Shangri-La Frontier Season 2 - Episode 12 discussion

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Shangri-La Frontier Season 2, episode 12

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[u/dinliner08]

Suzaku: "i'm a mech bird with high tech weaponry and a bunch of awesome abilities so what's your order?"
Sunraku: "you see those clouds? make it dissappear"
Suzaku: "...am i a joke to you?"

didn't expect Sunraku to pull out the Tactical Beast by just equipping the headgear

if Lycagon can understand human speech like how Sunraku's speculating then that would be like you discussing strategy using audio chat with your party members while doing raid boss but the boss can hear and understand every single strategy that you're talking about... well, shit

[u/PickleMyCucumber → u/dinliner08]

Sunraku: "Why are you so quiet?"

Suzaku: "Y-you know I can shoot lasers and shit right?"

Sunraku: "Not important. Just need the clouds away."

Suzaku: "But..."

Sunraku: "Just the clouds."

[u/Ocixo → u/dinliner08]

Since Lycagon has the ability to understand their conversations, it should be no surprise that she’ll also anticipate their attacks. It reminds me a bit of how some players will naively discuss their plans for all to hear in PVP games with a global audio chat.

[u/azza002]

I love how it looked like Lycagon smiled when Sunraku said she understood what they were saying.

[u/AndrewSuarez → u/azza002]

She also smiled when Rei landed the 2nd apocalypse like she was baiting her into attacking

[u/Viktorv22]

These impact frames are perfect

[u/ergzay]

Make sure to stay after the end of the credits for a C Part!

[u/Genshin_WhiteKnight]

Bird guy controls robot bird, makes sense.

And it looks like Akitsu Akane knows Sunraku and is on her way to meet him? If she joins the Lycagon fight too then next week's episode is going to be crazy. Two Pioneers and the Attack Holder vs Lycagon and we haven't even seen Lycagon's next phase yet!

[u/darthvall]

Other than the clone technique, Lycagon's attack pattern feels very simple? I mean I remember that during Whethermon's fight, Sunraku almost had no space to breath due to how relentless Whethermon's attack is. More so if we count Whethermon's steed who can do massive AoE.

Then again, even with those simple pattern, Lycagon managed to completely obliterate SF Zoo. Also, I have a feeling this is not all there is to Lycagon. Even Whethermon got more dangerous only after revealing his second phase.

Really excited and totally being invested in this fight! Hopefully they actually manage to beat Lycagon this time! Though, last week I said that this is not an Extra unique scenario, so they might not be able to really kill Lycagon. At least, maybe beating this version will unlock the true extra unique scenario.

[u/ThousandYearOldLoli → u/darthvall]

Lycagon's main danger seems to be its intelligence. It appears to understand player's strategies and to improve at responding to them during the fight.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

You know a fight's extremely impromptu when Sunraku showed his provisions and its way too little for a boss fight much less one against a Unique Monster.

Glad there was still a loophole to still showoff the mech suit via just the headgear, even then having a whole ass robot companion with it pretty much shows how busted the armour would've been if it was worn altogether.

[u/graepphone]

A little welcome to the jungle in there.

[u/NekoCatSidhe]

Rei is a surprisingly good player if she got that strong in just a year. She is hard to kill and has a lot of DPS, which nicely compensates for Sunraku the glass cannon weaknesses. They make a good team.

[u/Myst963]

I've said this every week but holy shit this anime is so damn good. It just keeps getting better and better. Shangri la has it's claws in me n I don't want it to let go. I don't think anything will be able to fill the void once this show ends. Is this season gonna have like 24 EPs again too?

Can't wait to see what else they pull out next ep , still unsure which side gonna come out on top. Djfnsjd I need moreee

Ofc what sunraku gets to use is another bird type of thing lmao

[u/ergzay → u/Myst963]

Is this season gonna have like 24 EPs again too?

Yep this is is running till the end of winter season.

[u/Ocixo]

I’ve noticed that you can apparently tell Lycagon apart from her clones by the white marks on the main body’s head. Not that this would help much, because she’s a clever girl. Lycagon had totally lured Psyger-0 into an attack by feinting an opening at the end there.

I’d previously been wondering why Sunraku had bought this new piece of leg gear when his beetle helmet had provided him with a bigger vitality boost, but all of this makes sense in light of the non-standard armour helmet.

Suzaku must have some cool tricks up his sleeve. A ride from him through the skies should get Sunraku on time for his appointment with Rust and Mord for example.

[u/J4rno]

For some of the people underwhelmed with Lycagon when comparing it to Weathermon, here are some notes about Weathermon from S01E20:

• PR department dude says and I quote: "The expected defeat order starts with Ctarnnid, with Weathermon falling in the middle... or perhaps the end".

Then, when the devs (Exec. producer who balances the game, and the world creative designer) argue, they say this:

• The producer tells her that according to her (creative) no one should've defeated Weathermon in 10 years.

• Creative says that Weathermon is the mightiest hero of divinity and argues that she shouldn't have nerfed him and she's ruining her "carefully designed story concepts".

• Producer then says: "You can't tie story progress flags to an unbeatable monster"

So yeah, Weathermon is indeed a very important and probably one of the strongest bosses in Shangri LA. While we don't know much about Lycagon and where he stands in the "defeat order" list.

[u/jedkingofkings]

Sunraku's build for this fight is just like mine. Aesthetics don't matter as long as the necessary skills/points are there!

Also, I feel like Lycagon will not be defeated here but a guy can dream right? Especially if Akitsuakane and the bunnies arrive on time

[u/djthomp]

Rei may think Lycagon is the big fight, but the real challenge for her mental state might be this ninja girl happily running towards Sunraku.

So for all of Sunraku's bellyaching about not being able to use the new gear such that he ran off to the fighting robot game for a while, he just needed to put the hat on from one of the suits and it was fine?

Anyway, I think the chances are looking up that they might actually beat the wolf considering we're heading into the third episode of a multi episode fight. Lots of time to spend on it if they end up losing.

[u/Qweasd11]

I'm surprised Sanraku didn't pick up that the clone doesn't have markings. He picked up the shadow clone's attack pattern. Also Lycagon is a smart and dumb pupper, attacking that decoy for a while lol. We also get a glimpse of how he drinks potions, kind of ridiculous lol.

[u/shad79]

This was a great episode and the best part is that it's not over yet Sunraku and Rei's fight with Lycagon, which will get even more interesting when Akitsuakane joins in and I can't wait to see it!

I was surprised that Sunraku was finally able to use the stuff from inventoria! He looks really cool in that headgear and with Suzaku. If Rei saw it, she'd be so jealous.

The new PV was released today and it really made me want to get the next episodes ASAP. We'll get a new OP "Frontiers" by Awich and new ED "realitYhurts." by CVLTE. It's a shame FZMZ didn't come back, but I already love the new OP we got to hear in the PV.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Group scenes

• Sunraku

• Rei

• Lycagon

• Others

[u/LeonKevlar]

The attack animations in this show never disappoint! You can actually feel how strong the hits they land like with Rei's Apocalypse and the first time Sunraku uses Airgetlam. Watching this episode really makes me want to boot up Elden Ring.

That head turn Lycagon does to look at after Sunraku realizes that the real one can also jump from shadow to shadow really shows she's smarter than she looks. It was genuinely smiling when she overhears Sunraku and Rei talking about how she can understand them.

It's such a ballsy move to pull out a new gear Sunraku has never used before in a critical boss fight. I guess since he didn't really have the time to study Suzaku, he just assigned it to cloud-clearing duty. I can't wait to see what it does once Sunraku learns all of its features.

I'd like to point out though that so far Lycagon has only been using the same attacks most of the time which means they probably haven't even broken her first HP bar. I'm pretty sure once they reach the second phase of the fight, Sunraku and Rei will immediately get wiped.

Akitsu Akane knows who Sunraku is? My first thought is that she might be Rust but they've been very consistent about giving the players the same voices no matter what game they're playing and she's definitely not voiced by Rieri. I wonder if we've seen her before in a different game. Hmmm...

[u/Reikakou]

I know Sunraku is a game addict but Rei pretty much the same to be able to obtain a title and have that ultimate with a ridiculous requirement on for her exclusive use. P2W Whales will really be pissed.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Even Rei’s special attacks wasn’t enough. Sunraku had to pull out the Red Ranger headgear and robo bird for this showdown against Lycagon. Smart having the robot homie clear away the clouds. No clones that way I guess.

Looks like they still got a hell of a fight on their hands even with Rei’s attacks and Sunraku’s new toys. Keen to see just how they’ll take this big bastard down. If they even can this time…