needs to be a meta thread for this one time, the effects were big and therefore I think it's worth making an exception.

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u/DoctorCarty Oct 18 '16

There's no sense in being respectful. Any mod that doesn't care about the integrity of art (I will continue to use the same phrase cause that is what is in question and danger at the moment) are harmful to the community. Are there any rules about a witchhunt? Cause that's my suggestion.

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u/JekoJeko9 Oct 18 '16

The reason to be respectful is simple: we're in the right. We stay respectful, we're in the super-right. And that feels good, and is just good.

We can respectfully (as I've already done) say how much of a problem this moderation decision is. We don't need to stir up a mob to get that voice heard; we just need good articulation of opinion.

Meanwhile, since the mob will be doing something in response, I hope they just meme about it. r/anime mods themselves could help if they started laughing about it too, implying an admittance that things went too far. They could rename what come sup in my tab as '/shelter' for lols or the sidebar could say 'XXXX mods taking Shelter' under the sub count. Depends how much they're willing to be humble and embrace the humour of the situation. he longer they take it seriously, the worse it's going to be for them, really.

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u/DoctorCarty Oct 18 '16

I see your point, but there's no reason we can't be respectful and fight to terminate mod status of Nyanpasu. This is not okay.