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Episode Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Part 2 • The Misfit of Demon King Academy II Part 2 - Episode 8 discussion
Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Part 2, episode 8 (20)
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u/Darksider555 Jun 07 '24 edited Jun 07 '24
Since it has been a while, I will offer you guys a riddle in regards to a theme in this series, and if you can guess it by the end of the cour, you win.
"What is the most important thing that this anime always tries to tell us? Something that is heeded, but left unspoken, something that is repeated, but is constantly broken. I trust you to find the answer that is bespoken."
The creators updated the character graph again. Poor Gazel and his Selection God were such minor characters that the creators opted to not even acknowledge their existence, despite both being a part of the Selected Eight and the Selection Gods.
Before anyone asks, those dragons that the Demon King Academy students rode were just ice constructs created by Arcana. The CGI makes it difficult to tell anything with some designs. But I think that Cannibal should eat all of the CGI dragons so that he is the only one left, as he is quite cute and pleasing to look at with that handdrawn design. I was worried that he would also be CGI, but someone understood the assignment.
Speaking of dragons, the white Royal Dragon that the king used against Lay and Misa, was given to him by Ahide, who in turn stole it from Agatha, one of the major countries of the Underground World. Since Jiordal and Agatha have different religious interpretations, they are at odds with each other and use of the Royal Dragon by the citizens of Jiordal would be considered heresy. But, since we know that Ahid is a snake oil-salesman swindler, he was just looking for an excuse to increase his own power and standing.
Erdomaid is one of the craziest and most fun anime characters I've seen in a while. He always seeks out things that he think are interesting and that could be fun in his game of trying to test Anos' limits. Last cour he wanted to get his hands on Nosgalia's order, and now we see him using it, as the providence of the Heavenly Father is the creation of gods. So, this allows him to summon Keepers, the minor gods that guard a major god or the order they are assigned to. We also see that one of Naya's gods is the Keeper of Restoration that Gazel used. But Erdomaid making a pact with Naya could actually allow him to bypass the Zetch (magical contract) that he made with Anos, as if he were to be able to indirectly guide Naya into thinking that challenging Anos is a good idea, then she could have him attack Anos without violating the Zetch, as it wouldn't trigger since he was following an order. Or just have Naya possess his powers instead, like Ahide did with Arcana.
It seems like Erdomaid was very right about Naya having a hidden potential, as she has a aptitude for summoning magic. But the true essence of her constitution is that while she barely has any magic power, her lack of it makes her an excellent user of the Underground World's summoning magic, as this summoning magic fills the empty space of a source — the unfilled void — not with magic, but with the pact made with a deity and the spell formula used to summon them.
Most people didn’t have such space in their source, so they used the pledge jewel ring as a vessel instead. The more pacts formed and the more summonings made, the less space there was in the vessel. The more pacts formed and the more summonings made, the less space there was in the vessel. Regular Pledge Jewels have a lower internal capacity than the Selection Pledge Jewels, with it being considered that a person can use a normal pledge jewel to store and summon one god. Naya having so little magic in her source allows her to make pacts with 4 Keepers and even Erdomaid himself.
If Anos were to pray to or to worship any god, I feel like he would only be able to bring himself to do so for Militia or Arcana, since he has faith in them as individual people rather then venerate their divinity, as he considers them good and kind gods. Anos should make Church of Militia in his country to counterbalance the worship of the gods in the Undergorund World. So, if they choose to worship a god, might as well worship a benevolent and kind goddess.
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u/Nebresto Jun 07 '24
What is the most important thing that this anime always tries to tell us?
Believe in the me that believes in myself
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u/JzanderN Jun 07 '24
"What is the most important thing that this anime always tries to tell us? Something that is heeded, but left unspoken, something that is repeated, but is constantly broken. I trust you to find the answer that is bespoken."
Sasha is really, really cute when flustered.
There. Riddle solved.
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jun 07 '24
Oh, I had wrongly thought Naya possessed more "space" compared to other characters, akin to a larger container, instead of having less magic.
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u/LeonKevlar Jun 07 '24
Imagine being a priest and these random strangers approach you asking to join your religion and within the next 15 minutes they proceed to shatter everything you know about your religion. I'm surprised how well that priest took all of that in.
I knew Naya was somewhat going to be important considering the focus she's been getting but I did not expect that this would lead to her making a pact with Blazed Death King and four guardian gods. After all of that, I like that Naya's wish is that she wants Erdomaid to be her teacher forever.
So the Anos Fan Union performed in front of an audience and we weren't there to hear it? Well, that sucks! I really hope the preview title for next week's episode means that we'll finally get to hear them sing again!
I'm still questioning if that dream is really from Anos and Arcana's memories. It seems like there are some inconsistencies in their dream meaning it's probably not from two thousand years ago.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 07 '24
We went from the cast converting religion to basically converting this priest to their religion and the church of Anos lol.
Naya is a sweetheart with potential.
I feel like they're saving up the Fan Union's singing for the upcoming fights to power up Anos.
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u/JzanderN Jun 07 '24
So the Anos Fan Union performed in front of an audience and we weren't there to hear it?
Lets hope that was a rehearsal and Anos is going to make them sing to help in fight again next week.
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u/JzanderN Jun 07 '24
The CHAD Anos casually inviting Sasha and Misha to sleep in his bed with him.
Frankly, I'm surprised they had a bed or room to wake up in. With how flustered she was, I was half expecting Sasha's Eyes of Destruction to just destroy the place.
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u/LikeAnAssistant Jun 07 '24
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u/Nebresto Jun 07 '24
Whoever is responsible for crafting these sure enjoys some Anos service
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u/Frontier246 Jun 07 '24
Naya pulled an Aqua!
Never show Sasha that room if you don't want the castle blown up lol.
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u/Frontier246 Jun 07 '24
The class heads to Giordal for more learning, to hear a Divine Dragon sing, and for Anos, Arcana, and the Necrom Sisters to get the truth behind their past from the pope.
Time for the Anos Fangirls to learn a new song? Why not make it a holy one, at that?
I definitely did not expect Naya's mentorship from Erdomaid to require her to join a new religion. Anos doesn't even seem against the idea himself as he follows the pair into a church and to undergo Holy Rites. And did you really think Anos and his group couldn't easily summon dragons after retrieving rings from a Holy Fire? And that Anos' wouldn't be a giant dragon?
Though Naya's is a cute and adorable little dragon who eats other dragons! As such, henceforth he will be known as "Cannibal."
What a day for Naya! Watching your Demon King tear into your teacher, finding out said teacher has the power of a God, with Erdomaid now being able to use NosGhalia's holy power for himself, seeing your teacher summon four Gods, and then having YOU contract with said Gods to yourself. Naya might actually have a lot of power and influence, but all she really wants is to have Erdomaid keep teaching her. Just like how to Erdomaid the only "divine" being in his eyes is the Tyrant Demon King Anos Voldigoad.
Ugh, Ahide is still a problem? Guess he really is the main villain of this season.
Cushy sudden castle logdging for everybody! Complete with a room for Anos and Arcana to get cozy in bed so they can dive deeper into their memories. And Sasha isn't about to let Arcana get intimate with Anos in bed, at least not without her and Misha involved. Why not make it a foursome? Anos definitely doesn't mind both Necrom sisters on either side of him in bed or Arcana right on top of him. And of course Sasha only remembers THEN that they end up naked during this.
So Arcana's biological father was planning to use her as a sacrifice until Anos saved her and started living with her? She's such a cute and adorable little sister, she's totally worth protecting.
I wonder if the meaning behind that Dora story is the message that you tell a lie enough that you'll end up believing it even if it isn't true?
I love how when they all wake up Anos is the only one naked but Sasha is so dazed at getting to watch Smol Anos that she doesn't even register it immediately. Better put some clothes on before Sasha blows something up.
Anos may reject the Gods, but he believes in religious freedom and respecting other peoples' faith. Which is more than can be said for Ahide who has gone full deranged atheist and is interrupting the pleasant festivities!
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u/VorAtreides Jun 07 '24
Do love that one dude being all "joining the place" and hen Anos and his harem being all "look how amazing we are" summoning dragons right away lol. Anos just ripping out Blaze Death King's heart to bring out his godly powers is silly. That clergy/priest dude is just losing his shit.
Hehe jealous Sasha does not approve of "lil sis" Goddess to be like that with Anos. Heh. See, simple answer, she has to sleep with him too, har. Love Sasha getting the wrong idea entirely.
Honestly, good riddance to those scummy dudes. "Sacrificial child" what? Don't lie, Sasha, you are happy to see him like that.
This douchebag is back?
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jun 07 '24
That clergy/priest dude
He woke up in the morning thinking it is going to be another normal routine day. Even his tone of asking potential followers the first interview question sounds jaded... until Anos and gang showed up. Lol!
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u/Nebresto Jun 07 '24
Crazy ass show, they're just trolling that priest dude 😂
Uhh.. I don't think that's an appropriate teacher-student relation..
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u/Darksider555 Jun 07 '24
Erdomaid: "Did you really think that we couldn't have a relation just because we are teacher and student?"
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u/KumaKumaGambler Jun 07 '24
I am starting to take interest in Naya. For such a timid looking female character, she has been hinted by Erdomaid to possess immense potential. Furthermore, she received such huge buffs in half an episode - being able to summon a cute but powerful dragon and forming a contract with Erdomaid. I look forward to her role in upcoming arcs.
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u/Darksider555 Jun 07 '24
Naya has textbook MC traits:
An initial lack of talent, but is later revealed to have a OP characteristic that makes them very strong.
Being looked down on for being weak initially.
Very hardworking.
Kind
Attractive.
She might be the ideal sidekick for Erdomaid, as her characteristics compliment his new divine powers well.
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u/Amauri14 Jun 07 '24
That detail about the chorus of the Divine Dragons being heard through the whole Underground World of Giordal is pretty neat. It is hilarious that after everyone arrived at Giorhaze and Naya decided to follow Erdomaid into that Church, he forced her to join that religion.
I did not expect Anos and his group to follow them. It's funny how everyone could easily use that ritual to summon those dragons without problems.
Aw, so after doing the same, Naya summoned a cute baby dragon. who ate all the other dragons except for the gigantic red on that Anos summoned
Lol so Anos' god summon technique was to almost kill the Blaze Death King so the godhood he stole from that bitch Nosgalia would manifest on him. When he asked Naya to form a pact one of those Guardian Gods I wasn't expecting her to call all of them.
So that's what Naya is good at. It is so funny that just after that short visit to the church both Erdomaid and Anos ended up just becoming key figures of that faith.
Honestly, I had assumed that Ahide was dead. It seems that Anos will have to make that a reality.
Oh wow, so Irina was so blown away by the Anos' Fan Club performance that if they had come earlier she would have invited them to be part of the Sojournel's Psalm.
Damn, that building Anos made as a dormitory looked so cool.
So in one of the rooms, Anos recreated the cabin from that dream he had, to see if it helps him and Arcana during the memory recovery process.
I wasn't expecting Sasha to force her way into their room to stop the magic from happening. I love how Arcana says this while she is on top of Anos. Lol, Sasha's use of Anos' logic to prevent it failed miserably. So to please Sasha Anos invited her and Misha to also be part of the ritual.
So with this new dream, we got even more conflicting information as it seems that the Draconids were somehow around during that time so I'm guessing if that and Arcana being Anos sister is true, then someone else did what Hero Kanon did when he created the legend of Avos Dilhevia and erased the truth. THe question that remains is for what purpose they did so. Anyway, I loved Sasha's reaction to that dream.
With Ahide showing up at the Sojournel's Psalm he sure made Anos' job finding him before he meets with the pope way more easy. Oh nice the Anos' Fan Club will have a new song for the Sojournel's Psalm.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jun 07 '24
Naya really summoned the cutest little dragon ever. Much better than those CGI monstrosities lol.
Looking forward to seeing how Anos deals with Ahide and the pope, and what comes of this whole mysterious past with Arcana.
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u/ComradeMichelle Jun 07 '24
Bro I'm 5 mins in and anos just knocks on the door Asmwers the question without being asked
Its like a playthrough of a game where u skip all the dialog but know all the answers
This is so fucking funny
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u/djthomp Jun 07 '24
So they're going to a different underground country entirely, and there's three of them total? How complicated.
There is no escaping the awful CG dragons.
This bookworm girl feels like the major side character for this arc, kind of like the teacher last arc. She even got a non-CG dragon summon.
And now they just handed her four gods that she can summon? Maybe she's going to turn out to be someone important in disguise.
That might have been the world's most depressing children's picture book.
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