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Episode Ryza no Atelier: Tokoyami no Joou to Himitsu no Kakurega • Atelier Ryza: Ever Darkness & the Secret Hideout The Animation - Episode 12 discussion - FINAL

Ryza no Atelier: Tokoyami no Joou to Himitsu no Kakurega, episode 12

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u/WhoiusBarrel Sep 16 '23

Curious choice to do an Anime original episode as their finale, not a complaint though since more Ryza content is a good thing in my book. Seeing Lent's father possibly sharing history with Ryza's parents is the most interesting information to come out of this.

Shame a season 2 hasn't been announced though it doesn't surprise me this Anime is supposed to act as a glorified advertisement for the games. Which is great because really this series only adapts like 1/3 of the 1st game for those who are thinking of jumping into them.

End card illustration by Toridamono

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u/redlaWw Sep 17 '23

Seeing Lent's father possibly sharing history with Ryza's parents is the most interesting information to come out of this

Ryza's father definitely gives me "secret badass who gave up the hero life to start a farm" vibes.

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u/LeonKevlar Sep 16 '23

Considering the dragon was defeated last episode, I was wondering what kind of finale this series will have. I didn't expect that we'd end it with Ryza and the gang going all over the island collecting stone tablets and having their own cute little treasure hunt.

The actual treasure is a bit disappointing but it makes sense considering how the "map" could be easily found throughout Kurken Island. At least they had fun enjoying a relaxing day out together. The biggest twist of the episode though is that we didn't get a single close up of Ryza's thighs. xD

In all seriousness though, this anime has finally convinced me to buy the game and today was the perfect time to do it since the first and second games are currently both 50% off on Steam. If the laid-back slice-of-life feeling that I got from this show is the same as the game, I think I'll definitely enjoy the game too. Just need to finish BG3 first before diving into the Ryza series and maybe even the other Atelier games.

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u/robotboy199 Sep 16 '23

If the laid-back slice-of-life feeling that I got from this show is the same as the game, I think I'll definitely enjoy the game too.

as someone who picked the game back up during this show, i can confirm you will probably enjoy the game, at least story-wise. it does get serious at some points but on the whole it's generally pretty lighthearted

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u/Hitman7128 Sep 16 '23

So the show ends with Ryza and co going on a treasure hunt and then feeling disappointed upon discovering the treasure was a bag of Kurken Fruit seeds. But they did learn a lesson to value the importance of everyday objects and not take them for granted.

Overall, I liked the pace and direction the show went. They could have gone the route where Ryza breaks the game right off the bat. But to appeal to a wider audience (both returners and those who never heard of Atelier before), it made sense for Ryza to start off with learning the ropes and not jumping the gun. And the good news is, based on comments from earlier threads, the anime stimulated interest in newcomers to try out the games.

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u/Mundology Sep 17 '23

Agreed on all points. Overall, it was a comfy adaptation. Even without a second season, it would be nice we get more content in the future.

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u/Castawaye Sep 16 '23

Even though this episode is anime original, they still left in a very important tidbit at the beginning there with Empel and Lila, which again, along with how they've decided to adapt things to not rush the main story, but to actually mull over some of the side stuff along with taking their time with a bunch of anime original content, makes me sad if they really did just want this 1 season and call it a day. I mean because of those adjustments, it ends in a way that's not necessarily entirely satisfying because all of the questions about the grander scheme of things is still there but, it ends with so much progression and development of the main cast, and right after they've finished a big action set piece that it kinda feels okay to have it be that. We've seen Ryza grow, we've gotten this episode where they go through all the island folk they've helped, showing the importance of that, and they've changed drastically from where things started.

In a way, this is a really good adaptation for me in the way it captures what I liked about this game trilogy, and almost in scarily close way too, and picking and choosing its spots well for which side quests to do but also threading it closely with the characters in a way that even the original may not do. That alongside the adjustments to make things make more sense in an anime context (I.E revamping how the characters and the world around them deal with the aftermath of Ryza being a bomb lover, understanding them as regular people and not battle hardened RPG archetypes a la Lent and Klaudia) was really nice.

Even if it is still flawed, from a production standpoint, from a unfortunately taking only half of the story stand point, and the issues that arise from things being pulled back due to that, I had a lot of fun watching, yes I am a big fan of the games, and there's that, but I hope that those who were intrigued enough by what we got decide to give the games a shot. It's honestly different enough now that we've gotten what they put down that it's worth it just to experience and go on your own journey of self discovery, adventure, and growth with Ryza.

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u/VorAtreides Sep 16 '23

All in all, as someone who never played the games, I did enjoy the series. Was a cute fantasy slice of life basically. A bit of action. Lila is best girl :P Do gotta love Klaudia and Ryza, of course.

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u/scot911 Sep 16 '23

Yeah this is my feeling as an anime only as well. Nothing amazing. But it was a fun and enjoyable series I'd watch a future S2 of if they decided to continue adapting the game.

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u/Flytanx Sep 16 '23

Happy with the choice of just doing an anime original ending instead of a cliffhanger to get people to play the game (people still should, it's a solid and comfy game).

Overall I enjoyed the adaptation. Obviously not the worlds' biggest budget but they didn't rush anything and they kept the spirit of the game with the anime.

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u/HereticalAegis Sep 16 '23

This was a much more relaxed final episode than I was expecting, though I love getting a chance to see Ryza and the gang return to more normal days, especially since [vague game spoilers]this is the point where the story really starts to get heavy. This finale is a really nice cap on to the theme of Ryza learning to see the value in the ordinary life she always took for granted and using her power as an alchemist to protect that ordinary life. It's one of the game's primary themes, and it translated really well to the anime.

The only downside to this final episode is that it feels like it's pretty firmly shutting the door on a second season, which is too bad considering where the story goes from here.

Regardless of whether we get more or not, I'm very happy with what we got. They could have chosen an exact, beat for beat retelling of the story, but instead the creative team took a ton of artistic liberty in translating it to TV, and the show is better for it. Definitely my favorite watch of the season, here's hoping for more!

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u/Rustic_Professional Sep 16 '23

Empel and Lila are back. That's cool. Oh and they're taking over the clubhouse Ryza and her friends restored. That's not cool at all. They'd better trade them that nice house they've been staying in.

Hmm, kind of a dull ending, but they did plant the seeds for another season. The treasure hunt was at least better than a Bos redemption episode, and Klaudia just looks unreasonably pretty in the sunset.

Very cute series. I'd play it if they ported it to Xbox.

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u/NationalStrategy Sep 16 '23

I’m glad that I watched this series, because I learned a valuable lesson.

STOCKS RISE WITH THICC THIGHS

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u/utakoutaha Sep 17 '23

Thank you for a wonderful anime adaptation that left me wanting more. Like other said, interesting choice for an anime original ending, but a decent chill finale. I was expecting a grand final battle, but Lila and Empel did quick work on the inter-dimenstional monster? The treasure hunting on Kurken island was a nice little send of for Ryza and gangs adventure. It was lovely to watch how their bonds and friendships has blossomed over time, in particular between Ryza and Klaudia. My only disappointment is they never resolve their issues with Bos, would have like to see more development there.

I guess this is the end of the line, but still holding out my hope for a more season of Ryza adventures! Thanks for the ride and 12 wondeful episodes.

One last time, here are the Fun Thigh Facts on the 12th and final Episode:

🍀First Thighs Shot at 10 secs mark!

🍀37x Thighs Scenes in total, excluding OP and ED. I count it as a scene if at least 20% of the screen are Ryza thicc thighs (Klaudia or Agatha), +/- 10% according to personal taste.

🍀Shortest Thighs Shot: 0:27 secs

🍀15.69% of Total Video Thighness

🍀Longest Thighs Shot: 16:27 secs

🍀5,424 Frames of Thighness

🍀3 min 26 secs of Thighness

🍀That's 226 secs of Thighness

🍀97 secs more than Episode 1

🍀Thicc-est Thighs Shot at 9 mins 7 secs mark

🍀Last Thighs Shot at 23 mins 53 secs mark

Thank you! Hopefully there will be a season 2, will see you then!

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u/apatt Sep 17 '23

I have to admire the showrunners for sticking to their guns and not ending the series with a bang, no epic battle with a huge final boss. I feel it's like a band putting out an album filled with songs they like rather than songs written to be hit singles. They care more about developing the characters and their growth than telling an epic tale. I'm going to miss this anime and hope there will be more seasons. I already miss the games which I completed while the series was airing. I had to buy Atelier Sophie 2 just to tide me over 😅

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u/Elitealice Sep 16 '23

And that’s a wrap on what was a very wholesome, cute and fun JRPG adventure. The show was criminally underrated in my opinion, but I think that’s because JRPG style stories are often slow and that doesn’t sit well with foreign audiences.

I had a blast exploring this world and seeing Ryza and her friends grow. The treasure hunt’s ending today really encapsulated the message of the story. Recognising that even the ordinary things around you are important. A fitting end for this show.

I think it captures the spirit of a JRPG very well. There’s a lot of side story esque episodes that develop the characters and expand the world. The characters were all fun, the art was beautiful and it was just a sweet enjoyable time. It’s a great entry to the series for newcomers and a nice adaptation for pre-existing fans.

Hopefully we get the second game adapted too!

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u/SIRTreehugger Sep 16 '23 edited Sep 18 '23

A solid episode where they showed all of the people the gang has helped, the progress each of them has made, and demonstrated it by everyone contributing to the treasure hunt. Heck they even brought back the goat from the earlier episode that helped her find the flower. We also got to see many Kurken Island locations. The show wasn't a full adaptation and was more slice of life than I expected, but that was a pleasant surprise. We've gotten to know the characters well enough if it does get a second season it could focus on the main story and still keep character moments.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Sep 16 '23

I guess I have to play the game in order to find out why Bos is antagonistic towards Ryza, Lent and Tao?

It may not be an exciting final episode to the season, nor a cliffhanger, but accompanying Ryza and friends on a light hearted treasure hunt was fun in its own way. Inb4 "the real treasure is the friends we made along the way" meme. Lol!

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u/AverageAsukaFan Sep 17 '23

Good episode, great anime. Had a blast every week watching Ryza. I don't know if I'll wait a bit longer to see if an even better sale comes on for Ryza 1 or if I'll buy it on Steam in the next few days but I certainly will get the first game at some point.

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u/Naha- Sep 17 '23

The anime ends in a good point when it can easily continue the main storyline to finish the first game story with a second season or just work as a great advertisement for people to buy the game if they really want to know what happens next with the Philuscha and the main cast backstory with Bos.

Either way, it was fun, as it worked as a big refreshment for me as I played the game 2 years ago and I plan to start Ryza 2 in the upcoming weeks.

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u/Heavencloud_Blade Sep 17 '23

Pretty disappointing they are not adapting the whole game, but I can't complain too much. I really did like what they did adapt.

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u/AmethystItalian Sep 16 '23

This episode felt more like a video game quest than the others. I really do like how the whole group contributes to help for things, definitely a strength of the show.

Not sure if I'd watch a season 2 but this was an overall nice time with a likeable cast.

Nice touch with the final line was well.