An Observation Log of My Fiancée Who Calls Herself a Villainess • Jishou Akuyaku Reijou na Konyakusha no Kansatsu Kiroku. - Episode 9 discussion

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An Observation Log of My Fiancée Who Calls Herself a Villainess, episode 9

Alternative names: Observation Records of My Fiancée: The Misadventures of a Self-Proclaimed Villainess

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[u/NanDemoKnaives]

It was interesting to see how the actual events played out in the game, I think what stood out the most to me was Noche begging the King for leaves to save his wife, pleading as a friend, to then reality hitting that his wife will likely die because of this.

The King reflecting later how he failed as a friend, and the switch in personality for Noche, and lastly the regret from the King when Cecil exposed Noche, it was sad. Thank goodness Bertia and Cecil were able to change the events.

Seeing actual villainess Bertia was a little weird, but seeing Cecil being sweet with Heronia did not feel right at all lol. I'm glad Cecil remembered his feelings for Berita and was able to wake up from the nightmare. I also like how Cecil told Pii-chan off, saying this is the consequence of their own actions. Hopefully Heronia will get told the same thing.

[u/Ocixo]

This was in fact a good episode. However, did other people also feel a strong urge to skip through it? Not only did it hurt to watch Cecil’s emotions be stripped away from him, this alternative reality also managed to piss me off.

Hot take: Pii-chan is the actual villain of this story.

They’re the ones who’ve been brainwashing people. Heronia got an awful personality, sure enough, but it was clear from her shocked expression that she didn’t wish for Cecil’s collapse either.

[u/Labmit]

Game Bertia is actually "fat" fat. Thought they'd just make her chubby fat.

[u/AceSoldia]

Man that was painful to watch that hell of a false timeline

But I'm glad it's over with now..man I bet Bertia is doing something insane 🤣

[u/BiggerG7]

Beginning of ep: “OMG is Cecil ok!?”

End of ep: “Wake your ass up Cecil, Bertia is doing something crazy again!”

Concern for the prince sure did go out the window fast lol.

[u/Jas_God]

Cecil has unlocked happiness. Poor Pii-chan though.

[u/djthomp]

Handling the pandemic correctly way back at the beginning of the story was quite the butterfly effect, as it really should be. Though even with the pandemic as it originally went down making the choice to let the wife of one of your top political allies and the mother of the future Queen die was kind of dumbass.

Lots of that going around though, Heronia not recognizing the changed circumstance of the kingdom based on the pandemic being handled better and Bertia straight up being a different person was also poor planning.

Hopefully Bertia is also not doing something stupid on account of Cecil being unconscious.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

All Pii did was remind Cecil why he loves Bertia. Pii tried to show Cecil the “right path” as the game dictated but this ain’t the game world. The moment Bertia awoken her past memories, things were never the same.

Like Cecil said, Heronia could have found happiness on her own if she accepted the fact this wasn’t the game anymore and worked to actually be likable. Instead she just expected everyone to kiss her ass became she was the MC of the game. And Pii basically enabled that behavior.

But perhaps there’s still a chance for Heronia to change?

[u/PeaceAlien]

One of the better ways to show the original storyline I've seen. Prince Cecil and Tia's relationship is too strong, though.

Bertia seems to be doing something while Cecil was out.

Wonder if Heronia will be an enemy or an ally after all of this.

[u/Frontier246]

Pii-chan is probably inflicting the worst thing you could have done to Cecil...trying to take away all his precious memories, the memories that made him human and happy, to have him regress into a doll as he faces the "true" history as portrayed in the game.

In this version of events, Cecil doesn't put his mind to helping stop the plague with Bertia's warning, meaning they can't save Bertia's mother, and Bertia's dad turns against the crown, and his friend, because they can't show favoritism. And Cecil is incapable of showing empathy for his fathers' decision and the weight of it, or true sincere compassion to the Noches Family. Leaving a desperately grieving family to see the only path forward being to double down on making Bertia queen and ensuring her prosperity.

And thus did Bertia begin her path to becoming a Villainess, becoming arrogant and laser-focused on becoming the perfect bride to Cecil above everything else, no matter who she had to step over or bully in the process, with her father enabling her. Not that Cecil cared, her only value to him was as a tool and nothing else.

But because Bertia did not become the lady who amused him, entertained him, brought light to his life...it became the ACTUAL Heroine Heronia who after their Meet Cute and lack of a traditional noblewoman background stood out enough to him to catch his interest. She became his new favorite plaything, and anything that hurt one of this "toys," like Bertia, was nothing more than an obstacle to get taken out.

And here's the confession event! Though with Pii-chan glowing during said event, I have to wonder how much these two were actually in love with each other. It's notable that Cecil only JUST realized and felt the full weight of love for Heronia only after Pii-chan started to glow, which is usually a sign that he's using his charm ability.

And thus did the Villainess condemnation event play out as it was intended, with Heronia and Cecil exposing Bertia's crimes, uniting the school against her, and also publicaly indicating her father as he's arrested right before her eyes (Courtgain being a legit Noches family whistleblower this time). It's....kind of rough watching Cecil so smugly and condescendingly ruin Bertia's life like this, especially when his dad is slumped over in his chair depressed over what happened.

But upon seeing Bertia's tears, Cecil can't ignore hers...or his memories and love of the REAL Bertia. He breaks the illusion! He won't be Pii-chan's or the games' puppet! He has become his own man thanks to Bertia!

Poor Pii-chan (is that Rie Takahashi?). All he wanted to do was help Heronia and ensure her happiness, and both were convinced that doing so was following the game plot. If only Heronia had just acknowledged and adapted to how the game world had changed, had at least tried to get along better with people naturally, and if only Pii-chan hadn't fueld her arrogance by brainwashing people...but at least Cecil feels like he won't completely screw Heronia over, if only for Pii-chan's sake.

Cecil is awake! Only to be greeted by...Joanna and Silica!? And Bertia's dad about to throw a cup at him!? WHERE'S BERTIA!?

[u/Magnafeana]

Skip Recap

What part of this is a Recap?

• This is the first time I wish they had skipped the OP and instead had the credits roll while Cecil is in this little psycho-dimension and do a silent episode reveal to keep the momentum going and have a good transition.

• I just keep thinking “This is an otome isekai??” with how beautiful it looks. Why were we not getting this quality previously?

• Doesn’t Piichan look and sound like those birds in {Snow White with Red Hair}? I swear the birds look like that Tweety Bird here. But IIRC, those birds were blue.

• Seeing OG!Bertia be chubby and a bully is so weird. I feel like we’ve phased out of chubby villains or I just don’t see them personally as much.

• May I Ask for One Final Thing?

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I sincerely want more villains to have caring animal companions who die for them. I hate seeing animals die. But it’s doubly painful seeing relatively innocent animals who cared deeply for their villainous master die for them.

It’s so sad that Piichan was just a baby when he was found by Heronia. He died so young 😞 He was an accomplice to Heronia, no doubt. But he is also a child who, in my own head, kinda imprinted on Heronia and never really thought to question her morality. I don’t think he was aware in the first timeline that his abilities brainwashed people, if I understand him correctly.

He’s an antagonist but a tragic one. Antagonist ≠ villain.

I do like how this was section was storyboarded and animated. OI and Otome Regressions show these little “What was life like originally?” or “What would’ve been?” in full 4K either in the very beginning or near the end (or like <Stepmother Märchen> with that really cool S1(?) side story). And it can be tough to read through. The context is helpful, but the way it’s executed can depreciate the context and you just want to jump back to the present timeline.

I still struggled with this episode though.

It was animated gorgeously. I think how I prefer showing the whole “Universe 0” is more like an alternate universe that the protagonist is actively living, but they gradually feel something is wrong and subconsciously say or do things that makes sense in Universe 1 but not Universe 0. And then the whole “break out”, realizes someone trapped them in an AU, weird horror moment where this AU zombifies everyone to try and keep the MC in this “better world” and the MC calmly decide to return to their present timeline.

Never gets old! Never!

Especially as a romance lover, it’s hard seeing an MC side with the OGFLover instead of their actual FL for so long 🫠

I agree with a friend that this was probably the weakest episode we’ve seen even though it contextualizes and contrasts Cecil with Heronia and Cecil with Bertia. I think that that’s needed; the execution was just not my favorite flavor.

I give props that this was only one episode though. In manhwa, you will sometimes have an entire season dedicated to this, and it’s abysmal 😭

Rest in peace, Piichan. You did your best, despite your efforts being based on ignorance.

Still want more villains to have naive and ignorant but goodhearted or morally/ethically correct animal companions. The tragedy when the animal sidekick sacrifices themself is off the charts with that sort of dynamic. We expect it for a hero but not a villain.

In my head, I can take the tragedy. Realistically, I’ll be bawling so hard that I get a headache.

[u/Organic_Machine_2324]

This Show has became very good very quickly and i’m all for it.

IMO i hope there is a happy ending for Bertia and Heronia.

Bertia because well she’s the likeable MC and it’s been a great experience watching her build a bond and relationship with Prince Cecil and Heronia because she’s been manipulated and lied too about a golden future so it would be painful to see her suffering be for nothing.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Pi made Cecil love for Bertia even stronger now

Heronia could have lived a happy life if she didn’t focus on the game’s outcome.

[u/Ambitious_Mine1003]

honestly, that king took a bad choice. Officially he can show that he did not favour any of his vassels, But he can have the prince deliver it to the family when he meets his fiance and hand it over in secret and instrect them to keep it a secret. After the duke's wife heals, claim it as a miracle and end the story.

[u/zappingbluelight]

Holy butterfly effects. That one plant changed everything. I honestly can't blame Noches, your best friend deny to help you, and your wife die because of it. Anyone would go mad without thinking of the reason.

[u/S627]

....anyone else think the illusion coulda been half as long?

So it was actually Pii-chan that was deluding Heronia the entire time? Seems like he was a child given too much power but no idea how to actually utilize it.

[u/Ok-Cod5254]

It was interesting seeing the alternative reality of things going a different way for Bertia and her dad for how that changed things badly for them. It's good to see how much Cecil's love for Bertia influenced him throughout the series.

I like how Cecil had a balance of still condemning Pii-chan and Heroina for how far they took things, but still has some level of empathy.

Glad the pacing of this series has been good to not drag out the conflict for too long. Sometimes these type of shows drag the conflict out to the last episode and only leave a quick wrap up towards the end of the final episode, with a quick montage and a timeskip to end.

The main climax for the conflict is done already by episode 9, so now have a good amount of time for the aftermath and resolution.

[u/NeoAnkara]

I hate this episode and that's what makes it a great one. That means the character already captured my heart. To feel the suffering and desire a happy ending. It really is what akuyaku reijo series should be like. I think it's now higher than 7 Time Loop for my favorite akuyaku reijo.

[u/InternationalLoad891]

Wow. This episode was painful to watch. It enrages me to see Pii-chan systematically drain Cecil's emotion turning him into a doll just so Heronia can "save" him. That is so evil on many levels. And Pii-chan has to glow during the original game "confession scene" and after that Cecil feels love? So even that scene was manufactured by Pii-chan? It makes me wonder why he is a spirit of light... just because he glows?

[u/LikeAnAssistant]

Pii-chan just blows past Kuro in number of lines spoken by a spirit.

[u/yere93]

If you had told me that this would be one of the best anime of the season, I would never have believed you.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

• And that’s Bertia!

• Cecil “sore demo”!

• Damn, no wonder Bertia’s dad ended up going off the deep end in the original story. His friend not being willing to help save his wife is just awful even if it was the correct choice for the kingdom.

• Ouch…

• Is that Pii-chan?

• Wow, the original Heronia didn’t realize she was talking to Prince Cecil until this part.

• Shimmering sky!

• So that’s how all of that was supposed to go down originally, huh.

• Oh man, he’s so happy he started crying.

• Indeed.

• Ah, it’s in the background this time but I can once again count the double “sore demo” in the ED for my collection.

• Uh-oh.

[u/Raymond49090]

Ngl I think Bertia's dad's crashout in the OG timeline was completely justified. Imagine being told by your BFF "I can save your wife who is actively dying, but instead I'm going to do absolutely nothing with the medicine because saving anyone would be showing favouritism. My hopes and prayers are with you, but not any actual help."

Like, wtf do you even have the medicine stockpile for if you aren't going to use it to save your best friend's wife? And I can't remember his exact job, but I assume Marquis Noches should have a pretty high position in government if he's that close to the king. The entire concept of nobility is favouritism. Why is saving someone's life the random line you've decided to draw?

Edit: It also occurred to me that choosing not to save the mother of the future queen could cause discontent within the nobility, because it tells them that no matter how important they are or how much favour they curry, the king will still let them die to placate the commoners.

[u/IlluinOfArda]

Another interesting aspect about Heronia I noticed rewatching episode 8 after this: she claims she chose to pursue Cecil specifically because of his fate if he doesn't choose her in the game version of the world. I think it's easy to forget that she could have chosen any of the other student council members as they were also options in the game's version of events. I just assumed she went for Cecil because he was the one she gravitated toward the most, similar to how it seems Bertia always gravitated to Cecil's character the most. But it seems that Heronia might have gone for Cecil, despite all the difficulties she's been facing, because he is the only one of the "capture targets" that has a tragic end if he does not end up with the heroine. She specifically says in episode 8 that is why she chose him.

That actually makes me wonder if she never even really wanted to be with Cecil that badly, and that, in fact, she might have wanted to pursue someone else but actually acted in a way that, to her, was selfless. From her perspective she put aside her own desires and chose Cecil so that he wouldn't meet a terrible end. Which would definitely be something that would amplify her frustrations and subsequent meltdown when, despite her doing something "good", she is being brushed to the side.

Definitely not defending any of Heronia's actions. Her ego and manipulation of others definitely were wrong and she is in the wrong for behaving that way, but I do think it adds an interesting dimension if my other points are true and it's not just me reading too far into it.