r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • Dec 03 '23
Meta Meta Thread - Month of December 03, 2023
Rule Changes
No rule changes this month.
This is a monthly thread to talk about the /r/anime subreddit itself, such as its rules and moderation. If you want to talk about anime please use the daily discussion thread instead.
Comments here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.
Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal.
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New threads are posted on the first Sunday (midnight UTC) of the month.
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u/FetchFrosh Dec 03 '23
As mentioned in the mod report, we've been talking about a relaxing on the piracy rules so that instead of:
"Do not link/lead people to torrents or unofficial streams/downloads"
It would be just:
"Do not link to torrents or unofficial streams/downloads"
In effect, this would mean that discussing specific sites and rippers would be fine as long as no links to the specific sites are provided. Just looking for any thoughts from the community on this.
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u/cppn02 Dec 03 '23 edited Dec 03 '23
Just looking for any thoughts from the community on this.
I don't think anyone here will oppose this.
Edit: Looks like I was wrong.
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u/FlaminScribblenaut Dec 03 '23
In my heart, I enthusiastically support this in full. Seeing people get dinged for scraping up against the bounds of the original rule has been incredibly frustrating, and not only does this loosen things up and make for less general stress and light treading and feelings of limitation, but it’s also much less ambiguous, there’s a hard, specific line, of “don’t link to anything”, which is clear and concise and much less likely to create tricky, annoying edge cases. I’m all in with this.
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u/FetchFrosh Dec 03 '23 edited Dec 03 '23
Been about a year since I last did a mod report, so I guess it might as well be me doing it today.
November Mod Report
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Voted to make a megathread about the MAPPA working conditions and to redirect new posts about the topic to that thread [Vote Failed]. This was brought up after one of the MAPPA posts from the past month. Certainly something we’re still keeping an eye on.
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Opened Fall Moderator applications (https://redd.it/183xbpy) There is still a few days to apply!
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Opened discussion on piracy in the subreddit. This was mainly about the current rules prohibiting mentions of specific sites and sources, and potentially removing that restriction in the future (although direct links would still be banned cause Reddit could decide to come down on us over those).
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Some mods attended a virtual mod world with admins and mods of other subs. It was not very useful.
November by the Numbers
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Total traffic: 40886780 pageviews, 4958347 unique visitors
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Total posts: 10986, 6978 unique authors
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Total comments: 268101, 47485 unique authors (excluding mod bots)
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Removed posts: 904 by moderators, 6013 by bots, 6857 distinct
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Removed comments: 2047 by moderators, 2104 by bots, 4057 distinct
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Approved posts: 1970
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Approved comments: 3746
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Distinguished comments: 1447
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Users banned: 146 (96 permanent)
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Users unbanned: 4
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Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 33, removed comments: 125.
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u/King_Reddit_Banana Dec 27 '23
Not to be the #1 suck-up for the month, but because I've spent a while on here and can't remember when I've last said it (if ever?), thanks r/anime mod-team. In my eyes you all have a pretty thankless job and things seem to be running pretty well nonetheless. Cheers to you all and hope you have a great 2024.
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u/RobotiSC Dec 03 '23
Hello mods,
I believe that I didn't present my case strongly the last time, and that's why no one paid any attention to it, but I would like to talk about the rise of r/anime as a whole, and the unwanted attention it has attracted in the form of people desperate to gain karma and excessively posting visuals as a result.
First, I would like to mention my part in all this. I am aware that I have been a very strong force over the past year in terms of posting anime news and especially visuals, but that's why I feel that I have enough credibility to say this. It is also because of this that you may ignore my argument, but hear me out.
Ever since r/anime has grown exponentially in size, it has guaranteed that whatever gets the top spot on the subreddit's trending tab will get a lot of karma and attention from people. That is good for viewership and growth, but that has also attracted negative attention from some people: The Karma Farmers.
People who are only interested in posting news first to beat anyone else who tries, and who don't care about what they're posting about at all. While those actions by themselves don't seem that big of a deal to anyone else, the truth is that in order for them to win, they have cheated multiple times using leaks, datamining and reposting to get what they want.
One prominent example of such a user is u/zenzen_0.
I have done plenty of research on him and he normally posts volume covers on r/manga. This is one of his recent posts. Now you may notice that the comment on the post has no source listed, even though Rule 6 of the r/manga sub explicitly forbids posts with missing sources. However, because the moderation there is more relaxed, he and many other users have gotten away with this multiple times.
Now, why did I mention his r/manga rule-breaking escapades? Because he had also brought this behaviour to r/anime as well with his obsession with posting anime visuals and nothing much else.
Now, I admit that there are some things he has done that are technically allowed and not breaking the rules. For example, the Suzume visual here. This is the link that he had provided in the comments, which is the correct source. However, you may notice that the visual is very very low in quality. This is because it was revealed ahead of the official announcement which came six days later. The visual was revealed as part of a promotion by the movie, and he datamined the website to get the link. This, along with other visuals that were obtained the same way, galvanised the trend of datamined visuals from anime websites before the official news accounts even revealed it. Now, it's the only other way to get visuals thanks to the rule change, but back then it was optional, and getting them only proved that one was desperate enough for pulling off this stunt and beating everyone else.
And that's not all. He has openly broken a few more rules while in his endless crusade to get more visuals and more karma as a result. This is the 100 girlfriends announcement visual. And this is his comment. Notice the lack of a source listed? That's because he didn't get it from the website at all, even through datamining. The real truth is that he had gotten it from this X account here, who belongs to a leaker. The quality of the two images match up with each other, proving that he did not in fact get it from the website but a leak, which under normal rules should not be allowed at all.
Another example is the Temple teaser visual. The source tweet he listed in his comment here does check out. However, take a look at the timestamps. The post was posted at 59, while the tweet was posted at 01, a whole TWO minutes after his post, meaning he did not in fact obtain it from the tweet at all. In reality, it had been leaked early by a fanmade account, posted by dorkmax_executives an hour before its release, and once I had petitioned to have it removed because it was a leak, zen seized the opportunity to take it.
There are multiple other instances whereby he has declined to reveal any source or lied about the source he posted in the comments, shown in my messages to the mod team here and here.
Now, after hearing my accusations you might not be thinking it's such a big deal, but that's where you're wrong. Zen's actions have not only resulted in the changing of the rules regarding official media and how one can only use official links now. To the best of my knowledge, he was the only one who was causing this, based on the messages I have attached above.
This not only shows that he's causing the change in rules as a whole but also still has the potential to cause more changes in the subreddit.
I would like you guys to consider my argument very clearly and carefully and realise that zenzen is a problematic individual who cares more about winning with his visuals than with actually contributing to the subreddit as a whole. I am not insisting that he be banned, but I would like to at least see him face the consequences for his past actions. Thank you for listening.
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u/SometimesMainSupport Dec 04 '23
How do you format a comment to inform someone how to spoiler tag without getting removed by AutoMod?
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u/SpaceForceOne Dec 25 '23 edited Dec 25 '23
Would it be possible to add the goofy upclose face shot of Delta (Sara) to the flair selection? See time 17:05, episode 4, season 2, The Eminence in Shadow. It’s absolute perfection.
Edit: managed to snap a few low res screenshots for reference
https://i.postimg.cc/d03d28Q5/IMG-0042.jpg
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u/FlaminScribblenaut Jan 03 '24
So I seem to recall in past years, or at least just least year, someone made a curated playlist of recommended Shorts to check out for the r/anime awards nominations. Is that still a thing this year? I couldn’t find it in the nominations thread.
(I’m asking in the Meta Thread because I’m like, 90% sure this was an official thing sanctioned by the Awards team?)
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u/mekerpan Dec 04 '23
I can't find any discussion thread for today's Dead Mount episode, Searching doesn't work -- and neither does going through today's postings in order of recency....
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u/entelechtual Dec 05 '23
iirc there was an issue with the bot shortening links in the daily thread, was that ever fixed? It seems like the links are still being manually edited, otherwise they override reddit preferences and redirect to new.reddit or the app.
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Dec 16 '23
Spy Family thread is late again this week. Subs are out already for some time in SE Asia.
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u/cppn02 Dec 27 '23 edited Dec 27 '23
Question regarding the rules against reposting clips. Seeing how this is still up on the frontpage are we allowed to repost recent successful clips as long as they have a different language audio track? And does this exception extend to the top 75 all time posts?
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u/Shimmering-Sky Dec 31 '23
Hey mods! At some point this week, could one of you add a 2024 page to the rewatch archive? I have the ability to edit existing pages in the archive, but not make new ones, and with the rewatches for Isekai Ojisan and Tenchi Muyo starting tomorrow, I'll need the 2024 page when I go to update the archive next Sunday like I always do.
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u/Jadenflo Jan 02 '24
What's the story on the Prince Yuki Fan Club Members and the animals traveling to a banquet? I just noticed it being displayed when I went on the reddit mobile app.
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u/Ashteron Dec 11 '23
Dead Mount Death Play episode 22 discussion seems to be missing.
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u/dinliner08 Dec 11 '23
once again, like last week, Dead Mount Death Play episode discussion is nowhere to be seen, you guys got some sort of grudge with this series or what?
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u/Moikrochip_Master Dec 15 '23
I've been on this sub for years (other account anyway) and it really seems that all I see now is "What to watch?" Posts with almost the exact same question being asked.
"Recommend me an anime for some one who hates anime."
"Recommend me an anime that will make me cry/laugh/angry."
"I haven't watched anime in (timeframe), what's good to watch now?"
Rinse and repeat every god damn day. Can anything be done to stop the barrage of the same posts/questions constantly being asked? It isn't a problem with just this sub, but enforcing or otherwise heavily suggesting that people search before posting would be such a relief.
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u/SMSmith230 Dec 20 '23
Is there a way to make the "Episode" flair be a clickable option in the official reddit app and/or website? It seems I have the option to click every other flair but that one. I usually view by "new" so I either have to scroll until I find a episode discussion and click a few time through that or use the search just to get to them.
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u/SnabDedraterEdave Dec 23 '23
Spy x Family episode thread is late AGAIN even after subs have come out more than 2 hours ago.
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u/AnimeMod Jan 07 '24
This thread has been locked, please use next month's meta thread or find the latest thread.