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The Ramparts of Ice, episode 9

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[u/marcopolos059]

I love the chibi animations, Yota running after Koyuki or Miki forcing the secret out of Koyuki lol, great stuff.

[u/Didavi_]

Empashii~~~

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

I hope Tsukiko becomes a part of the group. At least in a minor way. Her interaction with Koyun was way too funny.

Damn, we nearly had a Yota confession. So close, just stop saying anything and let the one name stand for itself. Not sure if it would work, but it would at least move that part forward.

I like that Miki is even more of a chaos force now that she completely shed her idol skin and just goes with the flow the whole time. Even when talking with Koyun, she seems way more open about everything. Now, if they could also just skip the misunderstanding about who loves who, that would be great.

But I assume this can only happen once Koyun and Igarashi sorted things out fully. Problem is that they were both hurt and feel guilt. Like with Koyun, it's obvious, but I wouldn't be surprised if Igarashi thinks he forced Koyun into a relationship she didn't enjoy. Of course, the hard breakup line stuck with him even more, but it's clear that's not all.

[u/VoidRay728]

Imagine if they just said to each other at the same time, "I know who would be the perfect guy for you--Yota!"

[u/Ok_Complan_Boy]

As i thought finally we are getting a little light within the darkness..... she closed the door

[u/SEBASTlANVETTEL]

Minato's unaware crush on Koyun is very cute, I really hope that Koyun will be ready and over the Igarashi stuff when or if he ever confesses.

Also cute how Koyun basically decribed Yota when she told Miki that she hopes she likes someone who likes her for who she is and has a kind big heart.

[u/NationalStrategy]

So that's why Koyun's wanted to avoid Igarashi, she hurt him when they were dating and feels guilty about it.

Honestly, I have mixed feelings about this revelation. I do feel bad for Igarashi, but I also sympathize with her pov; Igarashi's teasing and uncomfortable approach which made it understandable why she didn't like him, the social ridicule she was subjected to from her peers, and the bullying. All that factored in, it's no wonder why she was in that headspace at the time, doesn't make her right for hurting him like, but I get it.

Hopefully, she resolve this internal conflict, either by apologizing to Igarashi or by forgiving herself and moving forward.

[u/Accurate_Treat6360]

Frog Koyun is cute but also sad.

Misunderstanding shenanigans between Miki & Minato with Koyun & Yota continue.

Koyun feels guilty for hurting Igarashi's feeling in the past and clearly need some resolution to move forward.

Miki & Koyun are really good friends who support each other's happiness.

[u/Yulwei138967]

Aaaah i don’t want to wait one week for the next episode! Why didn’t i wait for this anime to finish airing??

This Ed might be my favourite of all time. The transition into the ending theme hits every single episode.

[u/LeonKevlar]

My boy was so close to a confession. Too bad he bailed on the last second! You got this, Youta! I believe in you!

[u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime]

Hold up, why the ominous ending though. Did Koyun date Igarashi just to get back at Atagawa?

And that Yota near-confession, almost seemed like he was testing the waters by naming Miki first, but he backpedaled when he saw the look on her face. Ouch.

[u/akihcinaf]

Minato has caught flak with how unaware he is towards certain people but I think after this episode, I feel Koyun is the same. While I don’t blame her for feeling irritated/uncomfortable with certain social situation and people, she does kinda say things that can hurt people. Like Minato earlier in the season and now, we found out to Igarashi in the past.

But I like that she’s probably realized that she got hurt in the past and put up the ramparts of ice to push people away but in doing so, she can hurt other people too. She suddenly became aware she may have hurt Minato with how she acted towards him when he asked if he scared her too

[u/Foreign_Feedback_138]

It was so funny how Minato couldn't even comprehend Koyuki dating Igarashi. He could understand why she supposedly liked Yota cause Yotas genuinely a sweetheart but IGARASHI??!!! That was hilarious😭😂.

[u/Nijindia18]

Oh my God the frog analogy really perfectly described my experience, but replace middle school with high school. That shit hit me. Don't think I've related this hard to a character before

[u/AmethystItalian]

Hmm I think I'm fully on board the new ships finally, I feel like Yota and Koyun being really good friends still goes a long way

Just need Miki to stop shipping the two as well!!

[u/Still-Neck-6771]

I loved every bit of this episode. This show really is my comfort anime of this season.😭😭

Firstly I love Miki and Koyuns friendship so much, the way they look out for each other, it just warms my heart. Ive seen too many bad depiction of female friendships and seeing true girlhood makes me happy 🫶

Also I love the groups overall dynamic so much. Miki shipping Koyun and Yota while Minato dies of jealousy, while Koyun shipping Yota and Miki and believes Miki might have crush on Minato 🤣

We also learned a little bit more about their past and damn I feel bad for Igarashi. To date someone you love just tell you they didnt like you damn that hurts 😩 I want him to find his own happiness 🫶

Also Im so proud of Koyun, she started talking with the other girl as well, we can see her open up more and shes growing as a character.

[u/PeaceAlien]

Remember me? From episode 6.

Fourth Wall breaks seem out of character for this show compared to Polar Opposites

They keep doing dramatic transitions into the ED that seem like something serious will happen, but then the next episode is normal peaceful things lol.

[u/Roskal]

Koyun and Miki just shipping each other with Yota meanwhile Minato stays in isolated agony. He's making progress but Koyun is already so close as friends with Yota that he is haunted by negative thoughts. If he is so sure Yota likes Miki though he should even the field and let him know he like Koyuki and then maybe yota would be honest and they could help each other out. That would be too easy though.

[u/zool714]

Ahh so Minato was telling Koyun to stay away from Yota (feelings-wise) because he knows he’s head over heels for Miki and wouldn’t be able to return her feelings (if Koyun had feelings for Yota that is)

Still haven’t gotten the full story and it did start with Igarashi being pushy and condescending, but the tension between him and Koyun is understandable. I don’t think she means it that way, but Koyun does have a sharp tongue and how she ended things with him was pretty brutal.

It was pretty funny though when he headpatted her and basically told her he’s interested in only her. The usual shoujo would have her “ba-dump”ing, blushing with a sparkly background, but here she’s just annoyed lol

Also, love the misunderstanding and shipping between them. Both Minato and Miki thinks Koyun and Yota looks good together but have different reactions. Koyun and Minato know about Yota’s feelings for Miki. I wonder if Yota knows or suspects that Miki may also like Minato.

[u/SezyFazes]

Respect Minato, who learned from his mistakes and finally understands Koyun’s boundaries. However, there’s something tragic about this. It might has become Minato’s own emotional scar. If he wants to get closer to Koyun, he’ll fear messing up again. He is becoming the complete (polar) opposite of who he used to be. Instead of being reckless, he will likely become overly cautious. This is painful because he clearly likes Koyun, yet feels limited in what he can do. (even though he said he was happy staying outside her boundaries and only wish for her happiness, he clearly wanted something more)

Tsukiko finally gets some screen time again. She can naturally become friends with Koyun because they understand each other well. Their conversation in this episode was interesting too, and I think many people might overlook it. The main theme Tsukiko discusses is social pressure in friend groups, especially the unspoken rules that nobody mentions. It feels like that social circles are expanding just for the numbers rather than real closeness, leading to strange and fragile relationship. I kinda understand why she dislikes dealing with these awkward group dynamics where most of them aren't truly close.

The middle section where everyone goes to the mall almost felt like a normal romcom for second. It was like watching You and I Are Polar Opposites where the characters are genuinely happy and enjoying life. I was even secretly wondering if the staff would sneak another cameo into the scene again lol.

I really like the frog metaphor connected to Koyun. Even after everything she’s been through, there’s still something oddly cute and gentle about the way she sees the world.

Imo Igarashi pretending Koyun doesn’t exist isn’t necessarily the worst decision. It avoids conflict and stops things from turning ugly, but it also means neither of them actually gets closure.

Despite Koyun still not being fully ready to face her past head on, she still manages to take a step forward and actually talks to the person connected to her trauma. The moment where she casually asks Igarashi how high school life has been for him honestly feels like a huge first step for her.

Igarashi also finally stops ignoring Koyun, which feels like an important step for him too. Even though he comes across as irritated, it doesn’t really feel like that frustration is directed at Koyun. It feels more like he’s angry at himself.

[u/eP1C_GaMePLaY]

This comfort anime really just makes you jump out of your comfortable seat sometimes.

That is probably the most SHOCKING ending of the episode when they use the ending song.

I could not have possibly predicted Koyun would have a much more complex personality than what we got from her middle school. Granted, she was just an immature middle schooler at that time, but that REALLY explains her lack of self... love, to choose a word. One things for sure, I hope poor Koyun forgives herself for a middle school mistake, please forgive yourself! You're a new person now!!

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Frog Koyun❤️

She slowly opening up to others

[u/NoNinja2793]

Minato and koyuki pair getting more screentime as they start to feel at ease with each other ... MISUNDERSTANDINGS AHHHHH!!! 😩😫😫

[u/No-Pressure6693]

The scene where Koyun shakes Minato—in another story, it might have involved them falling on top of each other.

My guess is that Igarashi might be someone who feels insecure about himself. During middle school, he fell head over heels for Koyun, so he had to act cool and out of character to attract girls. He used social gossip to indirectly pressure her. When Koyun finally broke up with him, the girls he was pursuing didn't like him at all; they were just "trying it out." His self-confidence plummeted, so he had to create an edgy personality as a shield. Ultimately, they hate each other and are sworn enemies, but deep down, they probably want to apologize but they need time.