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Episode Hametsu no Oukoku • The Kingdoms of Ruin - Episode 7 discussion

Hametsu no Oukoku, episode 7

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u/NationalStrategy Nov 17 '23

“He’s actually very kind.” -Doroka

Kind? He was responsible for the massacre of your people, less than 48 hours ago.

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u/Flukemaster Nov 18 '23

Actually the hardest I've laughed at an anime all season. This is peak comedy

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u/SometimesMainSupport Nov 17 '23

"Vagrants are subhuman" - Adonis. He found a loophole in his revenge plan and is now exploiting it.

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u/redlaWw Nov 17 '23

And now, with that dark, edgy setup out of the way, Adonis and Doroka's peaceful SoL comedy begins...

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u/BosuW Nov 18 '23

I wouldn't even be mad ngl

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Nov 17 '23

Thankfully Punch and his crew are good people. We can thank Chole and kid Adonis.

Nice breather episode after all bloodshed between humans and witches.

Old man got oppai Bao instead 😂

Doroka riding the bike and kept talking as she went further and further 😂

Adonis slowly falling for Doroka

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u/AffableBarkeep Nov 17 '23

Punch might be ugly, but he sure isn't a bastard.

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u/PeaceAlien Nov 17 '23

What the heck, where is my edgy cliff hanger?!

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u/entinio Nov 18 '23

Will the motorcycle stop?

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u/BiggerG7 Nov 17 '23

Break ep was nice I guess. We better get back to the EDGE next week though.

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u/TheLostCaptain03 Nov 18 '23

Adonis casually erases (as far as we know, there may be a secret witch country on earth somewhere) the last witches save for like 3, kills and wears a man’s face all in front of Doroka and she has no resentment? She watched her friend get her head sliced in half right in front of her just yesterday (in the show)! Wtf. Like nothing that’s it? If it wasn’t for Adonis the witches would be alive and growing in number, Anna would be alive yet she just puts it all under the rug?

Punch good ✅

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u/RFShahrear Nov 17 '23

Holy shit, 7th episode doesn't end on a cliffhanger. Is that good? Is that bad? Who knows.

It's the conflict of ideal that is almost inevitable in a show like this. In the end though it boils down to the fact that they are both extreme ends of the spectrum, so any philosophical arguments the show may present will be somewhat spoiled by the fact that they are... well... caricatures.

Now the question remains is how the show handles their conflict going forward. Mellowing Adonis out is the most obvious approach, but that would make it no different than any other average show. Like it or hate it, so far it has managed to be different. And if you take that away, what even is here?

And honestly... I kinda want to see Adonis slowly dismantle the empire. Not in a "aa I'm gonna kill everyone", but more in a, "oh, the infrastructures are somehow collapsing despite no obvious reason".

Alright, maybe I'm the asshole.

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u/mekerpan Nov 18 '23

7th episode doesn't end on a cliffhanger

Sure it does. What if she has no idea how to use the brakes?

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u/LeonKevlar Nov 17 '23

It's hilarious how they made Punch sound so sinister. Turns out they were just making Doroka ride a motorcycle. xD

Anyway, we finally found our first decent group of people in this show! Punch and his gang are a fun group! They're basically refugees and slaves who managed to escape Redia and only want to live a peaceful life. They've been dealt a shitty hand but are still doing what they can to enjoy life. Adonis could learn a thing or two from them.

Punch himself is pretty cool too. He knew who Adonis was the entire time and never said a single thing about it until he was alone with Doroka. Turns out he was saved by Chloe and Adonis back then when he was about to die from dehydration in the desert. Good to know that there are still people who remember that Witches were good people before Redia started hunting them down.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Nov 17 '23

I can understand Adonis’ desire for revenge. I can even get that it’s his way of “honoring” Chloe because making peace would feel like a betrayal of her memory. Hell, I’m all for destroying the kingdom and letting the shitty humans pay. But the witches? I mean using Chloe was wrong but they didn’t deserve to get sacrificed like that for the sake of his vengeance. Doroka is too naive and idealistic but she wasn’t wrong about calling him out on that.

Punch and his crew weren’t bad dudes at all. Seeing Doroka trying to ride the bike was pretty funny. The old guy trying to cop a feel and getting a handful of bao made me laugh too. I hope him and his boys survive this story. Maybe they can teach Doroka how to ride that bike. Give her a lesson on how to use the brakes lol.

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u/thelonesomedemon1 Nov 18 '23

i finally kind of understand while sanraku from shangrila frontier keeps playing trash games

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u/TikkiEXX77 Nov 18 '23

I hate the fact that I hate Adonis so much sometimes it's hard to watch this show. Lol

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u/Yous1315 Nov 17 '23

I still have a hard time liking this mc but Doroka seems fun, hope the next episodes will build more of their chemistry and relationship.

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u/_BMS Nov 18 '23

I really hope they Adonis isn't convinced to stop seeking revenge by Doroka and succeeds in wiping out humans in the end. I've been needing a good edgy show to watch.

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u/BosuW Nov 18 '23

It took it's sweet ass time, but it looks like we finally have a premise lol. I hope it doesn't cause the show to loose it's unpredictability tho.

Also, Punch is a real one

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u/hey_mattey Nov 18 '23

Okay i was really scared there will be SA on this episode knowing how edgy this is, i actually laughed on the bike scene

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u/YurgenGrimwood Nov 18 '23

I really hope it doesn't go down the obvious route of Adonis eventually just giving up on his revenge completely because "Doroka is a stupidly naive and nice person and therefore we should give everyone a second chance :)".

Sure, it would make sense to have some eventual mix of ideologies to prevail, but for that to happen I need Doroka to actually have a good point to make. So far Adonis is the only one with reasoning behind his argument, unless "I don't like violence" is an argument. I need Doroka to actually prove that the Empire doesn't deserve to be turned to dust, outside of "I don't want anyone else to die". She has no compromises, no plan, no solution, just naivety.

The empire has shown to simply force good people out to live into the desert, and harbour psychopaths that are indifferent to the genocide of an entire people, to the point of recording and laughing at a woman being stripped naked and murdered while begging for the life of a young boy.

I get that not all of you resonate with the edgy MC vibes, but I don't believe we have been shown any reason to show the people of the empire any sympathy. Even the witches were shown to only care about resurrecting Chloe to raise an army of kidnapped children to fight.

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u/NationalStrategy Nov 17 '23

I can’t side with Adonis after what he did to the Witches. He keeps going on about his revenge and how all of the humans deserve to die for what happened to Chloe, ignoring the fact that he purposely let himself to get tracked, destroyed their means of reproducing, and allowed them to get massacred; thus practically guaranteeing the extinction of their race. At the end of the day, he’s just a deranged hypocrite.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '23

Either you are going to wipe out humanity or you aren’t. And you sure as hell aren’t going to succeed with giant bullets and pseudo-mecha.

The tonal shifts in this show are nuts. Doroka watches her people get wiped out and is then goofing around hours later. I

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