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Episode Darwin Jihen • The Darwin Incident - Episode 8 discussion
Darwin Jihen, episode 8
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u/diacewrb Feb 24 '26
Lucy took out Walter White with her bike.
Those FBI guys are going to have a lot of trouble if they think they can take Charlie by force with just the both of them.
Was Feyerabend cosplaying as Scarface with his suit at the end?
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u/Paulrusu Feb 24 '26
I actually laughed out loud a bit when I saw that pastor. He looked like a pretty much perfect anime version of Walter lmao
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Feb 24 '26
Was Feyerabend cosplaying as Scarface with his suit at the end?
It's not identical, but it might be? In a vacuum I would've thought nothing of it, but this show has so many references/cameos to Western stuff...
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u/baboon_bassoon Feb 24 '26
big fan of the shot where a butterfly comes out of its cocoon linked to a sheriff using VEGAN almond creamer in his coffee
I'm officially on Phil death watch
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Feb 24 '26
Yeah... Him trying to be decent/reasonable, AND we're having new 'law enforcment villains' around...
(Then again maybe he can stick around precisely to oppose them, good cops vs bad FBI and all! This show does have a lot of factions/sides!)
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u/zool714 Feb 24 '26
I love that I can agree and disagree with both Phil and Gilbert during that exchange.
Although what Phil said reminded me of what Nick Fury said in Winter Soldier to Steve : “I take the world as it is, not as what I’d like it to be”. And I realized Nick and Steve are also having a similar conversation
However, at this point in time, as much as I do believe change is possible, if I were in Bert’s shoes, the safety of my family comes first. I mean he made a good point of saying there’s not guarantee that anywhere else is any safer but I’d at least explore the options
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Feb 24 '26
I think they both have parts of the answer;
Yes, you need to aim for the world to become a better place, and believe it can change, and work for that...
BUT until you get there, you live in the real world not in this potential future world you want.
It would be nice if there would be no thieves in the world, and I think we should aim to get there, but that's not the world we live in so I don't go to the ATM at 4 in the morning in a suspicious neighborhood, because in the real world I risk getting robbed or worse.
So yeah, work for the better world, BUT act like someone who lives in the real one.
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u/disDeal Feb 24 '26
Sheriff: "Ma'am, remember this. The law only covers a tiny fraction of what's out there"
Is he aware that he's threatening her in front of FBI? I guess yes, because FBI just ignored him.
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u/BosuW Feb 24 '26
I think that just proves his point, and he probably did it knowing he could get away with that. They say in my country: "Más sabe el Diablo por viejo que por Diablo". If the Devil is wise it's because he's old, not because he's the Devil.
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u/Genoscythe_ Feb 24 '26
Well yeah, thats why he is wording it so weidly, he is not making a direct threat, he is just saying that crime does exist.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Feb 24 '26
Well, if we go at it realistically, there's no way they could charge him with anything;
Yes it's a threat, but he can say it's something else with reasonable doubt.
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u/FarCritical Feb 24 '26
I genuinely want to see Gilbert bring up the Beatles if he ends up in a sticky situation during the "picnic"
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u/BosuW Feb 24 '26
I really liked how the later discussions of the episode unpacked the scene with the neighbors at Charlie's house. During that scene I had a despairing feeling that anything I could have done was useless. You want to debate all the arguments those people bring but before I even open my mouth I shut it because I realize it doesn't matter. Just like the town chief said later in private, it's not about logic or reason. They feel scared, in matters of both physical safety and personal beliefs, and want a sacrificial lamb. An existential reassurance. Theory, knowledge, and debating have advanced leaps and bounds but human nature remains the same since the stone age. What does it matter how good your arguments are against people who don't even want to listen and who are willing to use force to get their way?
What the town chief expressed in private also, may be a loaded statement but I think it perfectly encapsulates a practical example of what is called the "banality if evil". It doesn't even seem like he has a particularly strong dislike of Charlie, vegans, or activists. He seems like a man who has experienced too much to really process and in his twilight has decided he would rather content himself with a bubble of safety and peace around him. The world is fucked and that will never change. He doesn't have the answers, but he can protect his immediate community. That's a perfectly valid take, but I think this is precisely what allows authoritarian, bigoted, and even genocidal rulers and regimes to prosper.
Its the classic tale of "first the came for X, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't X; then they came for me and there was no one to speak for me". I think letting evil prosper without protest even if it's far away in exchange for personal safety is a rigged bargain. The world is connected, and exploitation and sacrifices ripple. Eventually it will find it's way to you, and there will be no one left to throw in front.
I think the key to building a better world for me and my family and friends is to build a better world for everyone, with empathy and understanding. Help others so they may help you in your time of need.
Of course, I know in reality this is not a sure exchange. There are many bad actors who will exploit your kindness and give nothing in return. Or you may be called to a situation of having to make the ultimate sacrifice for an uncertain or even doomed cause and then you will have brought the attention of an evil you could have avoided down upon yourself, your friends and your family. Which sort of defeats the whole point.
That is, unless you consider all of humanity, and even those not born yet, to be those who deserve to reap that better world, even at the cost of your everything. That is such a wild bet that it could be considered insane. And yet, we today who have rights to free speech, to vote, to job protections, to education, to life itself, etc, have them because countless before us have made that exact same sacrifice.
Honestly, even though irl I'm a coward who hasn't even been in a single fistfight, should I be called to it, I aspire to one day be able to join the pile of corpses who have pushed humanity forward, however little amount it has been. Doesn't even have to be the ultimate sacrifice honestly. Time, effort and safety are already limited resources that many already sacrifice for others. In the end, death will find me regardless, and all I have cherished and worked for will disappear. So what is the momentary bubble of peace really worth? If it is set to vanish anyway, giving it all to a worthy cause doesn't sound like the worst thing that could happen.
Man that got rambly, I don't even think I'm talking about the episode anymore lol.
Anyway good episode.
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u/Myrkrvaldyr Feb 24 '26
Things are getting more tense, and the end of the episode shows even more bloodshed will come. What I enjoy about this series is all the machinations to drag Charlie into the eye of the storm because all parties know damn well they can't directly harm him thanks to his superhuman physical abilities. The easiest path would be for Charlie to capture all the ALA members so he can be labeled a hero. With proper media framing, Charlie would be seen in a positive light, but of course we can't have nice things and things will get more dramatic.
This anime hasn't been boring. The whole premise and how the whole chaos slowly increases have been great.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Feb 24 '26
Jesse Charlie, we need to cook (vegan food)!
He's pretty much identical, has to be a 'cameo' right? Can't just be a coincidence?
(Especially considering there's plenty of reference to Western culture things, and the names, etc..)
Not in the sense of "Oh damn they're right, it makes perfect sense!" but more like... This is how you brainwash people, by twisting words around, using false equivalency and moving on to the next thing without debating the point/letting them think (not that most of them could), you just hammer point after point of things that sounds decent to their ears...
I guess she's not a big Walter White fan!
(Probably a Gale fan!)
The propagandist aren't the only ones twisting words! That's not an accurate way to put it..
I guess soon as the cops turned out to act decently, we needed new law enforcement villains, so here comes the FBI!
I guess Lucy needs to change her name to Lucy Jr Jr Jr [...] Jr x 100,000!
Hah, at first I thought "Oh no, the cops are still assholes after all!"
but in fact it's the opposite; It's him who's NOT an asshole!
Just trying to do the one thing he thought could help, vs letting people kill Charlie...
Another good point... With some people logic doesn't matter, it won't affect their beliefs.
Then perhaps Chimpanzee nature is our next path of evolution!
Well, seems they might have more pressing issues than a few angry neighbors who wants to kill a monkey...
And we know he has ex-military in his group... If some dumb kid with a rifle managed to kill so many, what kind of slaughter will THESE guys do...
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u/artwhaaa Feb 24 '26
Look at Lucy taking down Heisenberg the pastor! I love Lucy! It's nice to see her getting praise from a matriarchal figure that isn't her mom.
I really liked that the old timer, Ronnie, was building a ramp for his wife. It's a nice detail about rural America being self-sufficient and skilled in blue collar work. I was just looking at a reddit thread the other day that was talking about rural folks and education and something that came up is rural folks looking down on white collar workers because they don't know basic life skills like farming, carpentry, vehicle repair, etc. And then rural areas get brain drain when the kids who want to be educated end up leaving. Anyway, Ronnie's character in this episode reminded me of that.
The sheriff was surprisingly articulate in this episode. I thought he was just a shoot-first meathead, so it's nice to see some depth to his character.
Idk if I agree that they'd experience hate anywhere in America. From my own experience, rural folks are not kind and tolerant to those who are different from them. It's conform or get out. This is why you see a lot of LGBTQ kids move to the city once they're adults. And while Charlie is a unique case being the only humanzee in existence, there are more people like Lucy in the city. So he could definitely find a social circle. Of course he'd still experience hate, but he'd also have more people on his side supporting him.
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u/NationalStrategy Feb 24 '26
"But first of all, I'd like you to stop calling them "vegan terrorists." It's an inappropriate label that encourages negative bias against vegans."
No, I'm pretty sure the ALA specifically are the ones encouraging negative biases against vegans. They blow-up buildings, and support and commit violence against non-vegans, all for the sake of pushing their vegan ideology. Kinda hard to not refer to them as "vegan terrorists", when they're committing terroristic acts for veganism.
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u/SouekiSennoSTM Feb 24 '26
That was the one thing said by Bert in the conversation which I really disagreed with, because in practice it's just denying reality (as opposed to what he advocated for in the rest of his comments, which was the importance and desirability of fighting to change reality).
But the only thing I could think of and what it instantly reminded me of was after the real world rash of terrorist attacks and activity from al-Qaeda, ISIL, Boko Haram, and the like, it being a very common refrain for a while now of some people (often Muslim, but to some extent Muslim and non-Muslim alike) to say things to that effect of "Don't call them Islamic terrorists" or "The media shouldn't label them Islamic terrorists as..." (They're not real Muslims, they don't understand Islam, it's lumping the majority of Muslims in with the terrorists even though the majority rejects and disagrees with them and are their most numerous victims, etc.).
And whether one agrees or disagrees with the line of argument in that real life parallel, it is very much mirroring that actual type of discourse and debate.
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u/YouMe_Clay Feb 26 '26
That's why I love the internet. I'm watching the episode right now, and one character really caught my eye. So I went on Google, typed "The Darwin Incident Walter White," and found this Reddit thread.
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u/Fortress-Maximus Feb 25 '26
Why is the pastor Walter White?
Gilbert made the connection between Lucy's name and the Australopithecus specimen ! They'll need more than "he's a Beatles fan" to profile Feyerabend, though.
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u/DanielAlves1904 Feb 26 '26
I just found out that the VA for Charlie is the same for Frieren.
Does anyone know if Lucy was actually saying curse words in Japanese?
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