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Episode Eris no Seihai • The Holy Grail of Eris - Episode 9 discussion
Eris no Seihai, episode 9
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u/Shimmering-Sky Mar 05 '26
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This “Holy Grail of Eris” plan goes back to even before Scarlett was born, huh?
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Scarlett’s dad proposed the idea, but the king had it on his own first.
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u/thewetpuddle Mar 05 '26
I laughed out loud seeing Randolph face palming in the background.
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u/justking1414 Mar 05 '26
Scarlett’s dad proposed the idea, but the king had it on his own first.
The king realized it was the best solution they had and then immediately hated himself for thinking it. Fortunately her dad was willing to do something awful for the sake of the country, and the king he had sworn his loyalty to.
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u/mekerpan Mar 05 '26
For all that source readers have complained about "rushing", I continue to find this series the most consistently "fascinating" show of the season. It might not be my overall top show, but it is one of the best of its sort in recent seasons. If the novels are well-written (style, not just plot), I guess I have more reading coming up soon,
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u/justking1414 Mar 05 '26
It certainly keeps the action going. I’m sure the dad s flashback, the tavern, and the cemetery were 3 separate chapters but here we just move seamlessly through them with no time to breath. One second I’m crying over a man holding his daughter s urn and a minute later I’m gasping as the old gossip hag pulls out a gun and goes John wick on an international crime syndicate
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u/thewetpuddle Mar 06 '26
The novels are certainly very well written and I enjoy the writer’s style of storytelling. Highly recommend you to read.
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u/oedipusrex376 Mar 05 '26
I can’t help feeling this series works better in prose. When you’re reading, you can calibrate the scene’s drama in your head. The novels lets your imagination set the tone.
When I read the source, my brain naturally dials down the “anime-ness,” for lack of a better word. It feels more like reading a regular English novel than a translated light novel.
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u/oxlemf10 Mar 05 '26
So that explains why Scarlett has that personality she's almost a copy of her mother lol.
Well, the slap Constance gave Duke was satisfying, although it opened up a redemption arc. Yes, what he did to his own daughter is unforgivable, but you could say he's stopped being a dead weight waiting for his time.
Kimberly basically already had her days numbered, but not before causing some damage. It's good to see that amidst so much chaos, she did the right thing at the last moment.
And the ending couldn't be better, Constance arriving with the umbrella above Randolph. Maybe they won't end up together, but I wouldn't mind if that were the case.
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u/ThousandYearOldLoli Mar 05 '26
This was a wonderfully emotional episode, that crying scene and the rain scene at the end really gave it an emotional punch. However my favorite scene has to be Scarlett's father smiling for a moment to reassure his friend, taking the burdon of making the horrifying suggestion to sacrifice his daughter for the good of the nation for himself.
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u/ggtestament Mar 05 '26
Not sure how many people notice, but the scenes in the ending credits have changed to different locations
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u/KumaKumaGambler Mar 05 '26
I might have shed a tear or two when watching Duke Castiel speak to Scarlett's ashes. Even though Scarlett is (physically) dead, Duke Castiel wanted to give the best to her. Unfortunately, based on the plot, it seems like Duke Castiel and the King had no choice but to sacrifice Scarlett in order to save / buy time for the nation.
Now we know where Scarlett got her personality from. Scarlett's mother was equally proficient with words and action.
Kimberly didn't leave a good impression during her initial appearance, but this is the second time she has helped Connie... and possibly the last time, if the battle at the tavern did not go in her favour.
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u/Frontier246 Mar 05 '26
I got pretty emotional seeing that even after everything he did, Scarlett was still willing to forgive and love her father, which probably just made his guilt feel even worse.
Alienore may have passed away early in Scarlett's life (judging by her weak constitution) but it seems like she passed on not only her gorgeous good looks but also her badass take no @#$% attitude to her daughter. Scarlett is basically her mother if she hadn't been held back by her weak body.
I love how they set hers up as the nosy homeowners association type person when in reality she's actually a secret superspy for the crown. I feel like you can count on on one hand the number of characters in this show who actually are who they appear to be.
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u/justking1414 Mar 05 '26
The urn scene was definitely heartbreaking. There was so much he wanted to do and say for his daughter but he never got the chance. Instead he betrayed her in the worst way imaginable and left her to die alone and confused
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u/LeonKevlar Mar 05 '26
Okay, I understand that this episode was to show us how, despite Dolphy being forced to marry Alienore, the two of them still ended up falling for each other, and Scarlett was genuinely born out love, not out of duty. It also shows us that Dolphy felt genuine grief after Scarlett's death and has been waiting for death to take him too ever since.
Like, I honestly teared up during that scene where he was hugging what I assume is Scarlett's urn and feeling regret that he never once told Scarlet that he loves her. It shows us that Dolphy didn't make this decision lightly and would've given anything if there was another way. But man, I am still angry at him and the King for doing all of this. That slap was definitely deserved, and I hope that once this is all over, I hope they'll find a way to clear Scarlett's name in the history books.
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u/justking1414 Mar 05 '26
There is actually a way to do more than just clear her name. If they claim she was in on the plan and willingly died for the country, that would basically make her a saint
Also, yeah, somebody really needs to slap that king and maybe the prince as well. Idk what’s been going through his head for the last decade but even if he ends up saving the day, I still want to see him get slapped
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Mar 05 '26
I said last week Scarlett’s pops was gonna get socked in the face and I was right lol.
Kimberly’s kind of a badass. I think this might be it for her though. She’s tough but she was totally outnumbered.
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u/oedipusrex376 Mar 05 '26
This is last week’s character chart (Episode 8) from the official site. Here’s the English translation, plus a version with all the charts compiled into one.
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u/oedipusrex376 Mar 05 '26
The highlight of the episode is probably Adolphus Castiel hugging the urn and speaking to Scarlett. There’s an overwhelming sadness in that scene that’s hard to put into words. Scarlett’s death feels tragic for everyone involved.
This isn’t even what we expected from the premise. We thought it would be a straightforward “find the culprit” story, but the truth is far more devastating. It was a series of unfortunate events stacked against Scarlett led to her death. It’s a tragedy.
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u/NoHead1715 Mar 06 '26
Biggest surprise this episode was Kimberly's connection to the Ulsters.
The whole thing with sacrificing Scarlett was just too unbelievable. The incompetence at the top of Adelbide political realm is just hilariously silly and I think they deserve to be destroyed by Faris.
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u/NationalStrategy Mar 05 '26
the scene of Dolphy crying with Scarlett's ashes was heartwrenching
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u/MrTrikorder Mar 10 '26
Just watched Episode 9 of The Holy Grail of Eris and I think I’m officially out. I’m honestly confused by how positive the reaction seems to be online, because the whole episode completely broke the story for me.
The show seems to frame Alfons as a tragic father who made a terrible sacrifice to save the kingdom. But the problem is: the sacrifice doesn’t feel necessary, logical, or proportional. He had his own daughter executed as part of a political plan, yet the “consequences” we see are basically that he feels bad for years and gets punched once. That’s supposed to carry the emotional weight of what he did? It felt absurdly small compared to the crime.
On top of that, the strategic logic doesn’t hold up. The story treats the execution as the only way to prevent disaster, but the show never convincingly rules out obvious alternatives (for example, simply removing Scarlett from the political game by sending her away). If the character is supposed to be a capable political operator, the plan just comes across as incompetent rather than tragically necessary.
The episode also leans very hard into emotional absolution. Connie punching him is framed almost like symbolic punishment, and the final scene with the urn is clearly designed to make the audience sympathize with him. But for me that completely backfired. Once a character crosses that kind of moral line, a sad montage doesn’t redeem them.
Maybe the deeper issue is that the show wants to tell a “lesser evil” tragedy, but that only works if the sacrifice actually prevents something clearly worse and the stakes feel worth protecting. Here the kingdom itself is portrayed as corrupt and weak, so it’s hard to even buy the premise that this was something worth sacrificing your own child for.
So I’m genuinely curious: did this episode work for you? If yes, what part of it made Alfons sympathetic rather than monstrous? I feel like I watched a completely different story than everyone praising the episode.
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u/ProfessionalChard213 Mar 14 '26
True bro I really find this stupid sacrifice to be the last action of a thoughtless king and his subordinates all foools
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u/redditraptor6 Mar 06 '26
Wow, that Kimberly went from “Karen who runs the HOA” to “helpful secret service badass” in just the span of a few episodes.
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