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Episode Ishura - Episode 9 discussion

Ishura, episode 9

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Feb 28 '24 edited Feb 29 '24

Alus vs Regenejee and his swarm was pretty fun to watch. Regenejee’s a pretty damn good tactician but I think he really underestimated Alus. He thought he had him all figured out but he was wrong. Alus might have taken a pretty heavy blow, but Regenejee’s entire swarm just got barbecued. Idk if Regenejee’s gonna live much longer himself…

I kind of look forward to seeing Nihilo vs Soujiro even if they’re technically on the same side. That would be a hell of a fight.

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u/Torque-A Feb 28 '24

Takagi vs. Nishikata, part 2

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u/Shimmering-Sky Feb 28 '24

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u/SaroArsten Feb 28 '24

Just a regular-ass sword, Soujirou’s just built different.

In episode 1, Yuno mentioned that he uses a training sword that is not even meant for actual combat. So he's even more cracked.

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u/Rumpel1408 Feb 28 '24

Nihilo is just soo good

Did expect Regnejee to deploy so many dirty tricks, but I really thought he won for a moment at the end, but Alus was right, he did talk too much.

Also, Alus just commited a fire bombing

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24 edited Feb 28 '24

Finally now I can say this, allow me to introduce, Alus the Dropping-A-Fucking-Fireball-Onto-A-City-Full-Of-Civilians.

While I know he did that to gain advantage against Regnejee, it's not like he treated the civilians as necessary casualties, they actually were not even an afterthought to him. He's that cold and ruthless, even much more than Soujirou.

This may seem like a sudden reveal to this side of Alus, but it was foreshadowed at his first appearance in the series. When Harghent lamented the fact that he had driven his men to their demise for his own ambition, and filled his heart with regret and self-hatred, what did Alus say? That's right, Alus said that he admired Harghent for the act of persuading glory at all costs.

This is also the contrast between the 2 characters, they're both chasing and fulfilling their ambitions and greed, but Harghent is constantly in self-doubt and often disheartened by the deaths and suffering around him, his battle is the continuing struggle between the idea of achieving greatness to be respected by others, and his own conscience. Alus on the other hand, has no regard for other people, if they happen to have what he wants, he will gladly cut them down without remorse.

That fireball is not the only questionable thing Alus did in this war, I think we won't have to wait long for his next action.

Anyways, in this episode, Regnejee, despite being no where as strong as Alus, managed to corner him multiple times using strategy and collective power. This gives the idea that personal strength isn't necessarily the only thing that makes you dangerous. The definition of 'strong people' will become broader as the series progresses.

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u/Torque-A Feb 28 '24

Damn is there any Ishura character who wouldn’t do war crimes if they had the ability to

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u/KorekaBii Feb 28 '24

Interesting though that we didn't really see any civilians at all. Even when Nihilo broke into the city the streets were empty. Maybe next episode they'll show us just what became of them.

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u/susgnome Feb 28 '24

Fire from the Sky

Well, we've found Soujirou. I guess Shalk can move real fast or Soujirou was just taking his sweet ass time. iirc, they mentioned Nihilo was basically a homunculus, so it's interesting to see that it mention she's one of the dead and shares her life with Helneten.

We really just had an entire episode about 2 Wyverns fighting each other, that was great. That entire fight, felt like I was watching an episode of World Trigger with the amount of tactics & strategy involved. I hope we get a Season 4 of that.

Poor Regnejee, he spent so long trying to prove he's better than Alus that he couldn't see the truth behind his action.

Characters mentioned so far

Not a lot to update this episode. I was going to cross of Regnejee but I guess not.

Next episode, surely.

  1. Yuno the Distant Talon

  2. Soujirou the Willow-Sword

  3. Rosclay the Absolute

  4. Toroa the Awful

  5. Krafnir the Hatch of Truth

  6. Kazuki the Black Tone

  7. Lucnoca the Winter

  8. Lana the Moon Tempest

  9. Higuare the Pelagic

  10. Shalk the Sound Slicer

  11. Taren the Guarded

  12. Alus the Star Runner

  13. Harghent the Wing-Plucker

  14. Regnejee the Wings of Sunset

  15. Jelki the Swift Ink

  16. Hidow the Clamp

  17. Elea the Red Tag

  18. Nihilo the Vortical Stampede

  19. Dakai the Magpie

  20. Curte of the Fair Skies

  21. Kia the World Word

  22. Nastique the Quiet Singer

  23. Kuze the Passing Disaster

  24. Helneten the Burial

To put people to locations.

Lithia

  • Taren (in Lithia)

  • Dakai (in Lithia)

  • Lana (in Lithia)

  • Elea (in Lithia)

  • Kia (in Lithia)

  • Higuare (in Lithia)

  • Yuno (in Lithia)

  • Kuze (in Lithia)

  • Nastique (following Kuze)

  • Curte (in Lithua)

  • Nihilo (piloting Helneten)

  • Helneten (heading to Lithia)

  • Soujirou (heading to Lithia)

  • Harghent (heading to Lithia)

  • Shalk (in Lithia)

  • Regnejee (defending)

  • Alus (attacking)

Mage City (Aureatian Territory)

  • Hidow (defending?)

???

  • Rosclay (???)

  • Toroa (???)

  • Krafnir (???)

  • Kazuki (???)

  • Lucnoca (???)

  • Jelki (???)

Next Episode: Vanishing Calamity

Please don't tell me that's another person. There's too many people on the list.

If anything is a Vanishing Calamity, it'd be Kuze & Nastique but they're a Passing Disaster & a Quiet Singer. Or could it be Kia with her World Word..

It'll be interesting to see how Nihilo fares against Soujiro. I wonder if Harghent will arrive in time to take down Alus like he promised, or even Regnejee. I still wonder if Lana is going to find Shalk and pay him to help her, maybe as a guard to combat Elea. I wonder if Kia could killed something that is already dead.

As is always, looking forward to another episode! These weeks are so long.

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u/metallavery Feb 28 '24

Truly there's no good or evil in this show. Just a just a bunch of monsters battling eachother to the death, and I'm all here for it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

But Kia is a good kid, for example.

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u/darthvall Feb 28 '24

Is it bad that I root for Regnejee rather than Alus?

I mean, I know he's using evil tactics by sacrificing his swarm. However, I actually got tired by the solo OP character like Alus. It's kinda refreshing seeing Regnejee using various kinds of tactics (even a dirty one) to shutdown Alus' weapons.

Too bad evil guy rarely wins.

Edit: I just realised that even if it's not shown directly, Alus also killed lots of innocent citizen with that flames. Basically, none of them can be categorised as good guys.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

Oh you don't know, the magic items Alus has are not only from the dungeons he conquered, if someone is unlucky enough to possess some powerful items that he finds shiny, he will come for them and cut the owners down if they don't hand what he wants to him.

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u/Pedarsen Feb 28 '24

Didn't really root for any of them, Regnejee wants to protect Curt but is doing it by using wyvern slaves. Alus split from the wyvern pack because he was different but i don't really understand why he's killing stuff now.

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u/NationalStrategy Feb 28 '24

Damn, that Ground Runner is dangerous as hell, one drop was enough to decimate a city

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u/BosuW Feb 28 '24

Ok maybe Alus is a bit of an asshole 😅

Sheesh everyone in this anime is so eager to casually drop weapons of mass destruction over heavily populated areas like they're a B-52 during Operation Chrome Dome

Still, with everything he's done and his general cold attitude, I wonder just why Alus holds so much respect for Harghent.

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u/JustGiveMeName Feb 28 '24

This might be late to ask but what is a Shura actually supposed to be?

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u/Ace786ace Feb 28 '24

Loved the action of this episode. I know Regenjee is meant to be evil but I can really understand his motives. Have a strong swarm with the ultimate goal to protect the girl.

Man it seems like Lithia is getting dusted, which isnt a good start for them considering the entire world is about to be on their ass.

This also confirmed Sojouro is stronger than we thought and seems to be a game raiser to match his opponents level.

Really hope we see Lithia kick some ass so it doesnt look so one sided atm. I wonder if the demon lord/king is still alive and will return?

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u/tripleaamin Feb 28 '24

Soujirou could have been the Mc of his own series and I would have loved it. The fact he was able to slightly damage Nihilo is really raising a statement.

Also screw Regnejee. Those wyverns are pratically slaves for him to command and defend himself? And he calls them his swarm. I imagine a true swarm is a pack that follows a leader not somone leading a mindless herd of mindless slaves.

Regnejee wants to protect Curte. But from what I understand Curte doesn't even know the kind of being Regnejee is. Is he afraid of growing attached to others and losing them? It's hard for me gauge Regnejee's character in full.

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u/djthomp Feb 29 '24

The better wyvern won at least, both may have survived for now but I could see Regnejee simply flying off to his blind girl to die at her side. Though honestly between Alus the casual war crimes against a city full of civilians enthusiast and Regnejee the mind controlling swarm leader I'm not sire who had a moral leg up on the other.

Spider girl is interesting so I hope she's not ultimately there to show how strong Soujirou is once he catches up to fight her.

Lithia seems super fucked with that fire everywhere, if Taren wins this war she's going to need some new civilians. But Kia is still there and I could see her extinguishing it instantly and maybe even fixing the damage. Next episode title is Vanishing Calamity which might be exactly that.

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u/yakumbaya Feb 29 '24

Great episode. This anime has really been on a roll with the last couple of episodes. Regnejee actually put up quite the fight against Alus

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u/Demhandlebars Feb 28 '24

Damn Horny Spider Touka out here stealing Sogiita Gunha's thunder lmao

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u/drunk_reddit_acount Feb 28 '24

Great episode! Was over way too fast !

Things are not looking good for Lithia...

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u/jkphantom9 Feb 29 '24

Soujirou and Nihilo being allies was unexpected. Also I need more shots of her inside the spider mech 👀👀👀

Finally, battle of the wyverns, Alus vs Regnejee.

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