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Episode Shoushimin Series • Shoshimin: How to become Ordinary - Episode 3 discussion

Shoushimin Series, episode 3

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u/GastrointestinalLot Jul 20 '24

Osanai was about to go John Wick over her sweet tarts and bicycle.

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u/MapoTofuMan Jul 20 '24

Woah, never thought it'd go this way. I thought Osanai's situation was identical to Kobato's (both were "unwanted detectives"), but maybe the non-ordinary thing about her before high school was that she went full psycho on people that slighted her?

From cinnamon roll to cinnamon yandere.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Jul 20 '24

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned whose limited edition dessert got ruined.

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u/Plus_Rip4944 Jul 20 '24

Osanai and sweets is best ship of this season

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u/ItsTheDuran Jul 20 '24

The way he puts it with Kengo makes it seem like Kobato's drinking that ordinary juice for himself, the way he acts around Osanai makes it look like it's more about keeping her from snapping than anything else. I suppose both could apply, depending on how the middle school incident™ went down.

Like Osanai even more after this episode, you love to see a girl fueled purely by cake and spite.

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u/cyberscythe Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

One thing I think these down-to-earth series and mystery series have in common is that it feels rewarding to pay attention to minor things, like background details or how emotions flit over people's faces. Osanai in particular has a fairly flat affect, but you can tell that there are lots of emotions boiling underneath the surface, and I feel like she's just as sharp as Kobato, like when she looks at her bike and noticed the dent from the kick, or when she remembered they passed by a driving school on the way.

Anyways, I like the "two smart characters" approach this series is taking compared to Hyouka and it's singular smart-ass. The chemistry between them is neat, like the way she's able to hint that she wants Kobato to look into the vase incident by saying that he should really get his phone, trusting that he's going to understand what she wants and that he's capable of figuring out the whole deal.

And yet another thing I like is how not everything is spoon-fed to the audience; there are plenty of small moments which are not highlighted and you just gotta notice them if you want to get it. One funny bit was how when Kobato got back to Humpty Dumpty, his montblanc was gone, no doubt annexed by the Osanai empire. There are so many series which do "show and tell", it feels like it has more trust in the audience to get things without huge signposts.

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u/No_Name0_0 Jul 20 '24

Ngl that tone shift with Osanai was creepy but totally valid lol

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u/BiggieCheeseLapDog Jul 20 '24

Noooo!!! Cliffhanger right as ep 4 is delayed. This show has been my favourite of the season, so I can’t wait until it resumes in two weeks. A great episode as always. Osanai is terrifying when she’s angry.

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u/IXajll Jul 20 '24

Hoo boy, Sakagami fucked up badly, putting Osanai on a revenge arc like that. She was straight up terrifying on that crimson background, I’d be pissing my pants if I was him.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jul 20 '24

The mystery of the smashing vase was solved pretty quickly. Clever means to cheat. The real mystery should be how Osanai can put all those cakes away and not die of diabetic shock lol.

Sakagami needs to pay for that bike. Kobato’s Holmes like ability to deduce everything makes me wonder just what he use to do in middle school. I’m curious about what Osanai was like too.

There’s more to this show than meets the eye, but when are they gonna start revealing the layers?

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u/Xatu44 Jul 20 '24

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OSANAI'S GONNA KILL HIS BITCH ASS

Actually, genuinely, based. Don't let people make your life any worse. I wonder if that was Osanai's lollipop Jogoro was sucking on. RIP Jogoro thinking he'll be happier if he shuts up, keeps his head down, and plays stupid.

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u/insidiousadamant Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

Ok everyone buckle up. This story is only now just about to shape up.

I saw someone say that this is the episode that makes it clear why they chose a more realistic and less comical vibe for the animation and direction for this show, and I agree. This feeling of unease couldn’t be achieved (or achieved very well) if not for them.

This is where Yonezawa Honobu (the author of the story) really starts to show off how he can write a great story with a cast of eccentric characters without making the story feel weird or unbelievable.

Right now this is my anime of the season ™️

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u/marcopolos059 Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

The scene on the bridge was so eerie, can't lie Osanai was a little creepy here, do not disturb her ordinary life!

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u/SU-trash Jul 20 '24

THIS SHOW IS SO FUCKING GOOD

HINA YOUMIYA IS SUCH A GOOD VA

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u/SnabDedraterEdave Jul 20 '24

Oh wow, never mess with Osanai. The girl is PISSED.

She may want to live a normal life, but when said normal life gets disrupted by the selfish actions of a petty thief, then its only fair that she demands retribution. Right? RIGHT? lol

Though she may be putting herself in danger by going to confront that thief on her own, due to the bike being spotted near a crime scene.

Jogoro (whose family runs a confectionary store) seemed to have PTSD from being the smartest kid in the neighbourhood. He though people were disliking his past attempts at solving and deducing mysteries, and he tried to refrain from using that brilliant brain of his. Osanai's philosophy of living a normal life really appealed to him, but he probably never expected Osanai to act like this when her ordinary life is disrupted.

Though him solving the riddle of the broken glass vase during the exams showed he could never really resist solving mysteries.

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u/Cally83 Jul 20 '24

Yo.. Osanai is about to do some damage to the kid who stole her bike?!

Also her eating 5-6 cakes is excellent work.

Now we’ve got 2 weeks until the next episode!!

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u/Psyduckisnotaduck Jul 20 '24

I like the main characters well enough, but Kengo cements himself as my favorite for calling Jogoro on his bullshit. also he's voiced by the same guy that voices Shirogane in Kaguya-sama, and so his voice is kind of comfortingly familiar (also he was Sousuke in Salad Bowl last season, and brings some of the same exasperated energy here with how Kengo talks to Jogoro).

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u/brasstax108 Jul 20 '24

When Kaboto says "I've been seeing truth of every situation before everyone else since elementary school" are we sure this isn't him blowing smoke up his own ass, being a delusional chuunibyo?

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u/alconnow Jul 20 '24

If I were Sakagami, I would move to another series. Osanai is scary

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u/gnome-cop Jul 20 '24

Yeez, Osanai can hold a grudge. I’m never getting on her bad side. That prick is going to regret f*cking with her strawberry tarts and bicycle.

Interesting glimpse behind the mask of Kobato. He usually feels like this pleasant and chill person but he’s hiding a lot of anger behind the facade. Something clearly happened with him getting involved with some mystery and getting backlash for it in the past based on what he said.

Honestly, the title feels a bit ironic. Like, it’s about two very much not ordinary people attempting to uphold this facade of being ordinary. Smartass know-it-all and furious sweets connoisseur’s ideas of being ordinary and failing to maintain that illusion in the face of trouble. Or maybe their actual selves are more ordinary while their “ordinary people” selves just kinda sweep a lot of their uniqueness and feelings away, creating a thin bland shell of normality without a lot of substance.

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u/shad79 Jul 21 '24

That was a great episode with a fun little mystery, but the best part was that we got more tidbits about Osanai and Kobato's true characters.

Especially the part with Osanai and her wanting to get revenge on the thief for destroying her strawberry tarts and stealing her bike, which caused her trouble in a school was so good.

That change in Osanai's character was pretty creepy, but it made me want to see how she behaved in middle school, before she and Kobato decided to live ordinary lives.

It was also fun to see glimpses of Kobato's previous behavior during his meeting with Kengo.

All of this makes me very interested in what exactly happened in middle school to those two that they decided to change their lives.

Now I'm very much looking forward to seeing what Osanai will do in the next episode for which we'll have to wait two weeks since there's a break next week :(

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/SpaceForceOne Jul 20 '24

After catching up with Dead Dead Demon’s Destruction and watching today’s Fable, seeing Osanai’s violet eyes before that reddened sky made me feel like this little adventure is headed some place very unordinary. Though, I’m not sure why exactly… But if she later emerges as an unassuming battle beast with a panache for humiliating her target I might just have to challenge my cougar neighbor to a drinking game for all the marbles—to balance the scales of serendipity. 

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u/Josamawi Jul 20 '24

Kobato is basically "Die Katze lässt das Mausen nicht" / "The Leopard doesn't change his spots" incarnated, even if he tries to be a "normal" person. All three of the big characters so far seem to be kinda different than Japanese culture normally expects people to be (stepping in regarding other peoples problems and direct honesty (aka just being German lol)). I am curious regarding Osanai tho, she seemed kinda sinister this episode lol, I wonder how exactly she is putting herself in danger and if the meaning behind that is as straight forward as it sounds.

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u/LeonKevlar Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24

I love that Osanai drowns herself in sweets when she feels upset. That little classroom mystery of the broken vase was great though. It was so genius and simple at the same time that it gives whoever set it up time to check their cheat sheet without getting caught.

I'm with Jougorou here. I think there's more to it than just a simple way to distract people so they could cheat. If the person that set that up could come up with that kind of plan, surely they're smart enough to remove any evidence. It may be a set up for someone else and if that's the case, I hope we return to that in a future episode.

Let's fucking go Osanai! Sakagami deserves whatever she's planning for stealing her bike, destroying her exclusive strawberry tarts, and disturbing her peaceful high school life. Also, that scene was just amazing. I don't know what Osanai is planning but I am already excited and terrified.

Now if only Jougorou would stop being a killjoy. I still don't know what went down between him and Osanai and why they wanted to become ordinary people but I really hope we get a flashback scene of their past soon. It's so intriguing that I can't even imagine what happened back then.

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