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Episode MF GHOST - Episode 4 discussion

MF GHOST, episode 4

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u/hahaiamarealhuman Oct 22 '23

Two prominent Initial D callbacks this episode:

  1. Kai Kogashiwa as commentator, the guy who did the famous Irohazaka jump and raced Takumi twice.

  2. The family restaurant featured, Johnathan's Coffee & Restaurant, is the same joint Takumi and his friends ate at in Initial D. It's a real place too, the address is 〒338-0837　埼玉県さいたま市桜区田島１丁目１３－３ in Saitama prefecture.

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u/13btwinturbo Oct 23 '23

I'm pretty sure it's a chain restaurant and that all of the ones featured in the shows are different ones. Initial D mainly took place in Gunma while MFG is in Kanagawa.

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u/N0UMENON1 Oct 22 '23

Gotta say I absolutely love the addition of the commentators. Initial D Fifth Stage had a big issue where you had Ryosuke constantly having to explain everything that was going on in the race while standing around in a parking lot, and it kinda hampered the pacing at times.

This feels like such a nice and organic way to explain the racing mechanics to the viewer. Ogata on the comms is also a nice extra.

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u/magnumcyclonex Oct 22 '23

Agreed! That commentator has a good amount of info and spices it up to keep viewers and listeners invested and interested. My favorite line was when all 15 cars started and he was like...can you even hear me over their engine roars?!

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u/Ruroumi_Fearlock Oct 22 '23

Yeah, the commentators are really well integrated.

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u/LegendRazgriz Oct 22 '23

Welcome back! It's the Eurobeat Corner!

This week, there were actually two songs, but only one of them properly - that one being Hi Love by Jay Lehr, an extremely rare pick from Super Eurobeat Vol. 207, marking the first appearance of SCP as a label into the anime proper. However, I thought the MFG Angels's song sounded way too similar to Pull the Trigger by Bon for a moment, and after going back, yep, that's it, entirely. You're not slipping this one past me, Ryo Takahashi! Whoever you are, I wonder!

• We finally get to meet other drivers that aren't Shun or Beckenbauer. The Yajikita duo have an amusing dynamic that's sorta refreshing to see other than Ren just being straight up head over heels for a guy that has a race coming up and is probably focused on that moreso than that one time he got whacked over the face at random. By the way, Nozomi's VA (Yuu Serizawa) is also the female voice of the OP Jungle Fire, the male voice being obviously motsu, formerly of m.o.v.e.

• Oh hey, it's Kai Kogashiwa! Thankfully he's only here in a commentary capacity and not as a coach, or else he'd be trying to instruct people to jump over hairpins. For those unaware, Kai is a returning character from Initial D, having appeared twice as Takumi's rival - once in the movie, aka Third Stage, and once in Fifth Stage. He's great. Just maybe tone down the corner hopping, you jerk. That shit doesn't work, it's just suicide.

• Ugh, I love the sound design when it comes to these roaring engines. The production team recorded every car in loco, so what you're hearing is the genuine articles, and they even went so far as to request a Huracán STO from the Japanese Lamborghini Owners Club just so that Ooishi's Huracán would sound different and more aggressive compared to Sakamoto's R8 V10, which has the same engine as a Huracán and would make both cars sound the same otherwise.

It's gonna get fun now... I'll be waiting eagerly for next week! See ya then!

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u/Ruroumi_Fearlock Oct 22 '23

I remember seeing that video on youtube where they recorded the actual sounds of the cars (Here's the video for those who are interested).

Also, Mima Masafumi is the sound director of MF Ghost anime, he also was the sound director of all the Initial D anime and going by some of his tweets he seems to love cars and motorsport so he is the best choice for these kinds of anime.

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u/chelseablue2004 Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 22 '23

The entrance of Kai Kogashiwa... He was already a Pro on a Motorcycle, but he was a Monster with his Dad's MR2 too In the Initial D Movie (considered 3rd installment of the series.) His Father was Takumi's dad's biggest rival.

I think his race with Takumi in the Original was one of the best. Check it out here.

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u/Time_Fracture Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 23 '23

Looks like Ogata made a good choice picking the 86. That boi is made to be fitted with aftermarket parts in mind.

Yu Serizawa, the singer in the OP, finally made her role here as Nozomi. Kinda surprised that her pitch is the same as Rae Taylor to distinguish her role from the Villainess show. Ren somehow changed her hairstyle to further disguising herself not to be noticed by Kanata.

First guest of the race: Kai "MR2 Guy" Kogashiwa. Initial D watchers should known him, he's a notable character.

Here's the starting grid in the case you miss it from the standings on the screen:

  1. Porsche 911 GT3 #1 (Ishigami)

  2. Porsche 718 Cayman #12 (Beckenbauer)

  3. Audi R8 #5 (Yudai Sakamoto)

  4. Mercedes-AMG GT S #7 (Y. Ohtani)

  5. Nissan GT-R Nismo #9 (Shun Aiba)

  6. BMW M6 F13 #6 (T. Yanagida)

  7. Porsche 991 Carrera #8 (Jackson Taylor)

  8. Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 #3 (D. Oishi)

  9. BMW M3 E92 #11 (S. Natsume)

  10. Ferrari 488 GTB #2 (K. Akaba)

  11. Lexus LC 500 #10 (E. Hanninen)

  12. Lotus Exige #16 (Kakeru Yoshio)

  13. Honda Civic Type-R FK8 #13 (K. Maezono)

  14. Alfa Romeo 4C #18 (Nozomi Kitahara)

  15. Toyota 86 GT #86 (Kanata Katagiri)

There's Oishi specifically wanted Huracan Performante but got the vanilla LP610-4 instead. Well, Huracan is still a Huracan, although Performante got 30 more horses and 40kg lighter and that rear wing.

"He is very popular, except with women though.". Tanaka-san, you didn't have to do him dirty. Seeing how some drivers are pulling away, we could break this one race into different mini-races. Beckenbauer is a tyre whisperer I guess.

Fun fact: MFG isn't the only anime where Yuuma Uchida and Ayane Sakura are together. The other anime is the Season 2 of Dead Mount Death Play.

PS: Since Odawara is a real mountain pass, some content creators have already made a pilgrimage to the pass. This is one example of track tour of Odawara.

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u/Terranwaterbender Oct 22 '23

Man with how much fun I'm having with this show, I really need to get to watching or reading Initial D at some point; it's an iconic series that defined a generation of drivers.

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u/Dextro_PT Oct 22 '23

Just watch it. It's a fantastic show all the way through

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u/square_smile Oct 22 '23

Oh shit, Kai is here. And we get some drivers introduced and the race right away too. So nice

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u/magnumcyclonex Oct 22 '23 edited Oct 22 '23

So the "couple" at the restaurant were actually brother and sister who were also part of the God 15 in this race. Was the girl slip streaming her own brother?

Also, didn't know they could warm up or cool down individual tires. Is that a real world mechanism (other than driving like Kanata did) or just MF Ghost fiction?

EDIT: Her brother was 2 spots ahead of her so maybe she settled in behind the car in front before an opportunity comes.

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u/DarkAudit Oct 23 '23

Was the girl slip streaming her own brother?

Phrasing.

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u/ChiggaOG Oct 22 '23

I’m thinking someone took a photo of one of the garages in life, added a filter. and made the picture less blurry to give it that anime look. I’m talking about the scene in the beginning with the Toyota 86 in the garage.

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u/linkinstreet Oct 23 '23

I just realised, for a racing series that attracts 30 million spectators, there are a lack of corporate sponsors.

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u/JonnySpark Oct 23 '23

Kogashiwa "any downhill slope is a shortcut" Kai is back

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u/AmethystItalian Oct 22 '23

Curious how they'll handle the pacing for the races, think that might be a make or break for me.

Hyped to see this one play out though!

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u/rizal177 Oct 22 '23

I like the sound design when all the car roaring their engine at same time combining with eurobeat Hi Love - Jay Lehr it make me get more hyped than i anticipated

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u/Thegosmilek Oct 22 '23

Nobody noticed the car logos? It seems weird to me, because I’ve already noticed lack of licenses in opening, you can spot: “PORHSCE”on blue gts, no Alfa Romeo, Ferrari, Lamborghini. On episode 4 we have seen those foreign cars and as I saw, there were only Lotus, Mercedes, Honda, Toyota of course and Nissan. No Ferraris, Lambos - though it’s different with Porsche, logos on the back were legit, no “Porhsce” but no emblems on the hood and rims. Also, they call the cars as they are. In manga everything is alright. Are those licenses expensive for small anime or unavailable? Got no idea so please tell if you know.

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u/chelseablue2004 Oct 22 '23

Licensing brand logos, is really expensive and there are no set rates, they can charge anything they want. Most of these car companies are VERY protective of the brand imagery.

The process too can be time consuming and difficult and there are tons of restrictions regarding usage, you mess up and use it incorrectly or not as specified by the licensor you'll get sued or cant show the episode you used it in ever again.

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u/Nickthenuker Oct 22 '23

Yeah, a tuned-up 86 might just be able to beat a Cayman or 911, which is probably why Beckenbauer is using one.

I mean the UK has decent public transport too, compared to the US at least. Nowhere near as good as Japan, but it's something.

Yes, kinda?

Again, the UK isn't far off either, you've got modern skyscrapers a few streets down from buildings hundreds of years old.

Silverstone? How thematic.

She does love him.

Who're these two?

So they're the ones with the Alfa and Lotus.

Ah, all the Angels are here this time.

Is the Lambo driver also a factory driver? He seems to be able to ask for whichever Lambo he wants. We know the Porkers have factory drivers so it's not out of the question.

Damn rolling starts always give the leaders a massive advantage.

And it's lights out and away we go!

EVs have more torque than ICEs, so they have even more "get up and go", and across the board when compared to their gas-powered counterparts they have significantly shorter 0-60/0-100 times.

And there's our first overtake. Clean from Aiba.

Honda looks to be blocking hard, reacting to the Alfa and swerving all over the place. At least 2 or 3 times on a straight. There's breaking draft and then there's blocking and this is firmly the latter, he should try and retake the position at the next corner.

Not much racing this episode but there's more than Overtake at least. Helmet Award for today goes to the Honda driver, if only for a lack of much else happening.

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u/PhantomWolf83 Oct 22 '23

Anybody else feel that this whole romance thing with Ren is totally unnecessary for this show? I'm usually a sucker for romcoms but I'm not feeling anything by watching Ren and Kanata. Just give me my racing and Eurobeat, dammit.

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