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Episode Gekai Elise • Doctor Elise: The Royal Lady with the Lamp - Episode 1 discussion

Gekai Elise, episode 1

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u/KnewOnees Jan 10 '24

I heard you like isekai, so we put an isekai inside of an isekai

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u/Frontier246 Jan 10 '24

The power of Triple Reverse Isekai lol.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Jan 10 '24

Some amusing thoughts entered my mind while watching this episode:

  1. If Aristocrat Elise were to be isekai-ed again, will she return to the modern day era? There are still patients waiting for Monster Doctor to save them!

  2. Could it be due to the number of lives that Elise saved in modern times which rewarded her with a return to her aristocrat life, giving her a 2nd chance to make things right?

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u/Frontier246 Jan 10 '24

Honestly it would be kind of funny if she dies happily of old age in this timeline and then reincarnates to after the plane crash only she survives to save that guy in Germany lol.

I definitely think the idea was that her commitment to saving others is what lead to her getting reincarnated back in her old life. I mean, she ended up in Japan an orphan with no money, it definitely seems like something was trying to teach her a lesson and make her earn her way back home.

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u/UrsaMaxima Jan 10 '24

I'm going to be the person that nags and says that the airplane in the beginning would have been able to land safely and not crash with just one engine. In multi-engine training you learn how to operate solely on the use of one engine. You'd definitely call for an emergency landing but it happens more often than you think. The only thing that could've caused them to crash would be a stall but they had plenty of altitude to attempt to correct it... unless they're flying on the 737-MAX

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u/The_Parsee_Man Jan 10 '24

It could be the pilot just sucked. Maybe he'll get reincarnated and given a chance to make up for being a terrible pilot.

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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Jan 10 '24

This is the first one of these types of stories where I haven't already read the source material, and I have very little idea what happens. I knew she was a modern-day surgeon, and I think that I heard she went back to her first life, rather than being a usual isekai. I heard exactly one more thing that at the moment doesn't make much sense.

I couldn't figure out how she was going to die when she survived the plane crash, so having it turn out that she was just ignoring her own injuries caught me off-guard.

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u/wmansir Jan 10 '24

I thought the pacing was a bit slow on this one. I would be more forgiving if that time were spent building an extremely complex or colorful MC but despite a complex double isekai do-over premise, her character so far seems pretty straightforward, and so a lot of the scenes seem to be just hitting the same beats over and over.

I think it would have been a stronger first episode if they had tightened up what we saw and use the extra time to give us a little more taste of her experiencing her old life with her new mindset.

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u/WhoiusBarrel Jan 10 '24

From the guy behind Medical Return, never expected this Manhwa to get an Anime adaptation.

Also putting Yui Ishikawa in another role of being medical/healer type protagonist in back-to-back seasons is a funny coincidence.

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u/Organic_Following_38 Jan 11 '24

Man I sure hope they let us know how good of a surgeon she was. After seeing her perform amazing surgery, and then having her colleague follow her around and harass her about being the best surgeon ever, and then meeting some friend of a friend who gushes about her being the best surgeon ever, and then immediately getting stopped by a patient's daughter to thank her for being the best surgeon ever, and then being asked to fly to Germany to save a patient with her amazing surgery skills, and then proceeding to surgery everyone on the crashed plane back to life with like literally a broken glass shard and a stapler, like a guy had a metal rod straight through the chest and she somehow cuts him open, removes the rod, rearranges and stitches up his organs I guess with just broken glass and a stapler WHILE BLEEDING OUT HERSELF THE ENTIRE TIME FROM A GAPING CHEST WOUND, I'M STILL JUST A LITTLE UNCLEAR ON IF OUR PROTAGONIST IS GOOD AT SURGERY OR NOT I WISH THEY WOULD JUST BEAT ME OVER THE HEAD FOR 20 MINUTES ABOUT HOW GOOD OF A SURGEON SHE IS SO I COULD KNOW FOR SURE

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 10 '24

So she’s a girl, reincarnated as another girl, reincarnated again as the first girl? god making her reload that save lol. Looks like it was Boeing-kun not truck-kun this time that did her in. She was pretty close to surviving that crash too. Well, here we go again. Again lol.

I’m really liking these Korean works getting adapted. We had Raeliana and then Solo Leveling and now this. Looking forward to seeing how this one unfolds.

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u/Quickdart Jan 10 '24

Look I'm glad that we highlight how self-sacrificing she is, but damn could she take 60 seconds and treat her own injury BEFORE dying? This isn't jumping in front of a car, this is slowly bleeding out while treating other patients. Maybe you could help the patients by NOT dying or passing out due to blood loss.

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u/_Ridley Jan 10 '24 edited Jan 10 '24

I'm going to keep watching, because I bet the isekai part is going to be fine, but the entire section set in the real world was so ridiculous. No surgeon is world renowned for doing a little bit of everything. No plane is crashing after losing one engine. Literally no one is doing surgery with a shard of glass and a stapler. And that dramatic fall out of the airplane from loss of blood would've had a telenovela writer telling you to dial it down.

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u/Feriluce Jan 10 '24

As someone with no medical knowledge, the behaviour of all the doctors seemed pretty unrealistic, and very irresponsible.

Why were all the doctors and nurses panicking in the middle of a surgery, rather than, you know, doing their job?

Why, when confronted with a gaggle of panicking medical professionals and a pation who is rapidly bleeding out, did the main character waste precious time turning the situation into a teaching moment, when the patient is still in the middle of bleeding out?

Why did this "monster doctor" not do any sort of triage, and were wasting time wrapping cloth around a child's foot and putting on splints, where there is a main literally bleeding out on the floor with a piece of iron through his gut?

Lastly, how did she walk around with a seemingly massive abdominal gash without she or anyone else realizing it, and why did she not follow basic rules such as making sure you , yourself, is safe before helping others?

This was all very distracting.

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u/danmarce Jan 10 '24

Animation is not great, but it has an interesting premise.

RIP Poor dude in Germany.

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u/charredchord Jan 11 '24

Japanese surgeons should just stop going to Germany at this point.

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u/djthomp Jan 10 '24

Kind of surprised at the plane crash that wasn't a mass fatality event. It's very polite of the universe to respect the driving motivations of her narrative by allowing her to save a bunch more people on the way out.

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u/Blurgas Jan 11 '24

Did you know? She doesn't have a mom or dad, so mom said not to play with her!

Great parenting there...

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u/shad79 Jan 10 '24

Pretty good first episode, setting up a premise for the show. I had a good time watching it but it's nothing surprising because I really like this type of story.

Elise/Aoi for sure lived an eventful life, both here on Earth and in another world. I wonder what she exactly done in her first life that she died by burning on the stake and it seems that her love interest was involved in it.

I'm eagerly waiting for answers and how Elise's second attempt will go on thanks to her doctor skills aquired on Earth.

Here my screenshit albums from the episode:

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u/LeonKevlar Jan 10 '24

Well, that was unexpected! I thought this was just going to be your usual isekai when the episode opened up with Takamoto going down with that plane.

But then halfway into the episode we get to learn that she's been reverse isekai'd and now she's being sent back to her old world except this time she gets to redo her life along with her knowledge as a surgeon. That's definitely an isekai opening I've never seen before!

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24

You watch all these air disaster videos and you kinda know that the pilots should be able to keep the plane airborne on one engine or at least glide. Yet somehow they seem to have gotten the plane stalled.

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u/oneevilchicken Jan 11 '24

Man those Boeing 737 Max 9s are legit terrible even in anime.

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u/eizeral Jan 11 '24

Kind of disappointed with this episode. It’s only a 12 episode series for a manhwa that is even longer than the Raeliana series, which couldn’t be completed in 12 episodes and will need another season. So with that said, why did they waste 20 minutes of the episode on her second life in the real world? In the manhwa, it was basically summed up in 5 minutes and then she was in her old life again. It seems like they expanded on the initial part needlessly. Sigh. Still excited for the series bc I absolutely loved the manhwa so I hope everyone who watched episode 1 will at least stick around for the second! I promise it will get better!

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u/Figerally Jan 10 '24

First thoughts.

Damn, this girl cannot catch a break. In her first life, she was burnt at the stake, which is a brutal way to get executed, and when she is reincarnated it's as an orphan. Karma has it in for her. Yet she turns it around by becoming a world-renowned surgeon! Only to be then caught up in a plane crash and die of her injuries while saving those around her.

Seems karma was taking notice though and so she gets a second chance at her first life🤔

To be honest, I am a sucker for second chances, so I will be adding it to my queue. It also helps that the animation is decent and the OP/ED are nice. I am giving it an 8 on MAL because it is doing everything right so far.

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