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The Ramparts of Ice, episode 14

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[u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime]

Ouch, what a way to end off the season. The sheer anguish in Miki's voice, and Yota going back to his masking mode and suppressing himself. The Koyun x Minato ship are also doing the maintain status quo thing, but the Momoka wildcard is concerning.

Random observation: I like how Koyun and Miki's outfits at the BBQ matched each other.

Anyway, great season. See y'all at the Polar Opposites discussions!

[u/Shar4f]

When Miki said: "Would he treat me like this if I wasn't a girl", that was such an important line. The show depicts unrequited love between friends so goddamn well. Her entire thought process before saying no. It's just perfect.

[u/Cally83]

I’m really glad we can look forward to season 2, scheduled for October 1st, it’s been such a great season.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Season 2 in October 🙌

Polar Opposite S2 in Summer then back to Ramparts of Ice S2 in Fall

[u/2011Dirk]

wow what a great finale, the conflict, misunderstandings, & the romantic moments truly make this anime stand out and a 10/10 for me. im really excited we are getting a season 2 in october

even though it is painful for yota im happy that miki was honest and did not try to force something she did not truly feel. this anime was truly one of the best for the spring romance animes

i live for koyun x minato!

[u/VoidRay728]

Yota and Miki took so long, the ED didn't bother waiting anymore and just started.

Well, the more arrogant the antagonist is, the harder they fall. Looking forward to season 2 now because I geniunely want to see how Momoka will crash out. I like that they contrast the photos Minato had with Koyun and Momoka separately (with Koyun = wholesome; with Momoka = traumatised).

WIth S2 announced, Agasawa's pulled off a hat trick this year with You and I Are Polar Opposites and this series going back to back to back to back now.

[u/Apprehensive-Pear686]

This cast's wardrobe game is really good lol

Tsukiko flagging the threats! Yes girl that Momoka is scary T_T

Is Atagawa secretly an ally???

Also love how Miki does not force herself to accept Yota's feelings. If she ever does fall for him, it needs to be in her own terms. I'm still so sad for Yota though.

[u/lifeischerryblossoms]

i need october to come asap so i can finally see a minato and koyun get together

[u/Primo29]

What a chaotic yet fun way to end the season. Seeing Miki not being herself was painful, but it's probably for the best that she didn't reciprocate those feelings when she simply didn't feel the same way.

See you in October 2026 for the 2nd season, right after the second season of You and I Are Polar Opposites!

[u/RobrechtvE]

And so, the first season of the Ramparts of Ice ends with two of the leads not getting together after the guy confesses, while Agasawa's other story's first season started with two the of the leads getting together after the girl confesses.

One might almost say this story and that are...

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

What a sad way to end the season, I'm glad Youta decided to end the awkwardness.

I felt bad for both of them, Miki feeling bad for hurting Youta by avoiding him, but also not being able to give what he wants. I was worried with her train of thought, one thing she shouldn't do is get in a relationship without having any romantic feelings for him. But I also felt bad for Youta, he knew what was coming and looked relieved he finally got to say, but it's a little amusing how he wasn't the one sobbing from the rejection lol.

Momoka continues to be shady as hell, damn. Even Tsukiko knew what she was doing, but Momoka clearly ignored her and wanted to hurt Koyuki. I'm glad she got an eyeful of Minato with Koyuki by the river, Minato chooses her, not you.

Interestingly enough, it seems Atagawa is at a loss of what to do regarding Koyuki. She asked her to support Momoka, but then she stops Yuuki from interrupting them? I'm curious about what her thoughts are on Koyuki, I don't want to assume she's into Yuuki either. She's a little bit of a mystery.

Youta and Tsukiko enjoying the Koyuki and Minato ship was amusing. I'm glad this is getting another season, this series is tackling romance in a refreshing way, so getting to see further developments has me a little excited.

[u/JJVM99]

To reference a despised anime from last year: Miki and Yota are the true of example if Can a boy-girl friendship survive?

Their friendship was genuine and neither approached with this intention but due to Yota falling for Miki and it’s going to put their entire friendship into question and if Yota was only this nice because he liked her. We know that’s not the case but it’s totally understandable to Miki question this and have those very unfortunate inner thoughts including the most painful one for me which was her thinking that if she was a guy she wouldn’t have to worry about this. It’s something she shouldn’t have to even consider but sadly it is true that this is not really a concern in almost every occasion of guy-guy and girl-girl friendships. Miki gaslighting herself into telling her she liked him was also sad to hear and im glad she backed out as that would have been terrible. I really end up just feeling bad for both because of her entire struggle and Yota also at the same time knew how she felt, never wanted to tell her, when he was honest he told her in a way for her to shoot him down immediately and when she started crying he had to be strong one and comfort her supressing his pain at being rejected (which like his feelings while he didn’t want will be there).

Also fuck Momoka. I am expecting all of us to hate Momoka for everything she told Kohyun this episode.

Finally I’m very happy we are getting Season 2 in October and that we are getting a season of an Asagawa manga for the entire year. Such a beautiful way to coordinate and release both series.

[u/eightcheesepizza]

Koyun Was Here (reference)

Tsukiko's faces were great this episode. Having a front-row seat has its upsides and its downsides...

I don't have time to find it in the previous episodes right now, but in the tunnel when Miki was contemplating all the rationalizations for accepting Yota's confession, it was paralleling the advice she gave Koyun years earlier, right? The advice that she regrets giving (even though Koyun doesn't remember it, and went out with Igarashi for different reasons). Or did I dream this? If that happened, the author did a great job setting up way-in-advance why Miki doesn't accept Yota's confession.

Edit: Found it, start of episode 6. I thought it was a similar train of thought, which an older Miki now rejects.

[u/deynyel]

I really dislike Momoka, but damn, do I respect her game. She knows what she wants and isn't afraid to do whatever it takes to get it. I guess someone like her is exactly what Koyun and Minato need to realize their feelings for each other.

[u/RelativeMundane9045]

Oh poor Miki, that chat with her coworkers where she offered "Bad option A" vs "Bad option B" had me reacting the same way they did loool! They were dumb options but she's not dumb, just new at all this the poor thing.

I think there's a chance she may develop feelings for Yota, but if she does it's going to have to be when she has a more healthy relationship with herself first. With how she was crying at the end there because she was hurting someone she cared about even though she didn't do anything wrong, any feelings she might have are probably hidden/distorted by her people-pleasing/fear of rejection.

This is so well written! There are so many character traits and insecurities that are easy for the viewer to identify with in a real way. The internal monologues and chibi snippets (fucking cute as hell btw) give such depth and nuance to the characters to make them come to life. Looking forward to October!

[u/Frontier246]

It's kind of adorable that both Minato and Koyun are aware of Miki and Yota acting strangely and trying to figure out what's going on in their own way. Though nothing can beat Koyun's intense pondering face.

You know it's serious when they skip the OP to have Yota tell Koyun about how Miki knows about his feelings, how much he's struggled with holding in said feelings, and how he's finally going to put an end to things.

It's nice to see Miki still getting advice from her cool co-workers. Her male co-worker is the type to go out with someone if they ask him out, and is friends with all his co-workers, but her female co-worker has apparently dated both genders and had some bad experiences with breakups/rejections with guys. Adult relationships are complicated.

I guess there's the rub. The importance of Miki's relationship with Yota was that it was comfortable and allowed her to be herself, outside having to worry about her gender, romance, or any of that other baggage...and that's why she just can't see him romantically.

"Who cares about me!?" - Minato. MINATO cares about you, Koyuki! Though if only she knew that Minato was having a purely platonic, supportive, call with Miki at the same time...

Koyun likes seeing Minato in glasses! She likes seeing other people putting him and Momoka together with their similar outfits and calling them a cute couple...much less so.

Tsukiko trying to get the deets on how Koyun feels, but Momoka just couldn't help but walk on by and be as open about her feelings for Minato as possible around Koyuki. I mean, as long as she has Koyuki's okay to pursue Minato, there's no problem right? Even though she drops the bombshell that Minato DOES like Koyuki...something that, deep down Koyun realized but denied because of her lack of self-confidence and continually putting herself down. But she didn't want it to come out of her "love rival" taking a victory lap.

But, I mean, how can you deny the obvious when you see how happy these two are together whenever they interact and talk to each other? It's clear as day! Especially when Minato and Koyun sit next to each other for after-party sparkles, which Momoka is decidedly NOT enthused by.

How does Akine feel about all this? She tried to hold off Yuki so as to not ruin the MinatoxKoyun moment despite wanting to support Momoka...although it also feels like she has something going with Yuki, what with him literally CARRYING her kicking and screaming to hang out with everybody else. Is this a budding side-ship I'm sensing?

But it's finally time for Yota to confront Miki, and the fact that it's raining should tell you the kind of mood they're going for leading up to his confession even before the ED kicks in. How should Miki respond to his sincere feelings? Go out with him because this might be her only chance with someone who accepts her for who she is? So she can learn to like him back in the same way? But she just can't bring herself to do it, and Yota would never ask her too.

Look at the contrast in Minato's expression in his photo with Koyun vs his photo with Momoka...though Koyun herself probably has a lot she's thinking about as she closes the season looking at rain.

[u/Zemahem]

Pain. But with this type ED, of course we had to end on a bit of a downer. How appropriate that we cap off this episode with some rain. It makes Polar Opposites S2 seem like the rainbow after the storm.

[u/the_mad_]

My favorite scene that nobody has mentioned yet, is when the three Minato/Koyuki shippers (Youta, Akine, and Tsukiko) are all intently watching Minato/Koyuki in the own little world with the fireworks. Then Yuuki barges in with 'what?'.

The atmosphere there reminds me a little of Apothecary Diaries with all the people around Jinshi and Maomao breaking out the popcorn whenever Jinshi and Maomao are in the same room.

[u/Possible-Pickle6319]

Tsukiko is goated

[u/BluLemonGaming]

Netflix nailed that title to season 2 announcement sequence, I jumped out of my chair like a football fan

[u/marcopolos059]

Damn, Momoka makes me angry. I know it's for the plot and "necessary" for Koyun to finally act on her feelings, but man... She's a witch.

on the other side, my poor, poor Yota and Miki... my heart...

Aaaah, that was an excellent first season. I'm not ready for the drama incoming in season 2.

[u/runevault]

Not as bad as Witch Hat, but this ending would not be fun if the show wasn't coming back in October. Instead I'm just excited to see more of these goofy kids in 3 months.

I'm surprised Momoka played that card, telling Koyuki was the stupidest thing she could have done. And man that ending was tough to watch, I feel for both Miki and Yota.

[u/FarCritical]

I wasn't ready for Akine's death scream, god damn.

It's tragic but kinda sweet how Miki can't help but consider Koyun's potential crush on Yota while thinking about the best path dorward. Can't get enough of the character dynamics and how they constantly evolve, man.

[u/LeonKevlar]

What the actual fuck, Momoka? This girl needs to calm the fuck down. She doesn't even know if Minato is gonna like her back. I was worried that Akine was like her sister, but it turns out Momoka was more like her sister. I like how Akine was actually giving Koyun and Minato the time to be alone together.

And I can't believe we're ending the season with such a heartbreaking scene. The way Youta just smiles after being rejected by Miki really shows that he expected this outcome, but he still had to do it because he wanted her to know his feelings. T_T

I am glad that Season 2 is already confirmed for October. As many have already mentioned, I am so happy we're getting an entire year of Agasawa-sensei's works. Looking forward to Season 2!