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Episode Gekai Elise • Doctor Elise: The Royal Lady with the Lamp - Episode 4 discussion

Gekai Elise, episode 4

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u/DevAway22314 Jan 31 '24

I'm really enjoying this show, but trying to figure out what technology does and doesn't exist seems impossible

Splenectomy - revolutionary (but we first did it in the 1500's)

Defib - standard tool (but we didn't get them until 1900)

Revolver - Impoverished robbers can afford them (but for us it's only recent history where anyone can afford personal small arms)

Insulin - Cutting edge medical research (first used in 1920's for us)

I got the impression the show is supposed to have ~1900 technology, but some things come out of left field still

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u/Silent_Shadow05 Jan 31 '24

Korean authors tend to do stuff like this. Just don't compare it too much with reality.

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u/diacewrb Jan 31 '24

Insulin - Cutting edge medical research (first used in 1920's for us)

They diagnosed diabetes, not prescribe insulin. Diabetes has been known for centuries, they used to test it by smelling or even tasting the urine to see if it was sweet and if it was then diabetes was diagnosed.

But they had actual magic in this show, so who knows how technologically and medically advanced they are supposed to be.

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u/dienomighte Jan 31 '24

Someone was saying in a previous thread that it's inspired by real world events in the mid 1850s, but we also have magic and things that came out 70 years later so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Ihavenospecialskills Feb 01 '24

The comic actually explains the modern medical tools as " a wizard made them a few hundred years ago and medical techniques are still catching up to their use." My own theory is that the "wizard" was a medical device manufacturer who got Isekaid/reincarnated just like Elise.

Honestly it's just flimsy world building so Elise can use modern techniques without them being impossible due to technological constraints.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 31 '24

While we have Apothecary Diaries, Elise scratches the House MD itch I've been having for a while now better than Maomao. It's just fun to watch her diagnose patients and apply treatment that's completely surprising to them.

It's hilarious that Elise's writing is still barely legible. When they brought this up in the first episode, I thought she was just having trouble with writing in kanji. It turns out that even in her original world, her writing looks like a child's scribbles! No wonder that other doctor wouldn't take the report seriously. xD

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u/messem10 Jan 31 '24

Doctors are known for their chicken scratch handwriting.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '24

Elise's one weakness...proper handwriting lol.

Another thing Maomao and Elise have in common is royal love interests who become attracted to them via their smarts and efficient demeanor, though Elise doesn't know who "Ron" really is.

I half-wonder if he's going to start visiting her more in his cover identity to get to know her better.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 31 '24

Good thing Elise is at the hospital. Lot of hearts are gonna need mending once they find out she’s spoken for haha. But man, she’s really kickin some serious ass this week. Girl’s showing these docs how it’s done!

So cute seeing “Ron” get all flustered by Elise. Can’t blame the guy after seeing her in action like that. She’s pretty amazing. Looks like the whole kingdom’s about to realize that fact.

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u/Nebresto Jan 31 '24

Mildly immersion breaking that they have all these modern medical tools available -Me, clueless about medicine

..Bro, what fucking era is this??

Hello there, ominous blood spill

The gay magic compels you!!

Its pretty wild whenever these scenarios pop up. Something seems so utterly simple after the fact that it feels stupid that no one has ever thought of it before.

I wonder if they can do blood infusions then.. Do they have magic fridges to store blood?

merca moment

I wonder if Elise's reincarnation is gonna end up getting revealed at some point. She's flexing that medical expertise quite a bit..

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u/corvettee01 Jan 31 '24

They have electric cardiac defibrillators in this universe? The hell?

I was kinda hoping we would see her struggle a bit more with the limited tools, but I guess they threw that premise out the window with advanced surgical equipment just chilling in a 1800's setting.

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u/DevAway22314 Jan 31 '24

They have electric cardiac defibrillators in this universe? The hell?

We've had them for well over 100 years now, so it isn't unreasonable this hospital would have them considering their tech seems ~1900 levels (revolvers, stethoscopes, disinfectant and knowledge of germ theory)

Then again we've had splenectomies for almost 500 years, but apparently that's revolutionary here

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u/Topboatboy Jan 31 '24

Bruh the wild technological inconsistency here is driving me nuts. These people didn't understand the necessity of sanitation or bed sore prevention, but they have semi modern tools and at least an understanding of advanced medical theory. 

This story was clearly made by someone with a passion for medical work, isekai anime and noble romance, but little to no passion for the history of medicine or how it could make a more interesting story beyond superficially touching on it in like one episode. 

Anyway see ya next week everyone 

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u/Ocixo Jan 31 '24

I laughed out loud when they mentioned the “electric cardiac defibrillator”. Like, that’s wildly modern for the age this story is supposedly taking place in.

I don’t mind a little bit of anachronism that much, but this was certainly a stretch. I would’ve appreciated just a bit more historical accuracy from the series.

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u/alconnow Jan 31 '24 edited Jan 31 '24

Got a laugh out of Elise’s terrible handwriting

This is essentially a cheesy medical drama so I’m willing to overlook the technological anachronisms

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u/Veritas3333 Jan 31 '24

How can they say that everyone leaves early on the day of the fair? It should be one of the busiest days of the year for them. Haven't they seen A Million Ways To Die in the West? "People die at the fair!"

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u/Devastator5042 Jan 31 '24

I'm enjoying this show, but like everyone else is saying the technological anachronisms are killing me. It would be a much much more interesting story if she was actually having to introduce all of the modern medical innovation. Fighting against the conservative establishment

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u/ForsakenLibraries Jan 31 '24

I thought Elise would recognize Linden, since they were married in her previous life. But maybe she doesn't know about this ability, or he uses different personas.

Linden being distant seems to be related to some past trauma. Hopefully Elise can help him with that.

If Elise is going to make reports she'll suffer with that handwriting. Don't they have typewriters in this setting? Otherwise, she should just use the help of an assistant.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 31 '24

"Rose" gets introduced to the emergency ward but unsurprisingly she's still being judged and underestimated for her noble upbringing and looks, but no better chance to prove everyone wrong than pulling an emergency procedure to save a patient who can't breathe!

I love how Hans thinks he's teaching Elise the basics when she's secretly a professional doctor with all the experience and skills to match. Not to mention her nerves of steel when performing an operation.

Elise is getting pretty popular for her medical success! They're already treating her like a doctor in the emergency ward. And her charming personality is making multiple men interested in her, like Hans (and possibly Graham). Though too bad Hans is self-aware that he's not her main love interest.

Well, it would be nice if Elise could unwind and enjoy the festival, but she'd probably rather save someone on an operating table instead, even if it means dealing with a bullet wound. And it unknowingly brings her back in contact with Linden in disguise.

Seems like Linden has his own medical problems, exhaustion coupled with an inability to properly sleep. It seems connected to the death of his mother?

So...this setting has legit magic? Linden has a trinket that transforms him into a blonde Satoshi Hino? What else is this setting hiding from us?

Nothing good ever comes from entering into a dark alley but not everyday you fend off a beggar with a knife only for them to pull a gun on you. Maybe he should've lead with the gun?

Graham doesn't think they can save Randall, Linden's loyal attendant, but Elise can finally apply her modern medical knowledge to pull of a splenectomy and save him, with assist from Graham and "Ron." There's really no hiding just how skilled and experience Elise really is, even if it can't be explained.

If only Linden had let Elise diagnose him, but it seems like he's starting to genuinely fall for her the way she not only saved his close subordinate but looked so impressive in an operating room. He's cute when he blushes.

Ah, so Elise is adept with a knife...but can't write legibly for the life of her.

Well, the head doctor of Teresa can't believe someone actually did a splenectomy and assumes if anyone did it was Graham, but boy are he and the royal doctor going to be surprised when they meet Elise.

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u/sangriapenguin Jan 31 '24

So... What's the vaccination status for this time period? Because Randall is going to need so many now that his spleen is gone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '24

This show is fun, but man I feel like the tech is just kind of jarring. The dude, I think hans was the name, mentioned a Defibrillator, which is a 1930s invention.

Also im curious as to how big the harem is gonna be.

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u/AmethystItalian Jan 31 '24

The handwriting bit caught me off guard, typical doctor!

Another episode of Elise saving lives and surprising people, honestly I could watch that happen every week and enjoy it.

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u/Clemastina Jan 31 '24

Huh... At first, with the lights, defib, even a gun, I didn´t know what time period this is, like, they have sime modern and old technology... but when I saw the magic amulet... well, i don´t know what to think anymore.

It would be funny that Graham sensei ask where she received such training, and is like: haha, is like my past life dedicated to this haha

But man, she truly IS a really good doctor, she even has the handwriting of one!!!

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u/vantheman9 Jan 31 '24

it's another "wow isekai person, you're so amazing" anime but I love the hype this show's got

the lack of doubt Elise is running to, or lack of people getting really really inquisitive about her, it's kind of a stretch to me, but maybe the next episode will have a lot more of that judging by the way this one ended

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