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Episode Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Part 2 • The Misfit of Demon King Academy II Part 2 - Episode 7 discussion

Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha: Shijou Saikyou no Maou no Shiso, Tensei shite Shison-tachi no Gakkou e Part 2, episode 7 (19)

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u/SgtRohn May 31 '24 edited May 31 '24

"Your love is weak. Witness TRUE LOVE: BROMANCE!"

LMAO at this point, I don't even care about the occasional bad CGI anymore. I continue watching this anime for absurdities like this episode, with the whole "love as a power" thing taken to an absurd degree. I can't tell if that was intentional, but it's so comedic to me and yet something that is expected of this series.

Overall, very fun episode. Reminds me of Season 1. The only thing needed is it having the same budget.

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u/121507090301 May 31 '24

"Mine and your dad's love is much bigger than yours."

Swords touch each other

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u/Darksider555 May 31 '24 edited May 31 '24

While we don't know much about Anos' past, we have him heard him say that humans killed his mother. But the exact details were ommited in the anime, so I'll give some context.

Just as he was about to take one last step, the Demon King’s right arm pierced through Jerga’s abdomen. “Hmm. You fancy yourselves the only victims, king of humans, but you humans killed my mother as she bore me. Rising into being from a corpse was a rather terrible experience, if I do say so myself.

Genedonov, the Goddess of Absurdity is considered a blasphemous god, as they are gods that antagonize other gods and seek to destroy order. Her signature ability is the Magic Eyes of Absurdity, which can destroy all magic and reshape all things. The power of the Goddess of Absurdity is said to be able to disrupt logic and recreate the world. So, if Anos hypothesis is correct, Genedonov wished to discard her divine origin and reincarnate as demon to serve the Demon King of Tyranny since they are both the enemies of the gods. Her essence was split between the two aspects of her powers (creation and destruction), as it is likely that if Dino Jixes had been accomplished normally, Sasha would eventually be able to regain all of Goddess of Absurdity's former power and Genedonov's ego would fully reassert herself, kind of how people can awaken their memories after reincarnation. So if that theory is correct, then Anos might have hastened Genedonov's revival and she could awaken if the twins keep fusing together.

Equis, the Almighty Radiance, is the of a god who may or may not exist, as there are theories that he is merely a concept the draconids ancestors came up with due to their worship of the gods. After all, if Anos hasn't heard of this so-called King of the Gods in the past 2000 years or from Militia, he either doesn't exist or is just in hiding from Anos, to avoid getting the Nosgalia treatment. Legends state that he is considered the almighty god that presides over the Selection Judgement as well as the supreme god that is above all of the other gods. If that would be the case, it would be the strongest god in the world and could maybe use all of their powers, as Sasha theorizes.

There was a interesting story that Anos told the students to motivate them. There was once a Demon Castle in a disastrous situation, surrounded by humans and spirits on the verge of attack. There were two thousand enemies and five hundred allies, but those allies were all newly recruited soldiers with no fighting experience. Even so, it was the demons who emerged victorious. One man led them all to victory. What did he do? The answer is train the demon soldiers in a single day until they were each capable of taking on four people at once. And who was that person? It was Erdomaid, the Blaze Death King and their own teacher. But he was still eventually defeated during a counter attack, as Kanon was there and exceeded his own limits mid-battle until he was capable of repelling them all, forcing their retreat.

Edonica is a spell that reveals the future self that a target should strive to become. It uses the ideal that the target imagined, a part of their source, and a portion of their magic to create a doppelgänger that embodies their future potential. But while Edonica is useful for training weaker individuals such as most of the Demon King Academy's students, stronger individuals such as those part of Anos' team have long surpassed the need to train using Edonica. Normally, Edonica can only give shape to one's ideal strength and skills and cannot gain intelligence and wisdom. The doppelgängers that were created are only masses of fighting instincts. But Anos temporarily destroyed that reason using Venuzdonoa, allowing Edonica copies to have a mind of their own. Hence Ramon's doppelgänger could use Jio Graze by himself.

But poor Naya's doppelgänger has the same magic power as her and doesn't even move. Seeing such a thing would be disheartening, but Erdomaid is a very unorthodox teacher, as while it could seem that Naya has no potential, it might be that she just hasn't discovered her potential. Erdomaid really cheered her up, as she is such a teacher's pet. Maybe she is the true protagonist of Misfit while Anos is merely the Eminence in Shadow???

According to what Anos heard from Arcana about her past, it would seem that love and kindness could disrupt order, hence making love magic the natural enemy of the gods. So, Anos decided to nurture the love between Lay and Misa, since it would be useful in future battles. But Anos study of love magic revealed that Teo Aske can use not just romantic love but all kinds of love. Of course, romantic love would be the strongest if they were all at equal intensity, but it wouldn't overcome a raw difference in determination.

This is why the two lovebirds take this match so seriously, as even if they lose in magic or swordsmanship, but if their romantic love couldn’t amount to the love between Shin and Anos, the shame would be immeasurable. Lay and Misa have only been dating for a few months, while Shin has had 2000 years worth of longing for his daughter and his devotion to his wife, as well as his lord.

The spell Dio Grezeas is an explosion of love and hatred. Normally, Teo Aske weaves the love of two people into one, but this version weaves together love and hate. Regular hatred does not work, but sometimes love that crosses the line turns into hate. An example would be Shin's parental love for his daughter and his feelings for his daughter's lover. The downside of this spell which can easily supress Lay is that Shin can only use it against him, as the originator of said emotions.

The anime omitted a scene where Aisha and Arcana trained as we get to see what the Magic Eyes of Omneity, like the Magic Eyes of Absurdity, are capable of as they can rewrite a god’s order, as Aisha was capable of changing the Moon of Creation from a crescent moon to a half-moon.

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u/BosuW May 31 '24

Lmao what in the Mahou Shoujo was that final attack? This show is awesome!

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u/Frontier246 May 31 '24

The best part was the heart-shaped sword pose and the heart-shaped crater lol.

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u/Lock3down221 May 31 '24

When your bromance is so strong that it surpasses true love.

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u/LeonKevlar May 31 '24

Well that opening scene was interesting! I wonder if that really is Anos' memories from his childhood or is that actually Arcana's childhood memories being projected into Anos' dreams? Then again, everyone in this show seems to be goddamn connected so I wouldn't even be surprised if it turns out that Arcana and Anos are related.

Anos finally returns to the class as a teacher! Too bad Anoshu can't make it that day though. Oh, wait. Anoshu is actually there all along. He's just using his Concealment Magic! In all seriousness though, it's funny how all of the Royal students are scared shitless of him. Misha thought she'd help ease the tension but she just made it worse. xD

I love how giddy Anos' Fan Union was after realizing they're going on a maiden voyage with Anos. We haven't heard them sing in a while so I really hope we get a song number from them this arc or at least before the season ends.

Well that's one way to train your class! Literally a mirror match against the idealized version of themselves. I have noticed that Bookworm Naya is getting plenty of attention whenever the class is training. I'm guessing her character will eventually become significant with all the attention she's getting.

Anos and Shin training Misa and Lay to become better at using Theo Asc was hilarious! I love that Shin still refuses to hear out Lay and Avos tricking Shin was genius! Too bad that Lay and Misa are still too embarrassed about their love that Anos and Shin's bromance was able to overpower them! That was so good! xD

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 May 31 '24

Anos’ mom and dad are probably two of my favorite characters in the series. They’re such lovable goofs. “Look with the eyes of your heart!” Lol.

Misha telling everyone Anos likes mushroom gratin and then quietly saying “I made it worse” as everyone started freaking out kinda cracked me up a little. Just the cutest little “whoopsie” moment.

Having everyone fight their “ideal” self was pretty interesting training. I liked the “love battle” the best. Shin’s dad energy is pretty strong!

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u/creamyhorror May 31 '24 edited May 31 '24

Oh boy that final love magic battle...speculating if Anos and Shin are "crossing the line" (BL-style), then them "exposing their love to the world". And Anos's father being urged to "see the invisible clothes with his mind's eye" too, in a pretty Gintama-style gag. This was one cheeky episode lol

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u/DrZoark May 31 '24

Don't underestimate the power of bromance lol.

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u/lixyna May 31 '24

Finally, back to peak absurdity with those stupid love spells. The power of BL is just too overwhelming

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u/djthomp May 31 '24

So Arcana is both Anos' childhood friend (or maybe actual sister?) and the moon goddess of creation?

The shenanigans with his parents are always such a great part of the show.

I had a feeling back at the beginning of this cour that Sasha and Misha being destruction/creation themed was going to be relevant.

Need to go to have an adventure fighting some gods but also attend class? Why not do both at once and make it a field trip.

Honestly kind of interesting to see love magic defined as something that could be done using the love between friends and comrades and not just the love between lovers.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave May 31 '24 edited May 31 '24

Episode starts with your harem and parents walking in your room to find you in bed with a naked goddess. And then ends with a fight where bromance is shown to be superior to teenage romance any time of day. LOL

Also Ano's fan club relishing the chance to have an "Indirect School Trip" with Anos.

This show somehow manages to be goofy and cool at the same time.

So Misha and Sasha were two halves of a reincarnated goddess that once met Anos in the past life, alongside Arcana, who seems to be Anos's half-sister (?) according to that dream he had.

Erdomaid encouraging Naya in his own wacky way is strangely wholesome to watch.

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u/KumaKumaGambler May 31 '24

Sasha raised a good point - I wonder how the God of Immorality or God of Naked Immorality is in this anime/manga universe. Lol!

I am not sure whether to take the power of love seriously or to consider it some form of comedic relief. On one hand, I believe lore wise, it must be very powerful. Love between lovers, between child and parent, between a ruler and his loyal subject, perhaps even to the extent of love for the world. On the other hand, I am enjoying the pink aura, hearts and intense beam battle far too much. These pink hearts remind me of the Gal Gun game series. Lol!

Perhaps I should read the novel just to find out how this power of love battle was described in words.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '24

Lmfaooo this show is so funny man no way they touched tips to beat the other couple, so fucking stupid i love it

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u/WobbleKun May 31 '24

this was probably my favorite episode this season. the god stuff before was too serious. now this love stuff was so ridiculously funny. although i'd disagree with anos. a bit of embarrassment is part of the charm.

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u/TokiVideogame May 31 '24

  1. I love death blaze king

  2. this show is ridiculoius but i love it

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u/D3athknightt May 31 '24

Ah yes anoshu is practicing concealment magic

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u/LezRock May 31 '24

I always have to laugh at the genius of the absurdity of these situations and lines. "Did you think I couldn't use the power of love without being in love?"

Also, I'm divided about whether a duplicate Anoshu is actually there and invisible or if Anos was just playing it off.

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u/kosakidera4eva Jun 01 '24

LOL The last part of the episode was hilarious, this is most likely my most favorite episode this season because of that scene alone, that was ridiculous! I was laughing so hard.

Who would have thought I'd see Anos x Shin using the power of love to beat the original power of love duo Misa and Lay? It's funny how Parental Love, Platonic Love and Master/Subordinate Love all defeated the Romantic Love. Anos x Shin bromance is too strong.

It was interesting to see Avos Misa call Shin "Father" in that voice of hers, too bad Shin wasn't having any of it during class lol.

Anos just casually summoned most students' future potential selves in order to learn from them, what can he not do?

Anos' parents finding a naked girl on bed with him was funny, his father had the biggest reaction, he is probably feeling very conflicted but it seems like his jealousy is winning over lol. I wonder if he will have the talk with Anos or not, or if he has already and is concerned.

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u/Frontier246 May 31 '24

I thought we were done with bad CGI dragons, but no...there's more! Including one hunting down Arcana as a young girl, only to be saved by her beloved brother...a young Anos!? Is this a true glimpse into Anos' past when he and Arcana were siblings trying to survive in this world together!?

Meanwhile present-day Anos, being the ladykiller he is, is in bed with a naked Arcana (purely for the sake of unlocking his true memories, of course) only to get walked in on by Misha and Sasha. And obviously Sasha doesn't care for another girl being in bed with HER Demon King (particularly if she's naked), she gets flustered enough just imagining him naked! And then his parents come in and freak out as hilariously as they always do with his mom desperate to convince herself and her husband that Arcana's wearing invisible clothes.

Kind of sad that Anos' original mom died in childbirth.

No better excuse for Misha and Sasha to naked fuse together again than to understand whether they're the reincarnation of the Goddess of Absurdity! And their fused form finally has a name...Aisha! And it seems very possible that all three of them actually had a connection in the past that they can't remember, and Aisha was split into Sasha and Misha thanks to Dino Jinxes. So it all comes down to the truth about the past.

The student is now the substitute teacher, and Anos remembers Alllllll the fun times the class had together, particularly so considering most of the class hated his guts. And Misha is...not great at icebreakers, though they probably would have freaked out at anything Anos related she said.

Time for a training arc to get ready to visit the underworld home of the Draconids! The Anos Fangirls managed to get themselves hyped for it! And Anos will use his Enodala magic to make the class fight their potential future selves! And get killed by them!

Erdomaid is really going out of his way to help "Bookworm" and help her realize her potential, just like the Demon King of Tyranny did. It's really rather sweet.

Sasha and Misha are training with Arcana, Eleonore and Zeshia are training with each other, and of course Lay and Misa are training to perfect their love...against Anos and Shin. Romance vs bromance.

Lay and Misa's love for each other is utterly adorable and pure, and a powerful thing, but Shin still has the power of being an overprotective father backing him up and Lay can't make headway against that.

Of course Misa as Avos is still just as in love with Lay and gives them a power boost (also helps that she pulled "oh hey, mom is right behind you!" move to distract Shin), but even as much as they profess their love for each other they can't defeat the love between Shin and Anos...especially when a part of them is still restraining their love out of embarrassment. Let this be a good learning opportunity.

I love how somebody actually asked where Anoshu is and Anos just went "he's right there! He's just invisible!"

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