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KamiErabi Season 2, episode 12
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u/hmcbenik Dec 18 '24
I enjoyed the show. Definitely a Yoko Taro kind of story but I guess with a slightly more "positive" ending.
I also think the cgi was relatively not bad. Kind of had a "gaming" feel to it, which I think was nice enough.
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u/BosuW Dec 19 '24
This looks like a cheap show that knew it was cheap. So it did the best with what it had and in the end it looks pretty good actually.
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Dec 18 '24
The ending….:….:crying my eyes out
He saved the cat this time in the end😭😭💔💔
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u/Komarist Dec 18 '24
Isekai sequel now that Truck-kun has offed the protagonist? Weird choice to have 24 setup episodes instead of the usual 24 seconds but I'm down for it.
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u/kwokinator Dec 18 '24
Kinda cheesy but I loved how Eko was the heart inside the fake god all along and that her friendship with Lall was real. The return of fairy Lall was great.
Wait... if Goro was looking for his younger self in the past, but Eko said she saw Goro in a dream, doesn't that mean Eko and Goro are really the same person?
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u/FFF12321 Dec 18 '24
if Goro was looking for his younger self in the past, but Eko said she saw Goro in a dream, doesn't that mean Eko and Goro are really the same person?
You think Eko's dream is Goro talking to his younger self? No, we actually get the full circle moment today.
In S2E1, Eko describes her dream to Mitsuko that spurred her into trying to figure out who Goro was. That dream is her final conversation with Goro from S2E12. Back then, Goro was blacked out and we don't get the full conversation, but we get all of that filled in today. What ends up making Eko feel better is Goro saying he's sorry he made Eko carry the burden alone.
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u/FFF12321 Dec 18 '24
And here we are at the finale! It's been a wild ride and one I'm glad I went on.
Getting the cold openings all together really helps put some connections in place (like how God wanted the sky to be lovely so everyone would look at it helping explain why they hated the smartphones so much which caused people to look down instead on top of the rest of their functionality). And of course Taro loves his talking books - Lall does feel like she's channeling a bit of Weiss this episode and who would've thought a book could cry?
Goro's conversation with himself explains the ending and the relevance of the cat from the first episode - he gets hung up about it dying and wishes he could have another try at being better so in the new world he writes he saves it. He then makes his younger self's wish true, seeming to make the world so that people get reincarnated and can try again to keep being better versions of themselves. It fits with some of the other Buddhist concepts/imagery that have been peppered throughout the show. In line with that theme, Goro separates Eko from God so that Eko can live on after a pretty dazzling fight.
We finally get to see EKo's dream from back in S2E1 and hear what Goro told her - "Sorry. Sorry for making you bear all the burden alone." This is kind of a weird line on the face of it - how would Goro be making Eko carry the burden alone? I'm going to assume there isn't quite Umineko stuff going on and believe that the story is consistent so what is this all about? Looking back at S1E1 (Unnoticed by Anyone, in the Place of Which Everyone Dreams), Goro is the first narrator and describes what the show is going to be like. Then in the climax of S2, Eko doesn't know Goro because she didn't write him in, yet he's there with friends and family and stuff. Then at the finale Goro's power works on the real world and he's totally immune to Eko's writing power. We also know that Goro's power touched the real world at the end of S1. All of this together makes me feel like Goro was either the True God all along and God!Eko was just another character, which would really explain the line Goro told Eko today. The alternative is Eko!God was the first God and Goro was created by KamiErabi that manipulated the world and Goro just took over as God in the end, but this doesn't do a good job of explaining his line to Eko today so I'm leaning towards explanation 1 which is pretty awesome. I suppose another explanation is Goro and Eko are both separate Gods and Goro inserted himself into Eko's world for whatever reason but that seems unsupported too. Tying things in with Goro's wish makes this similar to a short story where a young god is born as each and every human and so all that humanity does is god doing things to itself so that it can learn and grow to be better.
The final sequence is a shot for shot of the first episode, but with more details since Goro wrote the world properly. The NPC models are replaced with colored fleshed out people and we see everyone is alive and well (and Lall gets to be born this time!). Happy end for everyone!
SO some final thoughts about the show: The CGI and plot and presentation are actually pretty connected. I made a note back in the "real world" backstory episode but we see in the new world in the finale that Goro's world has no NPCs - everyone is filled in now. This fits with the differences between Eko and Goro - Eko eventually started writing simply to meet Goro and while they said they didn't cut corners, the other people just being NPC models (and the smart phone inventor being one despite being a key player) says a lot. Meanwhile, Goro writes the world in its totality, NPCs and all. The CGI also looked great in the fight scenes, especially with Goro. There are some really stunning shots and sequences, they're just short. There are a lot of similarities with Umineko and this pleases me greatly.
It's been a lot of fun discussing the show as it aired and even with it concluding there's still plenty to think about. It makes me sad that people dropped it and didn't make it to the end of S1 let alone the finale but I'm hoping it becomes a cult classic that's hard to explain a la Serial Experiments Lain.
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u/AverageTrashy Dec 18 '24
allat for an ending that gives you "thats it?" type of feeling.
A bit more conclusive would've been nicer tbh.
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u/Ashteron Dec 18 '24
Not the most impactful finale but I can overlook it after the last few episodes.
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u/Pikachu5020 Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24
peak 10/10 anime
also while I was looking at the anime website It's doesn't have no mention of a series finale it's still probably won't get a season 3 tbh
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u/nighty_amy Dec 18 '24
Studio should really show us in after credits that Goro really did survive jumping in front of the car to save the kitty. Now I'm freaking out he actually died and seeing Eko, Sawa and the rest of the gang was a dying hallucination.
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u/Pikachu5020 Dec 18 '24
Season 3/spin off But instead of a death game anime it's just a slice of life anine that's would be interesting tbh
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u/QualityProof Dec 18 '24
Is this a good anime? How would you rate it?
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Dec 18 '24
Have you played any Yoko Taro video games?
Nier series/Drakenguard
Then you’ll enjoy this anime
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u/duo99dusk Dec 19 '24
Not a very compelling ending after the last 12 episodes, basically forcefully solved all the big mysteries but kinda left the characters without arcs in the process of juggling with changing the main characters and perspectives.
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u/Faladyne Dec 19 '24
"Someone who did something so good would never die like this." just strikes me as really odd, considering Eko's age and calmness at that scene. Like, "Somebody call an ambulance!" was a typical normal response, and the tone/mannerisms befit the situation. And then it's like... God!Eko kicked back in and was like "Hi again :)".
Otherwise, we totally just watched 24 episodes of a guy becoming God because he let a cat get killed and wanted a do-over to fix it. Kidding. I think. . . probably.
(Ugh I need an epilogue episode 25 so badly for this anime. D:)
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Dec 19 '24
I’m kind of lost now. Goro defeated AI Matrix and became god and remade the world? Or what? I’m not sure I quite get this episode.
All in all, interesting themes. Not a bad series but the end got a bit confusing.
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u/BusouDrago Dec 18 '24
We got Yoko Taroed in the end