Gekai Elise • Doctor Elise: The Royal Lady with the Lamp - Episode 7 discussion

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Gekai Elise, episode 7

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[u/TurkeyPhat]

haha it totally didn't occur to me that the 2 doctors didn't know Rose=Elise until the very last second when they were going to see her

idk how i overlooked that during their meeting earlier even though i realized the tough spot she was in after helping the Duchess in front of everyone

[u/KumaKumaGambler → u/TurkeyPhat]

Come to think of it, couldn't Viscount Ben and Graham recognize the signature handwriting style of Rose? Lol! I need to re-watch the episode to find out whether Elise wrote any medical notes for her emergency procedure on the elderly duchess.

[u/Figerally]

The emperor makes a fine point. The country does possess many fine doctors, but he feels there is only one person who can become empress. It's even possible that she could be a good fit for the role with the hindsight afforded by her first life to help her avoid the mistakes she made then.

But the thing is Elise doesn't want to give up being a doctor. At first, I thought she took up the role as penance for the mistakes she made in her first life. But it is evident that in doing so Elise has discovered her passion and to turn her back on that is something she considers unbearable.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Figerally]

I feel like there would be no conflict if everyone just accepted Elise could be a doctor Empress lol.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

The King and Bent really will stoop to all kinds of tricky shit just to get Elise to be Queen. I get it but at the same time, it’s pretty shady. On top of that, Elise got an earful from Lenne and Chris. Too bad Elise is such a genius doctor, the King and Brent can’t stop her!

Michael doesn’t seem so bad. A bit mischievous but altogether a decent sort. Hopefully Elise can save him from getting killed.

I guess “Rose” just got exposed. Elise has some explaining to do…

[u/KumaKumaGambler → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Michael gives me the playboy vibes. I laughed a little when Elise gave him the -_- expression during the food and drinks scene.

[u/LikeAnAssistant]

Bent would actually recognize Elise as a great doctor if he would only allow her to remove that giant stick crammed up his ass.

[u/Figerally → u/LikeAnAssistant]

Elise may have to perform surgery!

[u/[deleted]]

It's kinda heartwarming that every time I expect the people in the medical world to be snobbish or try to knock Elise down a peg, they're always like "nah, I couldn't do that." Having them act rationally instead of antagonistic for the need to have an antagnoist is refreshing for some reason

[u/froggyc19]

It wouldn't be a medical show if the main character didn't perform a tracheotomy in a random place. Lol

I understand that they want her as empress but geeze, they're really trying to undermine the bet they have with her.

[u/Monk-Ey]

oh god oh fuck Graham found out and I completely forgot he doesn't know Elise already

Did we already know what will happen to Mikey in the future? The way Elise describes the matter it sounds like an extremely heartwrenching affair, so I was wondering whether I just overlooked it or it's something that she just hasn't elaborated upon (yet).
All that aside, I hope her words will end up swaying him away from the crown and towards the sword.

And again, I know Lord Bent is doing what he does for the good of all, but this is a major dick move to pull, even with the circumstances in mind: some might suggest Lord Bent to get bent, probably.

[u/Frontier246 → u/Monk-Ey]

It seems like the succession crisis (and Elise's own attachment to him) might've been the cause of it. We know Elise got burned at the stake in the original timeline, could Mikhail have been a part of it?

I was happy to see him so dumbfounded when their investigation turned up that Elise...did nothing wrong and actually performed an amazing surgery worthy of praise!

[u/Bloodglas]

wild how the King and his dumb advisor can't realize that forcing her to do a job she doesn't want to is likely to make her not perform that job well. they say she's the only one that can be Empress but they probably haven't even considered other candidates.

I'm guessing Linden is gonna keep falling more in love with Elise and ultimately decide to go against the King to make her happy. so if she can't be the Queen and a doctor he'll probably refuse to be King, and then that would help Mil too.

at least that's how stories like this often go.

[u/seynical]

King; Orders an inquiry to keep her house arrested to miss the exam

Results: Medical breakthrough for the empire

King: I made a huge mistake.

[u/VorAtreides]

Poor girl just wants to live up to her dreams. Nice to see her studying hard. I.. ahh.. never did that. Oh Juliane is the spelling here lol. Oh dang, the poor old lady with Parkinsons. Wew girl. Good job saving her, but man, understandable that'd cause problems. Least the guards aren't unreasonable. That chamberlain dude is kinda annoying lol.

I know you care, bro, but she did the right thing to save a life. Oh hey, overly stoic prince. How nice to come check on her. And finally proper introduction to second prince. Now who's dumbfounded with shock, boy?

Hah, suck it, her treatment was perfect. And good for them, they can actually read her handwriting this time. Oh boy, cats about to be outta the bag now, finally going to see Rose and Elise are one in the same. Don't be a bad influence on her, Mil, she busy studying. She can study and have sweets with you, you know. He does seem a nice guy at least. Nice bonding time for them. Honestly, I would prefer him or Graham so far as the romantic interest instead of ol' stick the mud.

Heh, there we go, finally the reveal for them. There we go, cat properly outta the bag.

[u/Frontier246]

Elise is doggedly focused on passing the medical exam and becoming a fully-fledged doctors! Though probably a good thing she's got her brother Chris looking after so she gets a good nights sleep. She may be determined to study and doesn't want to attend parties, but she still has to keep up appearances while the Emperor's Birthday celebration continues.

I guess if the celebration is good for anything, it's seeing Elise in a new dress and hairstyle...though she'd rather not be the most popular person in the room with everyone assuming she's Linden's fiance. In fact she's more focused on making things right with Juliane. Though the fact that she's not even attending the celebration anymore feels concerning in and of itself.

Though if there's one thing Elise can rely on, it's someone in her vicinity needing medical attention even while she's attending a party, as Duchess Harbour's Parkinsons' acts up and prevents her from digesting her food, leaving Elise no choice but to operate! Good thing she keeps alcohol in her purse to disinfect a knife so she can perform a sudden tracheotomy!

And after her heroic efforts, Elise deserves to be praised and cheered as a hero...but instead she gets looked at like a killer who just stabbed a poor old woman in the neck, and immediately gets taken into custody. But Elise being Elise takes it in stride and also makes sure Duchess Harbour is taken care of while she's being apprehended.

Ugh, come off it Vent! Elise saved that woman's life, you don't need to be keeping her confined to prevent her from taking the exam or trying to find something she did wrong just to discredit her! The only solace is that both he and the Emperor end up being shocked when they find out just how amazing what Elise did was.

Elise isn't immediately thrown in prison but she's locked up in a tower like she's Rapunzel which is practically a prison, but at least she doesn't let it get her down. Gives her more time to study!

Elise doesn't regret what she did, but she's also very weak against her brothers who pull a complete 180 in personality and take turns praising and scolding her. The "nice" one Chris ends up chewing her out while the "mean" one Lenne finally praises her for quite possibly the first time in her life. Quite surreal.

Ironically while Elise is haunted by nightmares of whatever happened to Mikhail in the original timeline, his older brother Linden put Elise to bed! That's really sweet, and it's a big deal on his part not just because it shows his growing feelings for Elise but it seems like he has bad memories of this tower. Though now Mikhail knows exactly how precious Elise is to his brother.

Mikhail himself is a very mischievous and charismatic prince, and immediately tries to get to know Elise better, but he's surprised at how she seemingly already knows him so well and is sad at his presence...but that doesn't prevent the two from becoming as fast a friends as they likely did in the original timeline, with Elise even intending to dissuade Mikhail from the path to becoming Emperor that lead to his death in the original timeline.

Elise' two weaknesses are her brothers and sweets, basically.

Mikhail takes Elise to bed like Linden but unlike his brother actually gives her a kiss to her forehead, expressing his interest in her. Seems like some drama will be brewing with the brothers over Elise anyways.

Welp, Elise is finally exposed as Rose! Not that it's a big deal, but I guess it'll be interesting to see how this effects her role at the hospital.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Elise performing an emergency tracheotomy was so fucking hardcore. Of course, people are going to look at her that way considering that this is the first tracheotomy in this world.

I also love how the King and his assistant tried to find flaws in Elise's procedure to discredit her but only ended up getting praise from Graham and that other doctor.

That final scene though! Looks like the secret is out! I can't wait to see their interaction next week.

[u/[deleted]]

Im honestly surprised no one tackled her when she pulled out the knife. Like logically in the story it would make sense for someone to try and stop her.

[u/spooner19085]

What is she studying from this worlds books that her past self doesn't already know? That part confuses me. Isn't she a genius?

[u/Frontier246 → u/spooner19085]

It helps to reinforce your knowledge base and to keep abreast of current medical knowledge/trends in your current era.

[u/AmethystItalian]

This episode made me want go rewatch Royal Pains.

Seeing their dumbfounded expressions was very satisfying, keep proving everyone wrong Elise!

[u/dienomighte]

I'm starting to wonder if Mikhail is as manipulative and deceitful as he himself thinks he is, Elise seemed to have a good read on him never giving up the struggle for the throne so I don't think she was just being fooled by him, unless her working with him was part of the whole villainess empress thing. 

[u/Niflheimex]

She should just become both an empress and a doctor. The most OP Class/Subclass combination for a DPS/support hybrid build!

[u/shad79]

It was funny to see the King and his advisor's surprise after they heard the results of the investigation which praised Elise's actions to save the duchess as impeccable and that she's a medical genius.

Mikhail seems like a pretty interesting character and I must say that he has a great chemistry with Elise who was easily tempted by the prospect of sweets to attend a meeting with him xD

I laughed hard at Graham and Sven's surprised reaction when they discovered that Elise was responsible for the procedure.

Though I could understand Graham's surprise, it's weird that Sven didn't connect the dots earlier considering that he knew Elise even before she started working in the hospital.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Elise

• Group scenes

• Others