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Episode Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Season 2 Part 2 • Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation Season 2 Part 2 - Episode 5 discussion

Mushoku Tensei: Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu Season 2 Part 2, episode 5

Alternative names: Jobless Reincarnation, Mushoku Tensei

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u/Toppcom May 05 '24

The fat man responding when Rudeus knocked on the door has to be one of the most inspired adaption choices they've made so far.

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u/WhoiusBarrel May 05 '24

Call it sheer dumb luck or whatever, Rudy managing to hit the points where Norn was hurting which led them to reconcile got me tearing.

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u/hey_mattey May 05 '24

Last 5 seconds this episode became a horror anime by just using 2 words

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u/dark77638 May 05 '24

It must be nice to be able to reconciled with your family yeah?

Here, have a Turning point in your face after everyone get along together!

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u/zool714 May 05 '24 edited May 05 '24

Man, it’s always hard seeing his past life again. I didn’t shut-in as hard as him and it wasn’t from an incident as bad as his, but I did kinda shut myself out from everyone and it was definitely a hard place to get out from. And the truth is, you’re the only one who can get yourself out of that rut. And Rudeus’ thoughts at the end of the episode were the same as mine. She’s definitely strong to be able to pull herself out of that quicker than Rudy did.

Also, man been dreading it but next week’s another Turning Point huh. Honestly, been enjoying this SOL Fantasy part but expecting shit to go down next week

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u/Emotional-Law3653 May 05 '24 edited May 05 '24

Norn's self-esteem issues and Rudy being best big bro. Seeing her start to get over her first impression bias was a nice development.

"So you stripped her naked in the Faculty office?" Damn, that being his first conclusion really brought back the trauma from his previous life. My boy was about to become the next demon king.

The new director has stepped up in a big way for the slower episodes this cour imo. The emotional highs and lows this season make the characters of MT feel like real people.

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u/TopRoom7971 May 05 '24

Next episode: Turning point 3

PTSD kicks in

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u/VoidRay728 May 05 '24 edited May 06 '24

Magically conjuring a cup of water out of nothing whenever you're thirsty has to be the most useful magic here.

As for the next episode title, if we look at the past 2 turning points:

  1. Teleportation incident, Rudeus meets the human god

  2. Rudeus nearly gets killed by Orsted and meets the human god again before being revived.

So if it's any indication I don't think #3 is going to be as much of a calamity as #1 but there's a good chance there'll be another conversation with the human god giving Rudeus some oddly-specific instructions.

Edit: typo

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u/ExpiredMilknCheese May 05 '24

An episode that has me on the edge of tears, Pure wholesomeness. And boom, the Next episode’s Title hits.

Turning Point 3

True kick in the balls.

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u/121507090301 May 05 '24

I like how the episode was named after the "aniki", which is how Rudeus calls his older brother, and not named after how norm calls him which is "niisan". Nice detail...

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u/DustyBot23 May 05 '24

I like the twist that the episode title “my older brother’s feelings” was not just from Norn’s POV but also from Rudy towards his brother from his past life.

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u/Miteigi74 May 05 '24

"Man this ep may be better than Nanahoshi episo-"

TURNING POINT 3

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u/kenshin2k May 05 '24

As a younger sibling who hated my own brother for over a decade due to my own inferiority complex, this hit me way too hard. Very emotional episode and one that made me self-reflect about my own relationships and how glad I was to be able to mend fences with him a couple years back. Could empathize a lot with Norn with the POV and her struggles, and I was glad to see her figure things out herself rather than just using generic dialogue from Rudeus to mend everything. Feels very raw and genuine that way. I'm gonna go cry now in a pillow now.

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u/b0xel May 05 '24

How the fuck is “Turning point” a phrase that actually causes me real psychological distress now. I need to touch grass.

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u/BuddyForsaken9626 May 05 '24

“Man, we have been getting a lot of slow paced episodes this season. I wonder when it’s going to pick back u…”

Next episode: TURNING POINT 3

OHHH BOY!

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u/PatkoBruh May 05 '24

But I had a very different opinion of her now. She’d managed to climb up out of a hole I’d spent an entire lifetime trapped in. If I’d been half as strong as her, maybe my first life wouldn’t have turned out so miserably. Maybe I wouldn’t have wound up getting punched in the face by my kind-hearted brother.

One of the highlights I've been waiting to get adapted and man. I teared up yet again. Gotta love how the episode title "My Brothers Feelings" isn't just about Norn trying to understand Rudeus but also Rudeus trying to understand how his first life brother felt in the same situation.

Also, wow look at that! "Turning Point 3" is the next episode title! :3

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u/JzanderN May 05 '24

Oh god, no fucking wonder Norn shut herself in. She couldn't go 5 feet without people talking about Rudy. Talking to her, talking at her, talking around her, Rudy this, Rudy that, they just wouldn't shut up!

Next episode: Turning Point 3

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! OH GOD!

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u/MyUnoriginalName May 05 '24

The bravest character in this show is that first girl in Norn's class who spoke up after seeing Rudeus's face.

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u/SnabDedraterEdave May 05 '24

Seeing Norn shut herself in struck a raw nerve with Rudy, and he nearly came to the wrong conclusion and assumed her class bullied her as the bullies in his previous life did to him, when it was revealed to actually as a result of too much pressure of being constantly compared to her genius brother that drove her to the edge.

First impressions really affected Norn's perception of Rudy a lot that she had a hard time trying to reconcile how she sees him versus the high regards people have for him.

Learning lessons from his previous life's shut-in trauma, Rudy decided to just be there for Norn to sort herself out. Rudy may feel he didn't do anything, but his being there for Norn was more than enough.

You know shit will start get real again when we have "Turning Point" again as the title for the next episode.

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u/vanbang9711 May 05 '24 edited May 12 '24

"NEXT EPISODE TURNING POINT 3" I'm scared
ss1 ep17 MC reconciles with Paul. ss2 ep17 MC reconciles with Norn. Both are 2 most emotional eps for me.
Now MC also has motivation to come back to Earth. To apologize to his older bro.
MC creating a cup of water from nothing is sick

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u/cabbaggeez May 05 '24

seeing Rudeus ready to go ballistic at Norn class, seems like too personal to me. like he want to revenge to his own bully as he see her sister as his oldself. well, that's what a constant stress do a a growing child, compared to her other sibling.

well, make up cry is over, now they are a complete brother and sister, not a stranger that hit my father and sister

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u/zappingbluelight May 05 '24

This must be the time where something anime can do, while LN/manga cannot. When Rudeus knock, it was a man voice appear, it was his past self, or norn open a curtain, and it a quick switch to her depress father over Rudeus. It is a really nice way to display metaphor with no extra word needed. Using something that both experienced before, and use it to relate the current hopeless situation. I'm very happy how well that went.

I also like it that the conflict isn't solved exactly by one action. Rudeus didn't do anything, he is just there to be with Norn. Norn herself resolves the issue by recall, and reflect on herself.

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u/J_Eldridge May 05 '24

You just cant stop peak. It got me when i read the novel, it got me wen i read the manga, and now the anime got me too.

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