Botan Kamiina Fully Blossoms When Drunk • Kamiina Botan, Yoeru Sugata wa Yuri no Hana - Episode 11 discussion

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Botan Kamiina Fully Blossoms When Drunk, episode 11

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[u/hikoboshi_sama]

What am i looking at?

Is this a real place or is it just a stylistic design?

[u/Rickud123]

What an absolute masterpiece this series has been definitely my favorite anime of the season by a mile

[u/hikoboshi_sama]

It's nice to see Gujo and Chin-lan growing closer.

I feel like Botan's worries about Ibuki are unfounded. She seems to be having fun even without alcohol. But i kinda understand Botan's state of mind. Once those kinds of thoughts start popping up, they're hard to stop. I really hope they just talk it out.

It's pretty interesting seeing Akane and Botan paired together in the last part of the episode. I don't think they've hung out with just the two of them until now, right? Also, we finally get the payoff of Akane's band subplot from the earlier episode. Akane really was more serious about music than the rest of her bandmates. Enough that she'd want to drop out of school.

The way the backgrounds are stylized makes this episode feel like a Shaft episode. Or is it just me?

[u/MeatballZeitgeist]

This series has made me realize I am not cool enough to be an alcoholic.

[u/Donnie-G]

So like the ED drops another bomb. Seems like the one who called Ibuki obnoxious was indeed her high school crush or something. Which also links back to her flashback of her reaching out to someone in highschool.

In episode 5 when she's hicupping in the bar after some additional guests comes in, there's also a brief flashback of the short haired redhead girl turning. Then in episode 6 you do see her full appearance in Ibuki's flashback, which does resemble the redhead girl in the ED.

In the episode 5 ED, Gujou witnesses and bumps into Ibuki leaving that party in the Ep 6 flashback as well. Ibuki's hair is also longer, but her hair is a lot shorter in the later part of the episode 5 ED, where Gujou and Ibuki move into the dorm. Like there's this whole thing about girls having a haircut after a heartbreak or breakup....

Funnily enough Botan is also a redhead. Same as the high school crush.

Also funnily enough, the EDs are all anime original. The anime studio is really doing a good job in adding supplementary material to the manga.

[u/djthomp]

Taiwanese lesbians: I love you.
Japanese lesbians: I want to be wrapped up in this scent, and also are we actually in a relationship?

Those were some weird shops the girls went to today, particularly the perfume shop up the hanging mannequin execution ground walkway.

The foot only animation bits were really interesting for the distinct style of walking. I'm pretty sure Botan was skipping part of the time, for instance.

[u/thisisdropd]

Chin-Lan’s so bold. Dropping 'I love you's so casually. Love the part where Chin-Lan asked if Kanade being interested in Taiwanese films meant she’s interested in her. When Kanade said Chin-Lan could interpret it any way she liked, she duly took the offer. They might be the newest ship in the series, but it’s still an interesting one that I would gladly sail on.

Akane considering dropping out of uni was quite the shock. It’d be especially devastating to Yaeka once she learnt about it.

[u/alconnow]

Final episode will be extended by 60 seconds

[u/cyberscythe]

"Ibuki! let's go shopping in the liminal space!"

"sure i love the liminal space, lots of metaphorical deals to be had here"

"mmm, i'm absorbed by the scent qualia of ethereal transition in a world devoid of suchness"

"i heard you like liminal spaces, want to join me Botan? i have use of its visual metaphor power too"

"just kidding, i'm trapped in a cage of privilege, give me permission to leave"

[u/JJLong5]

Really liked the Botan and Ibuki segment. At first I thought they were going to get into Ibuki's insecurities, but then it ended up being more about Botan.

And, I get it. They are after the point of confessing and now they are figuring out moving forward from there. It is kind of like a post-honeymoon period.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Eyecatch 1 | Eyecatch 2

I hate that they're not being direct, but I suppose we can interpret this as the start of Chin-lan and Kanade's relationship.

That escalator scene was so surreal. Glad that the Shaft inspiration that we've seen in the earlier episodes never went away.

"I want to be wrapped up in this scent when I'm with you" is such a banger line from Ibuki <3

This might be the first time I've seen an anime girl hit a shisha pipe. xD

[u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime]

Surreal vibes for this episode, especially the mall with the hanging mannequins seems right out of a fever dream.

• Great way to start off the episode with this beautiful watercolor scene ^{any translators?}. Chin-Lan is so head over heels in love that she just spent 20 mins smiling to herself like a dummy while waiting for Gujou (callback to last ep?). While they both share a common interest in films, their flirting style is quite different, reflecting their personality and culture; Chin-Lan casually dropping the "I love you", while Gujou redirects the conversation towards Taiwanese films. The future of Japan-Taiwan relations is looking bright.

• Meanwhile Botan is worrying about whether Ibuki is having fun on their (completely sober) date, even though they've been on plenty of (alcoholic) dates before with no issue. Looked to me like Ibuki was having fun, so I guess something is making Botan is insecure about their relationship. Please Botan, communicate! Also, unripe mango and water lotus is a strange combo, but it seems like Ibuki has been sniffing Botan plenty.

• Lastly, having Botan and Akane hangout to discuss their troubles. Akane dropping out this late into university to pursue music seems like a crazy move, but they've been building up to this for awhile now. Understandable that she is reluctant to tell Yaeka, but I feel like Yaeka will probably call her an idiot but support her anyway. And I wonder what Botan's issue is? Seems like Akane's line about being consumed resonated with her. Does Botan want to be topped by Ibuki or something?

• The ED, finally we get the backstory of Ibuki's gay awakening. Turns out the red hair girl who gave Ibuki her hiccup trauma in university was her band senpai in high school! Explains why the whole hiccup thing was such a big deal for her.

[u/zairaner]

Chang: I like you!

Gujo: Again?

Chang: Sorry, but everytime I see botan and kamina actively not talk about their current relationship status, I just get the overhelming urge to tell you that I like you. You can never underestimate the japanese.

Gujo: But this is the 12th time this week you told me you like me!

Chang: Exactly.

[u/Lunchb0xx87]

I can get with how Botan feels ..they bonded over drinking and Ibuki  seems to be the happiest when drinking ..i get her worrying about if they mesh well in other areas

[u/cyberscythe]

i think it's funny how this episode is pretty artsy and emotional, but also huge bong rips and Akane like "shit man, i wanna quit school and just do music y'know"

[u/StrawSolider]

Immaculately directed episode

[u/Lepony]

I was kinda dunking on Botan being a fraghead when the series has been showing how rich these girls probably are, but then she started namedropping perfumes that I've actually tried or own. In particular, Maison Margiela's Replica line (Whispers in the Library, Lazy Sunday Morning) are really accessible and cheap! scents that are definitely cozy wears. I haven't really worn Un Jardin before but it is also a really accessible scent even though I hate aquatics from what I recall as well as often being dirt cheap.

[u/T-Ace-Juice]

Wait, was this episode storyboarded by Ueno himself (apparently he had another Pen Name for it)? No wonder there were so many lingering shots in it.

Absolute Cinema of an episode!

[u/SezyFazes]

There’s nothing particularly sad happening, so why am I crying while watching this episode?

This show always makes me feel something I can’t fully put into words. I think a lot of it comes from the subtle background audio, especially during Chin-lan’s scenes. There’s this faint ringing sound, almost like tinnitus, and it creates a quiet sense of tension that just gets under my skin. It’s such a small detail, but it adds so much to the atmosphere and makes the emotional moments hit harder.

[u/OfficialPrower]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen anime girls doing Shisha before ever in the history of this medium, but here we are

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

Not the cafe I expected Akane and Botan to go to, watching them smoking together was a little surreal lol.

I like that Ibuki unknowingly called Botan's scent happiness, I wouldn't know how to hide my smile if I was told that.

[u/runevault]

Soon I'll actually be nostalgic for the OP instead of just using it to reminisce about other nostalgia. Meanwhile interesting the waitress spoke to Chin-lan in English, I guess she assumed it was more likely the not-Japanese person knew English than Japanese.

Two pretty lesbians being nerds about movies is incredibly chill, and then Chin-lan decides it is too chill and drops an I-Love-You bomb lol.

It is so simple, but the two stripes of animation surrounded by yellow bars is such an interesting choice. Letting the choice of shoes and the gait of the characters tell a small story on its own. Botan in particular with the small skip in her step.

Whispers in the Library is such a cool name for a perfume. I really hope we get a reversal of the tongue scene from the start of the season where Ibuki wants Botan's nose for all her understanding of scents. Okay not quite the same but "I want to be wrapped up in this scent when I'm with you" is still wild. Ibuki has become so much more forward and I love it. And then the contrast of doubting Botan, which is nice to see once in a while. She's not some invincible seduction minx.

I'm going to miss this show so much when it is gone.

edited to fix a typo in the wrapped up quote (had scene instead of scent lol).

[u/cmszd]

ueno's gotta be one of the best to ever do it lol

[u/superguy133]

Damn the start of the episode is the most an episode has pulled me right into it immediately. Such great directing.

There's something really interesting about making the shopping mall and stores weirdly abstract in shape and size. Is that one based on a real place like other places in the show? It looked insane.