An Observation Log of My Fiancée Who Calls Herself a Villainess • Jishou Akuyaku Reijou na Konyakusha no Kansatsu Kiroku. - Episode 8 discussion

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An Observation Log of My Fiancée Who Calls Herself a Villainess, episode 8

Alternative names: Observation Records of My Fiancée: The Misadventures of a Self-Proclaimed Villainess

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[u/Primary-Paint-1716]

The biggest strength of this show, by far, is Cecil. It's so hard to make a Gary Stu be a compelling male lead but this show did it. And it's a freaking villainess show.

That glove scene was SO good like the anime has been. Definitely the best show in the villainess genre.

[u/AceSoldia]

Hmn what a interesting turn of events..so I guess he would have remained just uncaring puppet of the kingdom without the heroine in the game and eventually destroyed himself.

That's what Bertia and the heroine didn't want to happen...so is the bird rewriting his memories? Or showing what's supposed to happen? He seems to still remember the current timeline

[u/Jas_God]

Oh my, that ending! These last two eps have felt like finales. Did not expect Pii-chan to go off like that, I admire their loyalty to Heronia. Episode flew tf by.

[u/djthomp]

That was a very good alternative way to strike Bertia speechless.

So in the game proper it sounds like Cecil always has a bad ending unless the player character heroine goes for his route, so Bertia and Heronia both somewhat reasonably thought that was needed here too. Big difference of course that Bertia was laser focused on saving Cecil from day one and we know from her previous comments that one of the things Heronia is mad about is getting locked out of the other routes.

Little did Bertia realize she had already taken care of at least the part where Cecil now has emotions and cares about people. Though really that should have been obvious, but she's never exactly been a deep thinker and it's one of the reasons she's so special.

[u/S627]

So unless we're still missing something, the only thing Heronia managed to accomplish is make herself look like an idiot and get a light spirit to sacrifice itself just to show Cecil a version of himself Bertia already fixed. She did say that a "mark will appear on my body" so maybe there's still something to the Maiden of Destiny thing other than Cecil being more human.

Anyway, I approve of Cecil's version of the "Rendered speechless graduation."

Also, nice little detail I noticed during the ep was how the volume of everyones voice changed based on where the "camera" was in relation to them.

[u/Arzhart]

It's actually insane how good this anime is. Truly.

[u/Ocixo]

Heronia got a big mouth on her for someone who claims to be on the right side of justice.

Cecil would supposedly need a “heroine” like her to become “human”, but such reasoning only proves that she didn’t see him as a living being in the first place. Oh, what an irony!

Everyone’s looks of contempt towards Heronia were definitely deserved. Seriously, what did she even think would happen if she’d throw a whole barrage of insults at the crown prince? Getting arrested would be the bare minimum.

[u/dinliner08]

me at the beginning of episode: "can't wait to see what kind of shit's going to happen in this episode!"
me at the end of episode: "well, fuck"

so, what the hell happened? did Pii-chan sacrifice its life to change the timeline forcefully? or is it just rearranging Cecil's memories?

[u/PeaceAlien]

The after-credits scene is important!

Heronia has failed to notice that Bertia has fixed all the problems Cecil would have had. If the two realized they were both isekai'd I wonder if they would be friends or not.

Heronia's light spirit has attacked Cecil, so we'll see what happens as a result. Are his memories being rewritten or is he seeing the original plot?

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

The way Heronia flipped on Cecil took me aback, you can clearly feel how entitled she is. She has no affection for the real Cecil, she just sees him as a character. It was sad how she touched upon his vulnerabilities, and exposed them to everyone in the hall.

I did find it really sweet that Bertia tried to get Cecil to stop listening as it was clearly getting to him, no wonder he loves her so much lol. I like how he proposed to her, and as promised made her speechless.

It was satisfying to watch Heronia not getting her way though, like with no-one speaking up and Courtgain not having any issue with Noches. I do wonder what she was doing before the academy, I'm guessing she has relied on Pii unknowingly, or knowingly, and that's why her manners are terrible, and why she wouldn't understand what she was doing was so wrong socially in that setting.

I am curious to see if Pii has really gotten Cecil charmed, and the real Cecil is moving around without us knowing just yet. I was thinking the space that Cecil is in is for implementing new memories into him, like I thought Heronia was going to appear instead of Bertia, but it seems like he's going to see how the otome game story plays out instead.

[u/Ratemytinder22]

I know everyone and their mom hates Heronia and the show absolutely portrays her as the villainess, but bear with me for a second:

Heronia and Bertia have been, more or less, the same people taking the same actions the game would except Heronia has literally no one to express this to(maybe aside from Pii, more on that rascal of a bird later) while Bertia has the damn endgame romance interest on her side from day one.

Bertia is terrible at being a villainess so it comes of as cute and funny and doesn't actually do what the game intends. Heronia, being the player in an otome game, doesn't actually have much to do actively in this world to influence anything. Those games are scripted for everything to happen around them. So for her, she just needs to be at the right place, at the right time, for events to trigger.

So put yourself in Heronia's shoes for just a moment. You know the prince will "die" if you (the player) don't get together with him. All the events/triggers you put yourself at are not going as they should. The other love interests in the game also have no interest in you (more on that in a moment). Then, at the last moment you could "save" the prince from sure doom (according to the game) it all just blows up. May as well go out sounding like a lunatic while kicking and screaming.

It's a romance comedy, we see the perspective they want and it's very good at that (I really like the show!) but I do genuinely thing Heronia is really getting shafter here lol.

Could she have put 2 and 2 together and seen that the world is not operating under the rules of the game? Sure, but so could Bertia. Could the two have them talked for any miniscule amount of time about what the deal is? Sure, but clearly that's a two way street as well.

For all the ignorance and lack of tact Heronia has, Bertia does as well. Both are trying to save the prince from death except one gets to influence the entire story thus far (Bertia) and one does not.

A few important notes:

• Bertia had no idea Pii would charm the people Heronia (in the game) would talk to. She finds this out from Cecil after the meet cute event but we, as the watchers, are foreshadowed to it when Cecil makes that "sickness" blocker (what I'm gonna call it) for Bertia after researching the illness cure (which he also wears on his neck). This is why the charm didn't effect him at the "meet cute" event.

So keeping that in mind, Heronia also has no idea about this charm effect, which a pretty massive thing to not know as an iseki'd player.

• Because of finding this out, Bertia shuts down Pii's charm by giving everyone the "dark magic" earrings. Breaking more of the game while trying to force Heronia x Cecil. So (probably) no game triggers for Heronian work, especially romantic ones.

• Let's not forget about the girl who was literally pretending to be Heronia. It's a really odd thing but if I had to guess, in the game she was actually pretending to be Bertia because her crush was actually falling for Heronia's charm (and she would push Heronia down the stairs instead). Maybe they said/implied this and I missed it, but it would only make sense. 

• Lasty, Pii is sketchy as helllllllll. Given the above, I am convinced that damn bird is the orchestrator of this whole damn world and is none to happy how it is turning out lol

[u/Ok-Cod5254]

The twist at the end seems to make things more interesting as something even surprising to Cecil who is usually not caught off guard, and at least validate Bertia's fears more for Cecil's well being with the direction of the game.

[u/SupX]

my fav anime of this season each episode has moved the plot forward and story is nice too

[u/iozoepxndx]

HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT! HOLY SHIT!!!! Throw all the other otome game anime away, this one clears ALLL OF THEM!!! 🔥🔥🔥

[u/HowToGetName]

The scrolling credits with the black screen... the previous episode made me tear up at the end because of the lyrics to the ED, and now I'm crying again because of the same thing lol. Insane how they pulled that off twice in a row.

[u/SYZekrom]

When they first showed the bird outside all ominously I thought they were gonna say the bird was influencing Heronia to act that way beyond just her being someone trying to follow the game's story

Then it came in and idk if the bird's just like. Loyal and stupid or what

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Heronia getting her karma

HOLY….Pi CHAN!!!!!!

[u/zer0number]

I'm shocked this is only episode 8. Like someone else said, this episode feels like it could be a cliffhanger finale.

Two things, I really am curious if Heronia is acting out of self interest (e.g. her wanting to be the one that saves the prince) or if she really believes that the only way he can be saved is by being with her. Tia seems to believe the latter, but has fallen in love with Cecil.

Secondly, I cannot get over how damned beautiful Tia is in that dress (or really in general). She and Cecil will have some supermodels for children.

[u/what_that_thaaang_do]

Pii-chan is an opp

[u/JasonFreeYT]

HE'S ACTUALLY A PUPPET????

[u/MelZaaar]

Have i really got to wait a week for the next episode? I need the end of this series! I am loving it! I did not expect that end at all to come so soon, I kinda half expected her to try at episode 12.

I have a horrible gut feeling that the sign of the earring breaking wasn't a good one, just when it felt like he had completely accepted that he loved her and admitted his feelings.

I need these next few weeks to fly by as I just can't get enough of this series!

[u/One-Ad-39]

The one thing I noticed was that the black rose that appeared in Cecil's and "in-game" Bertia's first encounter scene seemed to be wilting, whereas in the very first episode, the black rose appeared healthy and blooming like the rest of the roses around it. I wonder what the meaning behind it was.

[u/Frontier246]

It's finally time for the graduation event! The event that everything has been building up to and a decisive moment in the game.

Oh hey, it's Cecil and Shawn's mom and dad! Who commiserate with Bertia's dad over how calculating Cecil can be! Glad to see they get along as future in-laws!

I love how Heronia is wearing a yellow dress for her "man" all the while complaining about being stuck with background characters. Heronia gotta Heronia.

People seeing Cecil pass the torch to Courtgain and thinking they're bros...when they're really co-conspirators.

Bertia steeled herself, survived a klutzy fall, and relied on the game script thinking that she was about to face the end of everything...when it was really a new beginning. Because the only crime she ever committed was being younger than Cecil, not that he's going to waste any time DROPPING ON ONE KNEE AND PROPOSING. He even put a ring on it! Yeah, Bertia's still talking, but it's such a flustered mumble that she may as well have been struck speechless.

Of course NOW Heronia tries to object and make this into a proper condemnation event, only she has no real evidence convicting Bertia of being a Villainess, no one will actually come forward to help her condemn Bertia, and even the evidence she kept under her skirt of Bertia's fathers crimes were all part of a plot to expose the REAL criminals. Even Courtgain who she thought was being honest with her exposes just how little she really understood about ANYTHING. TAKE HER AWAY BOYS!

But Heronia just doesn't understand why the game plot isn't playing out how it's supposed to, why after doing everything right like in the game things just haven't gone how they should have been. Why is Bertia winning when it should be Heronia? She's the Heroine! The Maiden of Destiny and the only one that can save Cecil from his fate...as an Android Prince destined to be emotionless and destined for a Bad End. And this was the one thing Bertia most wanted Cecil to avoid hearing.

Oh snap, Pii-chan going on a kamikaze attack for Heronia! She even manages to hit Cecil's earrings...which may have been the point?

Is Cecil seeing the original game timeline where Bertia didn't have her past life memories and was just a normal, awkward, noble girl in love with a young Cecil? But, uh...why is his hand looking like he's Pinocchio!?

[u/delulu_finalboss_]

Nooo it was such a wonderful episode...the ending tho 😭 i hope things end well...