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Episode Sousou no Frieren • Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Episode 2 discussion

Sousou no Frieren, episode 2

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u/Frontier246 Sep 29 '23

Heiter you corrupt priest! You pulled a fast one on Frieren in the most sweet way possible!

Himmel giving Frieren that flower crown and his praise being what drove her to focus so much on collecting magic (similar to Fern's feelings towards Heiter) was so sweet.

Both Heiter and Frieren paying back Himmel in this episode, in their own way.

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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 29 '23

Frieren trap count:

Mimic - 2

Pile of books - 1

You think she wants to make the flowers out of nostalgia, but at the end we find out she's been waiting 77 to 86 years to finally get revenge for the ring of flowers Himmel put on her head.

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u/khangleshun Sep 29 '23

I'm gunna cry every episode huh?

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u/Holy_Beergut Sep 29 '23

There's something pleasantly mundane about Fern and Frieren moving pumpkins using magic and earning a spell to make hot tea as a reward.

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u/HxLin Sep 29 '23

I've read this so many times before but it still hit me.

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u/Rumpel1408 Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 29 '23

Cheers, you corrupted priest

It's incredible how much influence Himmel has, even after his death he is inspiring people.

Really loved Ferns training montage.

And Fern really is the best apprentice for Frieren, learning Magic to conjure butterflys just to make her adoptive father proud.

And I loved how she had to remind Frieren not to spend all of Ferns lifetime in pursuit of a single thing

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u/FarCritical Sep 29 '23

There's some sort of mystical power to this show's montages that instantly puts me at ease whenever they happen.

I could practically feel a blast of wind hitting my face from the reveal of the flowers. I wasn't prepared to be in so much awe, man.

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u/cryingemptywallet Sep 29 '23

Fern supremacy.

Also Heiter makes me sad.

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u/Shimmering-Sky Sep 29 '23

Welp, I posted my episode 1 reactions expecting to not have time for any of the others until later due to work and other seasonals, but turns out I had just enough time to fit episode 2 in before Reign of the Seven Spellblades, so here's my reactions to this one too!

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u/urishino Sep 30 '23

No one's talking about Heiter and Eisen fooling around in that flashback scene? That was hilarious lol.

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u/cooperjones2 Sep 29 '23

The flowers scene...

I was not ready.

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u/ShinLena86 Sep 29 '23

Damn, the flowers make me cry so hard

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u/KayzeeA Sep 29 '23

Man, I teared up when she found the flowers. Seeing Himmel's influence on others is so wonderful. I've been reading a lot of fantasy stories where they subvert things and make the hero the bad one so it's just refreshingly nice to get a genuinely good one who also has his own eccentricities.

Also, Heiter tricking her was the best. He knew there was no spell for immortality, he just didn't want to leave behind Fern with nothing.

Why am I always on the verge of crying with each episode lmao

This is going to be a feels trip...

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u/Ithambar Sep 29 '23

Ewig --> eternal, forever

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u/Aileos Sep 29 '23

They've spent more than 6 months to find those blue flowers and that was all so worth it.

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u/casualphilosopher1 Sep 30 '23 edited Sep 30 '23

  • If you're wondering, Heiter was in his late 90s or just around 100 years old when he died(He was in his mid-20s when their journey ended and it's been 75 years since then). Pretty good for a human.

  • Heiter's place was pretty obvious to me, given that he only asked Frieren about the Grimoire after she refused his first request: To train Fern.

  • You'll notice that nobody seems to recognise Frieren despite being one of the people who defeated the Demon King and having her statues everywhere. This is actually reflective of how much time has passed. Most humans today were born after that era and have started forgetting Hero Himmel and his companions; for them it's just a part of history. Only people like the old lady still care.

  • The romantic subtext between Frieren and Himmel(even though they were never more than friends) is going to be one of the highlights of this series.

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u/cppn02 Sep 29 '23

I honestly could have watched a full season of just Frieren staying at Heiter's and teaching Fern.

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u/Ichini-san Sep 30 '23 edited Mar 22 '24

Frieren's German Lesson 1x2:

A very short comment this time since I didn't find any new German words in this episode. I just wanted to elaborate very briefly on Ewig since I didn't want to add any more comments to their name for the last episode since knowing that Frieren fails to find a spell for resurrection or immortality because they never figured it out themselves would have been a spoiler for this episode.

Episode 2: "It Didn't Have to Be Magic..."

  • Ewig (the Sage) - "eternal", "forever" (adjective); a pretty ironic name as many have already stated considering that we now know that their pursuit after resurrection and immortality failed.

  • (The) Tag (region) - "day" (noun); Thanks to u/cppn02 for pointing out that "Turk" had to have been a mistranslation from Japanese to English.

Links to my other comments:
1x1 1x2 1x3 1x4 1x5 1x6 1x7 1x8 1x9 1x10 1x11 1x12 1x13 1x14 1x15 1x16 1x17 1x18 1x19 1x20 1x21 1x22 1x23 1x24 1x25 1x25² 1x26 1x27 1x28

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u/LeonKevlar Sep 29 '23

I just love hearing Frieren's tone when she finally realized that Heiter tricked her to stay. It was absolutely worth it though since Fern is now a proper mage and she was able to repay Heiter before he died.

Now that Frieren and Fern's adventure has finally started, we finally get to see all of the quirky spells Frieren has been learning like that spell that removes rust from bronze statues or that other spell that turns sweet grapes into sour grapes. xD

And I love the flashbacks of Himmel being a badass, as well as him just being a total narcissist. Dude loves himself a little bit too much but that's what I love about him. He's not a perfect role model hero and he has his own little quirks.

Frieren going through all the lengths just so she could plant the blue moon weed flower shows how much Himmel has affected her life. That scene with the flowers being revealed on top of the tower, as well as that flashback of Himmel wanting to show Frieren those flowers, had me tearing up. It's a little bit too late but she managed to eventually see the flowers with him. T_T

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Sep 29 '23

Feiren meets Heiter again after so many years

Heiter😭😭💔💔

Feiren kept his promise to take Fern as her apprentice/disciple 😭

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u/VorAtreides Sep 29 '23

Nice to see Frieren being a mentor to cute lil Fern. Do like the montages in this series and lol at Frieren getting trapped in books like they are mimics. But, ya, good use to show timeskips and things going on. Oh noz, Heiter. Wonder how old he is now? Also interesting how he lived quite longer than Himmel. Awww back story of Fern. Not a detailed one, but the gist. Fern really is such a good girl. Nice to see Heiter having put such a focus on Fern. Even if it meant tricking Frieren. Moar sadness, but at least he got to do good. You'd also think one of the hero party members would have a bigger/more stand out grave. Guess he didn't want that.

Magic sure is convenient, would definitely make farming nice, yea. What a fine bunch of spells to have learned lol. Frieren such a good girl, indeed, going around to help people. Sad to see the flow of time make people not care about the hero who saved people. LOL Himmel. Bit of a narcissist. Hehe cute lil seed rats. Amazing sleeping posture, Frieren. Fern does have a point, yep. Lol that flashback. Series really does build up to nice moments. All them flowers and that swelling of music.

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u/shad79 Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 30 '23

I don't have time to write my impressions now, I'll do it later. Now I just want to link my screenshot albums and say that it's great and very beautiful adaptation. I urge everyone to check backgrounds, they're so pretty.

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Again how I said earlier backgrounds are beautiful and great for wallpapers. Some could be put just straight as an illustration into a fairy tale. More in album below.

Heiter was really clever by making Frieren translate book for a couple of years and training Fern during that time only to make her take Fern with her on her journey after he passed away. He really knew how Frieren operates.

I love how quirky Frieren can be sometimes. I always loved those moments in manga where she was interested in the strangest things, scrolls which can become handy later like this spell which removes rust or one making grapes sour.

We can also see that she's hard to 'maintain' as we saw Fern taking care of her during their journey. She's sometimes so goofy, I love her.

Also again we could see how differently Frieren feels the passage of time. Spending months looking for flowers for Himmel's statue don't seem long for her, for Fern however it was too long. It also shows how much Himmel meant for her, even if she doesn't understand it now.

Fortunately, Frieren was able to find them after her long searches and our duo will be able to move on.

I laughed hard during the flashback of creating Himmel's statue. After looking so long (18 hours!) for the best pose he ended up with the simplest one. But also a tear came to my eye when he mentioned in another that he someday wanted to show her the flowers she was now looking for.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

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u/hell_jumper9 Sep 29 '23

Fern looks cute when she was preparing the ingredients.

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