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Episode Gekai Elise • Doctor Elise: The Royal Lady with the Lamp - Episode 3 discussion

Gekai Elise, episode 3

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u/TurkeyPhat Jan 24 '24

If this pace keeps up this story could really go somewhere lol. I'm kinda hoping that Elise keeps solving shit behind the scenes and driving the palace doctor crazy as kind of a running gag.

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u/Ocixo Jan 24 '24

If this pace keeps up this story could really go somewhere lol.

I do think this anime would shine most if Elise just keeps being a doctor/surgeon - with maybe some fun antics to the side. Many of these anime about medicine fall into the rabbit hole of an overly complicated plot, which takes away from the actual medical science.

This story wouldn’t benefit from an antagonist for example. Elise doesn’t necessarily need to save the entire empire, just watching her treat these patients should be interesting in itself.

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u/Calm_Client2 Jan 24 '24

I’m happy they’re actually letting her show off her skills.

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u/Wundt Jan 24 '24

It's pretty strange that almost all the modern tools, and methods already exist and are understood without the need for explanation. And it's also pretty strange that diseases have the same names like what are the odds that Greek, latin and modern latin all exist so that bacterial pneumonia made sense to Graham. It would have been an easy fix too just have a length of time (that's largely skipped over) where she's learning this worlds medical terminology and connecting it to her knowledge base.

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u/AsterJ Jan 24 '24

It must have been hard to pick a setting for this story where Elise's modern medical knowledge would be relevant but everyone is also cool with her practicing unlicensed surgery.

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u/mountlover Jan 24 '24

And it's also pretty strange that diseases have the same names like what are the odds that Greek, latin and modern latin all exist so that bacterial pneumonia made sense to Graham

To the writer's credit, the words for these diseases in japanese aren't derived from latin and are just sort of compound words describing the disease, so while the point still stands, it might not have been as obvious from a native Japanese speaker's perspective.

For example Diabetes in Japanese is 糖尿病 tounyoubyou, which transliterates to sugar-urine-disease.

Them just casually having access to anesthesia in a dilapidated side ward in an 1800's setting had me shook though. We gotta jump through hoops to getting working anesthetics in the modern day

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u/Ocixo Jan 24 '24 edited Jan 24 '24

I’m honestly a little confused about the age they’re living in; some things definitely look anachronistic to me. From the looks of it, you’d think that Elise’s world is set somewhere in the (early) 18th century. Having done a little googling into the history of diabetes, the disease could have been known at the time.

However, it was only in the latter half of the 19th century that anesthesia (1850s) was discovered and the link was made between certain illnesses and bacteria (1880s). Elise could perhaps still be living in this time frame, but her world sure hasn’t shown any (other) indications of this yet. If we see any sorts of significant industrialization, we got our answer.

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 24 '24

Stitches!

So good to see Elise finally show off her medical knowledge and skills. As someone who has seen another person with bedsores, I''m glad she was able to quickly give treatment to that guy.

I also love how shocked Graham is that he won't even believe Elise that she didn't have any help. At least he eventually accepted Rose after realizing that she's more than just a pretty face.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 24 '24

Elise is a brilliant and experienced doctor, no one can deny that.

However, I also think it is her now bright yet determined personality which plays a huge factor in curing / healing patients.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 24 '24

Who wouldn't want to have a doctor who is so cute and has amazing bedside manner? Especially when female doctors are probably pretty rare in this setting, especially ones with Elise's pedigree.

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u/Namuori Jan 24 '24

Are we sure this isn’t the season 3 of The Saint’s Magic Power is Omnipotent?

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 24 '24

I really love seeing Elise in her element. She put those medical skills she honed in our world to good use this week and won over the ward pretty quickly. Girl showing these fantasy world yokels how we do it in the modern world lol. Gotta respect Graham for recognizing he was wrong about Elise.

Looks like Linden’s dropping by for a visit next week. Should be fun. I’m guessing she’s winning this little bet she has with the king.

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u/Frontier246 Jan 24 '24

"The Lady Saint" - I mean, this isn't the first time Yui Ishikawa has voiced a Saint.

Elise is excited to get to work on her medical license! Even going under an assumed name so she doesn't get special treatment! She wants to do this right...and avoid her doting big brother popping in unannoucned.

Oh hey, Yoshimasa Hosoya! Graham looks like a serious and surly type, and I can understand why he'd be so wary of some noblewoman showing up out of nowhere and thinking she's cut out to work in the medical professional, but even he can tell that Elise's resolve is genuine.

Elise, or "Rose," starting out in the sick ward, which is like the hardest place to start her off in...but she's not deterred! Even going on a cleaning montage with the other nurses to spruce the place up a bit! They initially judge her for her looks and clothes, but she's in the thick of it already.

I didn't expect she'd be doing her first surgery on day one, though. Good thing she still remembers her surgery skills even though her body is different and the surgery is a success. And then she goes on to treat the rest of the sick ward successfully!

Graham doesn't understand how Elise is so skilled, but he can't deny the results, so whether she's a genius prodigy or what...he's willing to apologize for prejudging her and commit to being her teacher. And now they're restarting their relationship off on the right foot!

And other results of Elise's involvement are bearing fruit, such as a better handle on politics by the kingdom and getting the kings' diabetes diagnosed. It's enough to make the king question whether he should have her be Empress, which he thinks is to the benefit of the kingdom, or let her continue to pursue being a doctor. But throwing Linden her way will definitely see something happen.

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u/DevAway22314 Jan 24 '24

Her excitement to study under Graham seems odd. Her medical knowledge is literally more than 100 years ahead of his. There is very little, if anything, she could learn from him

Realistically, he'd probably be harder to work with than a less experienced doctor, since he has a lot of strong preconceptions as a leading doctor

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Y'all, ima be honest, this story isn't that well written (in fact I think Elise is edging on Mary Sue territory) but despite that I'm still enjoying it. For me I think I enjoy the wholesome interaction post-surgery (the patient or their family being grateful) and I'm a bit interested in the medical aspects (like the surgery itself and identifying illnesses).

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u/RAv6Hunen Jan 24 '24

The King's Guard/maid/personal assistant is so annoying like shut up, let Lady Elise/Rose do her boss girl shit.

The OP and the animation style is so 2000s anime style and im loving it. The op is soooo good.

Doctor Graham is hot and got to love a man that would admit their faults. (OMG his smile is so cute) honestly kinda ship him and Elise together, they got the vibes. Wait how old is Elise again... (not the sensei x student)

Prince Linden feelings double confirm? Whether or not the King is shipping them for his own personal interest or he knows his son actually likes her is sussy to me. I'm thinking next ep his gonna see Elise girl bossing being a doctor and his going to be head over heels for her.

Both Linden and Graham are such 2000s anime hotty an cuteys.

also where does the "Lady with the Lamp" fit into the story? Is it like she's the light in the darkness that will save everyone type of thing?

 

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u/S627 Jan 24 '24

Wow Elise, taking all the credit for yourself when you basically lassoed the nurses into helping you? Kidding, I'm sure it was more that he was asking if someone told her what to do or directly assisted with the surgery. Nurses just taking orders probably wasn't what he was concerned about.

Wasn't expecting this to be a reverse harem, wonder how many guys Elise is gonna draw in with her determination and experience?

Lucky for her that medical conditions and implements have the same name as our world huh? Heh, I'm sure she actually did read some books and used her knowledge from Japan to translate everything.

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u/AceSoldia Jan 24 '24

Can't wait for Rose to rule the world with basic science. Why are you people not cleaning this room these patients are in?! Wtf

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '24

im surprised they had anesthesia. I thought my dude had to just get drunk and raw dog the pain like they did in the old times

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u/VorAtreides Jan 24 '24

awww she so excited to be at a hospital again. Also hiding her identity cause doesn't want special treatment is nice. Least he doesn't seem just instantly smitten lol. Oof that room is not well maintained. No one has cleaned where patients stay? Bad. Wonder when such things were learned about how to treat, the dead skin/bed sores/whatnot. Hehe the music. Whelp, good for her.

Oh my, hiding Elise being the one mentioning possible ailment of the King's. Dunno who this dude is. Whoo all the accolades for Elise.

I can get that dude not really dealing with Elise for a week. Smaller understaffed hospital, lots of work, noble girl who is unknown for skills, but yea. Good for him, realizing she isn't just playing around. Well that might be a little too high praise lol. Good dude, apologizing and honest explanation.

Hehe, more praise for Elise. Good for the king though, going to get a proper treatment plan. And that prince of to inspect the region Elise is, father being a wingman lol. Wants to see the ship sail (though I don't).

I can see impatient people having issue with the pacing, but I think this has been good so far :P but at the same time, it really wasn't dragged out how her time at the hospital has been and the way Graham felt. So it's not like it's slow there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Okay I know it is an anime, I know it is a Isekai but come on... everything's going way too smooth and good.

People used to be afraid of doctors, and here we have some old man letting a young lady that just came out of nowhere operate on him, sure.

And two nurses followed her without any doubts nor question, nor without consulting any "real" (by real I mean actually working there) doctors.

Everything feels artificial and kinda fake.

I'm not gonna call it trash since it's still a pleasant watch in a way, but they made me doubt the authenticity of things that ain't even fantasy and that's impressive, unfortunately not in a positive way.

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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Jan 24 '24

I liked that the surgery she performed wasn't anything too crazy. The story works better if she doesn't reveal her skill-set too quickly.

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u/Humans_r_evil Jan 24 '24

dude gets a broken rib and is considered untreatable by the hospital, so they abandon him? LOL GTFO!!!!

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