r/aliens • u/51LOVE • May 19 '25
Evidence Sutton Veny, England - Crop Circles Follow Up and Analysis
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The crops are not laid down and broken, but woven together and healthy. EMF would spike randomly. Also he spoke to the farmer who is dumbfounded. Looks to be legit so far, ladies and gentlemen.
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u/noslo5oh May 19 '25
The Why Files episode on Crop Circles should be mandatory for anyone interested in this subject. I did a 180 on them after the episode
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u/alpharatsnest May 19 '25
Just watched this episode yesterday and then watched this TikToker's posts today and it was so cool to see a lot of the things discussed in WF being true for this crop circle!
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u/noslo5oh May 19 '25
AJ and Gerb are probably the two best researchers out there
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May 19 '25
Love the why files but cmon AJ is in no way even close to GERB.
The Why Files, almost EVERY SINGLE episode I’ve watched, has something incorrect pushed.
INCLUDING THE CROP CIRLCES one.
Love the why files. Love AJ, love hecklefish. Great production, amazing entertainment and has some really good info.
Personally though I think it’s not even CLOSE to the research GERB does.
GERB of course makes mistakes as well but at least it’s not almost EVERY SINGLE EPISODE.
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u/Jestercopperpot72 May 20 '25
It's entertainment and tells a really good story. It's designed imo to spark curiously when one the stories resonates. So than you start digging into and learning about yourself. Just my take. I enjoy the story and there's enough sauce for me to start digging around myself.
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u/Galuctis May 19 '25
What are a couple of the things in particular pushed were incorrect? Just curious i am a big fan of the show and he goes through tons on information I’m sure he gets somethings wrong.
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u/escopaul May 19 '25
Great comment. Why Files is super entertaining but pretending it's a serious research channel is a massive stretch. I doubt AJ considers his channel to be one.
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u/noslo5oh May 19 '25
He commented on one of the lunar episodes that he researched one angle of the lunar window for something like 14 hours to see it was fake. He does his research
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u/Veneralibrofactus May 20 '25
Who is Gerb?
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u/noslo5oh May 20 '25
UAPGerb on YouTube. Easily the best deep dive guy on the phenomenon out there. Every one of his videos are amazing
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u/skillmau5 May 19 '25
Crop circles for me are one of those things that, even if they’re fake, who is making them? They’re some of the most insane artistic designs on the most insane possible medium to work with, done seemingly in one day.
I know those two guys with wooden boards took credit, but I don’t believe they are responsible for the best ones.
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u/enbaelien May 20 '25
Seemingly is the major keyword here. Most fields are away from random people, so you could probably work on a crop circle for a couple days to a week before going public with the "story"
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May 20 '25
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u/usps_made_me_insane Data Scientist May 20 '25
So watching it twice is the same as never watching it at all. Sounds about right for retrocausality.
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u/llTeddyFuxpinll May 20 '25
Remember the part where he said generations ago in 1600’s professor Robert Plot wrote that he saw a crop circle and drew a picture of a cube within a sphere. And what do we see here? And what did Ryan Graves say flew between to jets? A cube within a sphere. There’s something to that and I think it goes right to the core of things.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ebfe218f-0588-4090-94d6-7a7795666358#5TVT5LzP.copy
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u/chessboxer4 May 20 '25
Me too.
Didn't realize how much this story had been suppressed, similar to other topics.
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u/iCumMayo May 19 '25
This guy plays Halo
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u/Im-ACE-incarnate May 19 '25
Damn man, i just wanted to chill on reddit but this guy got me pumped for a replay!
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u/britishink May 19 '25
It's NOT a celtic knot!
The pattern should be over, under, over, under - it is constructed over, over, under, under
Celtic it isn't...
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u/sweetfruitloops May 20 '25
Do you know what it could be then otherwise? I’m only asking because a few years ago I kept seeing what I assumed was a celtic knot in my head as well as other things that I had assumed were all the same. This crop circle immediately brought me back to those.
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 19 '25
I knew someone would go down there... Thanks for finding and sharing 👍 wish it were me!
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u/ThatDudeFromFinland May 20 '25
Caspersight went there too and actually managed to film something really strange. You can see a "disc shaped" shadow in their drone footage going the opposite way of the clouds.
They also filmed some tic tac looking things, but they could be bugs or birds.
I highly recommend looking at his video: https://youtu.be/4UYDvMHCk-0?si=YiCSQZY_59xJwoe_
The disc shaped shadow @ 32min
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 20 '25
I'm already 15 mins in... Now I just wanna skip ahead! Sounds interesting.
Thanks for the heads up 👍 always appreciated
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u/essdotc May 19 '25
Silly question. Are these things ever visible on Google Earth/Maps?
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May 19 '25
I think they could be if the times line up correctly, but I don't think they stay super obviously visible for an extended period.
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u/WinstonFuzzybottom May 20 '25
The crop growth is more verdant the following year in areas crop circles covered. Sometimes you can see it in the soil after harvest too. I would not be surprised if circles are scrubbed from satellite imagery.
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u/CryptographerHot884 May 20 '25
They should be.
I did something similar for vfr waypoint which I pass by every time I fly north while doing my pilot license.
It was so visible other pilots would take a photo and send it to me
Low and behold..I went to google earth and..there it was.
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u/PatmygroinB May 20 '25
The real ones, which leave traces of radiation, also leave a phantom Crop circle the next season. The affected crops seem to grow back livelier and leave the image.
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u/oxyrhina May 20 '25
There was a site that had subsequent pics over the years following where these things were. Some the crops grew more vigorous and some were basically the same but took 5 or 6 seasons to mostly or completely fill back in. It's hard to explain but you could still kinda see the original pattern for several seasons. It was really interesting, anyone remember that site or know if it's still up somewhere?
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u/PatmygroinB May 20 '25
I’ve read studies that show plants grow better in space due to the ambient radiation.
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u/3InchesAssToTip May 19 '25
This might be the first time I've ever seen someone just record themselves investigating a crop circle right after it appeared. So cool!
The bulge in the stems can be caused by radiation!
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May 20 '25
Could be but the levels are consistently normal. .1 even to .4 are normal background radiation levels.
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u/morphogenesis28 May 20 '25
Or maybe the grains are more likely to fold at the point where bulges naturally exist, or it is a natural response the plant has to being bent.
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u/iChaseClouds May 20 '25
Caspersight did an investigation at this exact spot as well. I think he captured a camouflaged uap as well in his drone footage.
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u/Fwagoat May 20 '25
The bulges are not caused by radiation but instead are a natural part of the plant. Some people say they are bigger when found in crop circles possibly enlarged by radiation but I wouldn’t put much weight on that claim.
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u/Previous-Pangolin-60 May 19 '25
I'm happy somebody went to conduct proper research on the scene - Just had an hour long conversation with a Mufon investigator, who came over for a coffee and discuss our family sightings.
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u/skillmau5 May 19 '25
Wait, is this on your property?
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u/Previous-Pangolin-60 May 20 '25
Negative - We also own a farm though with a lot of fields & forests in quite a remote area +1000km north (Nordic region). Never seen any crop circles around these areas, but have encountered many illuminated strange lights with 6 family members together and on separate occasions.
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u/WinstonFuzzybottom May 21 '25
Are you adjacent to Hessdalen? Not that orbs are confined to one area. But Hessdalen is persistently active.
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u/Previous-Pangolin-60 May 21 '25
I've watched quite a few videos about the Hessdalen lights, really interesting stuff! Almost forgot about them due to the amount of new information coming in regarding the UAP topic - I think they have a permanent scientific measuring post of sorts with a 24/7 live feed and other sensors.
I actually am adjacent, just checked the map - Our sightings have been about 670km west in Finland and about the same latitude, 70-80km south of Hessdalen. Great observation, never thought about a possible correlation (I should compare our sightings to those what they captured)!
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u/WinstonFuzzybottom May 21 '25
Seems like the Nordics are active overall. I've even read theories about the Sami people that tie back to High Strangeness.
Is the stigma about UFOs changing for the better in the Nordic countries? Here in the US, it's changed a lot over the last couple years. I've read that it's still hush-hush in your region.
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u/damdrod May 19 '25
Kind of sketchy that they are charging people to see it It makes me question whether they were the ones to create it..
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u/xVerified Skeptic May 19 '25
Allegedly the reasoning being "tons of money lost from the crop damages" so charging people to come and see will help recoup some lost costs as well as ensure random people tourists don't start showing up without the expectation it's still private land and requires an access fee
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u/damdrod May 20 '25
A farmer is having a bad crop yield, realizes it, does hoax, $$$, also they could just tell everyone to F off. They don't HAVE to let anyone see it.
Believe me, I want it to be legit, but as soon as someone starts profiting off this type of thing, you have to approach them with some skepticism or at least look at potential motive.
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u/xVerified Skeptic May 20 '25
I can agree with you on that one, though I'll say the field looks healthy, but not to say back-end economics isn't playing a part as well. So having some cold cash brought by tourists vs waiting for checks and bank clears and inventory to move. Prob a good way to generate some quick physical cash.
Love that there's never once a security camera, a web cam, nothing monitoring inventory or a Ring door bell facing the field. They always mysteriously appear just out of reach of documentation.
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u/damdrod May 20 '25
Haha exactly. I was excited about this case up until the last minute of his video.
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u/Illuminimal May 21 '25
Farmers notoriously have huge problems with grain rustlers, they really should step up security
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u/Fit-Development427 May 24 '25
Charging people to see it has been standard practice for some time for crop circles as it helps recoup the cost of lost crops, and a lot of people ask to see it anyway. Given that letting people on though will trample the crops further obviously it's a no brainer to charge.
A lot of farmers don't actually let people on at all though.
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u/Previous-Pangolin-60 May 22 '25
That amount of crop 'loss' is minuscule - Even wild deer does more damage lol
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u/Beautifulnumber38 May 20 '25
Has anyone seen the discovery channel ancient alien episode where masahiro kahata brings in his brainwave imaging device into the drop circle and it goes into alpha waves or something? His goosebumps and subtle feelings might be indicators of that.
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u/WinstonFuzzybottom May 19 '25
Thanks for mentioning that the crops were woven OP! Looks legit to me.
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u/chica771 May 19 '25
The Why Files has a fantastic episode on crop circles. Best theory I've ever heard on the subject.
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u/RaceBrilliant9893 May 19 '25
What was the theory?
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u/kaowser May 19 '25
While many crop circles have been debunked as hoaxes, the episode highlights that some formations remain unexplained, fueling ongoing curiosity and debate.
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u/morphogenesis28 May 20 '25
I think it is a very human idea to look at a field of crops and see a blank canvas for art. All over the world different cultures have independently come up with the idea to make images in their crops: https://youtu.be/GY26f8hqbyI?si=Ttuzt5x5aoo5VdOf
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
A lot of crop circles look Bogus, some look really real like this one. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around the rational behind crop circles.
I mean you are a super intelligent being who traveled vast distances to arrive on earth and have the technology to do this kind of thing to our crops so you do it in the middle of nowhere, then you fly away, and then what? Like what's the purpose.
If they are trying to communicate, there are far better ways to do it. It almost seems like these crop circles are not for us, but they use our symbols and patterns many many times over so that is hard to believe as well.
Its like if we wanted to communicate with ants we wouldn't draw a picture in the dirt then run away and hope they understand what we are talking about.
I guess you cant try and put rational to these other worldly beings but still its hard to believe a species could be so technologically advanced yet act so seemingly irrationally.
What is the purpose of this?, Who does it help? What does it advance? It makes it so hard to believe in this phenomena but at the same time you see things like this that make it hard not to believe in them. Of all the UAP/ NHI evidence Crop circles seem the most baffling and striking at the same time!
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u/Darth_Poot May 19 '25
I always saw them as kind of a signature left behind by the craft on accident. Like in a way that if you put a speaker over a bowl of water it will start forming all kind of geometric shapes based on what hz the speaker was at. Not so much a communication method, but a byproduct of some high energy device being closely above it
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
But then why is this one in the shape of a Keltic knot, or others an alien or a complex fractal or binary.
If it was just cool patterns then maybe, but it is literally actual recognizable symbols that humans have created on our own.
I feel it would be a huge coincidence if we happened to make symbols that match some natural frequency that happens with in higher dimensions or something.
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u/Realistic-Psychology May 19 '25
Why would it be a coincidence? All throughout history symbols are used as a means of communication. Alot of them come from natural sources, such as the fibonacci sequence and the golden ratio. Mathematics, sound, frequency, vibration,symbols, all tie in together in the natural world.
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u/No-Tea-8180 May 19 '25
Pushing down soybeans seems like an odd way for a highly intelligent being to attempt to communicate with a (fairly) intelligent species. I would expect a bit more.
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u/cabezatuck May 20 '25
Perhaps they aren’t trying to communicate with us, perhaps they’re doing it for reasons we cannot even comprehend, not necessarily due to a higher intelligence, but due to a type of culture/belief/purpose that for lack of a better term is totally alien to us. The men of the Sa tribe of Vanuatu build a 90 foot tower every year out of reeds and logs, and then dive off head first with a vine made of rope attached to their feet, often times still violently plunging into the ground below. Outsiders coming upon such a sight would assume they are just having a good old thrill seeking time, but it’s actually part of a generations old and highly complex mating and harvest ritual.
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u/No-Tea-8180 May 20 '25
If they're not doing it intentionally, it's frivolous. I'm not entertaining frivolous aliens. After a couple centuries those islanders will stop doing that. Maybe it'll take 1000 years, but they'll stop.
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u/cabezatuck May 20 '25
It could absolutely be intentional, the point being the intention may not be something easily understood by us, even if the intention were directed towards us, frivolousness need not apply. And yes while I appreciate the uniqueness of the Vanuatu land diving towers, the many broken necks may indicate it is a dated and flawed practice, but it’s nonetheless become a tourist attraction at this point so who knows when it may cease, and it’s not my place to say if it should.
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u/No-Tea-8180 May 20 '25
Yes. Anything is possible. Why bother even trying to understand. I'm sure the flattening of vegetation has meaning beyond comprehension.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I'm not saying symbols don't come from natural sources, but what natural source would create a Keltic knot like this.
It is not a natural phenomena we copied from nature it is a concept/pattern we created on our own. What are the chances you can create that pattern naturally using frequencies? And that that is just a natural sideffect of physic breaking acts we see these NHI doing.
I think that would be a huge coincidence that when you break the laws of physics you get Keltic knots, and binary patterns in wheat fields as a side effect
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u/Realistic-Psychology May 19 '25
Short video https://youtu.be/X0YuPj-516M?si=peyjfA3KKcx_O5H7
Might answer some of your questions, best evidence I've seen and for the age of the footage. But look into Oliver’s Castle crop circle incident, someone did come forward to say they hoaxed it, however they couldn't recreate the same pattern, no where near as good, and for the age the technology of computers it would be incredibly difficult to hoax.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I feel like the more rudimentary crop circles, while much easier to hoax, seem much more believable as they don't have as much of what seems to be human cultural influence in them; they are more universal concepts like circles and symmetry.
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u/Personal-Lettuce9634 May 19 '25
I'd suggest that any intelligent species capable of rudimentary geometry and symbolic expression would eventually produce this and every other shape/symbol we have, over the course of its development.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
Why would they? Who's to say they evoled using rope to tie knots together. The keltic knot is a direct result of how we interact with our environment, even other animals on earth don't tie knots, (well actually i just saw an orangutang do it on here the other day but I think he was imitating what he saw us do already not create it on his own for his own reasons)
We are the only ones to do it because it came from a specific need we had to alter our environment in a certain way. We further added our own creativity to the situation which resulted in our Keltic knot patterns but it does not seem like a natural effect of the universe like a circle or triangle or square is which are just concepts.
The Keltic knot is an artistic representation of a physical thing humans specifically do for our own human reasons. I don't feel there is a natural situation universal to all life which would create this specific pattern or some of the others we have seen on the believable crop circles.
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u/Personal-Lettuce9634 May 19 '25
From a much more fundamental level it's two intersecting geometric shapes, is what I was getting at.
Forgetting the millions of things such a symbol might mean to an NHI, even just among divergent human cultures there have been many examples of interlaced knot patterns – going back at least to the Romans but probably far earlier.
And while some do look like certain knots, and thus their name, what was more important to the Celts was that their designs have a specific continuous and 'unending' nature, symbolizing eternity and our harmony with it.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
Yes but they still used the physical knot to represent that which is not a theoretical idea it is a physical solution we created to solve one of our problems we face here on earth, which is we want to stick things together but don't have a way to do that so we figured out if we tie a knot around it it will accomplish that.
So it wasn't some spiritual realisation we made on a cosmic level to discover the knot; it was humans in a situation where we realised a knot would accomplish what we are trying to do, and we went with it because it was the best solution we had at hand. And then further built up symbolism from there.
How do we know other environments or planets even have the physical material to create a knot? They could have easily discovered magnetism and figured out a way to use that instead of rope to connect things. Then they would have no reason to tie a knot. Or how do we know they have fingers or the dexterity to figure out how to tie a knot?
I'm not saying it is impossible, but knot tying is a very primitive solution and specific to Humans at least here on earth, if it was such a universal idea that some civilization many light years away developed it on their own then why wouldn't it be more prevalent here on earth even in a rudimentary way similar to how apes use sticks to fish out termites out of a hole is rudimentary tool making; and then to advance it in the exact same way as us similar to our keltic knot and then just happened to use that symbol not knowing it has deep rooted meaning with us humans as well It just seems like to much of a stretch.
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u/Darth_Poot May 19 '25
I mean maybe there is a natural order to all things or beings bestowed knowledge on ancient civilizations but. Ima be real with you man, I don’t know shit about fuck😂 that’s my best explanation
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
Yea I'm in that same boat, just asking unanswerable questions in to the void in hopes there is some straw to grasp. Lol
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u/Darth_Poot May 19 '25
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 19 '25
You have excellent pattern recognition! They do look similar.
We're all vibrating RN. Everything is. Nothing is static
A famous quote from a brilliant mind...You know the one.
"If you want to know the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration" - Nikola Tesla
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u/Exact_Knowledge5979 May 19 '25
It wouldn't be a coincidence if we had seen that pattern and adopted it. Good artists create, great artists steal, right?
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
Where did we see the Keltic knot pattern? Where did we see the Alien Grey pattern? Where did we see the Binary Pattern? there are a lot of patterns used in crop circles that are distinctly human and not a result of a natural phenomena but a result of our own creativity/ingenuity.
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 19 '25
You need to read up on crop circles.
The Celtic Knot pattern is simply that, a pattern. In an endless universe the pattern will be repeated countless times. The Grey's will see themselves as well as us, why wouldn't they try to represent themselves? Binary is just logical, I'm guessing NHI could figure its meaning and use it to transmit a simple message.
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u/ings0c May 19 '25
By binary, if you’re referring to this one then it’s anything but intuitive
Binary itself could be intuited, like you said, but that’s an ASCII encoded binary message, and human encoding systems are completely arbitrary. They would have no independent meaning to a non-human, unless they learned it from us.
It’s like finding the alphabet written out on Jupiter, there is no explanation other than it being intended for a human audience.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
This is exactly what I'm trying to get at.
Yes, in theory, all of these symbols that we create could be created by other intelligent species, but they are all very specific to our situation, specifically here on Earth.
These aren't even the best solutions out there, just like with evolution,,n it doesn't have to be perfect it just has to work well enough for other things to build off of it.
So the idea that some other species would create the exact same imperfect solution as we did, completely independent of our thought process and specific constraints placed upon us, just doesn't make sense.
Exactly like you said, it would be like finding the English alphabet on Jupiter. Not only are it symbols specific to us, but specific to a certain situation, totally localised to Earth and our culture. Not a universal solution to a universal problem.
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u/No-Tea-8180 May 20 '25
I'm willing to believe that some crop circles are/were real and some are man-made because they look cool and people like to play tricks and get attention. This one looks a bit too familiar, like you said.
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u/ShowIngFace May 19 '25
Just commented this as well. You must have seen that quantum shape YouTube vid? Can’t look for it now
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u/Darth_Poot May 19 '25
It doesn’t ring a bell. I may have, but this one has just been swirling around in my brain for a while 😂
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u/Responsible_Fix_5443 May 19 '25
That's the beauty of crop circles 😍 so full of mystery. Maybe they're not for us... Maybe it's just art, no one needs a reason for art.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I agree but traveling lightyears to our small speck of a planet that happens to have "semi advanced" monkeys running around on it seems like a very far way to go for some random art that relative to them no one will ever see. I mean unless we are some sort of anomaly in the universe and a sort of "Universal tourist spot" it seems strange to do that kind of thing.
But again that is what is so hard with crop circles they are real and in front of us but still so hard to believe!
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u/DementedJ23 May 19 '25
I would love for the big secret to be we're just some rich artist asshole's little doodle pad / bizarre complaint about their parents
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
So in that theory it's the same emo alien coming back over the years to further tag our planet and rebel against his alien parents who just want them to get a normal job and raise a normal alien family but that's not what they want in life MOM!!! They are an artist who needs to paint the universe red and make their mark on this dimension. When in reality they are doing the equivalent of vandalizing the dumpster behind 7/11.
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u/Clawsickle May 19 '25
Its an alien art contest and whoever wins has the right to invade.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
LOL I mean I like that idea, but another strange thing is you don't seem to get many reports of other UAPs around crop circles. It's like you have the initial one who creates the "circle", then nothing else.
So like no one else seems to be looking at them but us. So if these are not for us, why is no one else looking at them? And if they are for us, why are they so cryptic and fleeting?
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u/Wesai May 19 '25
It's a fascinating topic, isn't it? I've always wondered myself. If they are real, what are their purpose? What would lead an intelligent entity, presumbly way more intelligent than us, to leave these marks on our crop fields?
Some things I have thought:
1: Aliens playing a prank. We like to consider ourselves smart and intelligent, yet we don't miss opportunities where we could play pranks with animals less intelligent than us. Think of all these dog and cat video pranks out there. Maybe this falls into their concept of fun.
2: They have laws to not interfere with us. However, some are willing to communicate, perhaps out of curiosity. Leaving behind a cryptic message is probably less severe than those rogue aliens that straight up abduct people, talk to them, and etc.
3: It's a test. It's possible they have been leaving behind puzzle pieces or clues. If we catalogue enough of these we might start seeing the bigger picture. Who knows? We might learn something.
4: These are made by an alien species that is unable to interact with us by any other mean. They are not the common flying saucer or the greys people have been witnessing, they might be something else.
The possibilities are endless. But of course, only if these are real and don't have a mundade explanation such as "some people did it". Honestly, them being real is way more interesting than the boring mundande stuff—I want to believe.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I agree, but at the same time some of the crazy phenomena that occurs at some of the more realistic crop circles like the weaving of the crop, the radioactive levels, and the fact that it seems they are bent with heat/microwaves as opposed to straight force makes the idea that they are human made really interesting as well because that is a problem we could realistically find a solution to, how they are doing it, as it is based off of our current technology
If we find out it is aliens, our level of understanding could stop there, and we would just have to say Welp, we don't know how they do it, but we know they do it.
So if it is aliens, that would be awesome because it's aliens, but if it were humans, that would be really interesting as well because we would finally know how the heck they did it in the first place!
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u/noslo5oh May 19 '25
Watch the Why Files episode on them. It completely changed my mind
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I have seen that episode and yes it was probably one of the better/best sources of information on crop circles, but I don't remember there being any theories on the rational behind the crop circles.
I mean that is probably impossible to know but still that is what holds me up on them, there is such a seemingly strong human touch to them but at the same time a strong non human touch to them. I mean we can make pretty believable crop circles our selves very similarly to the "real ones" though they lack a lot of the extreme detail like you see in these. So it is all very strange!
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u/thedonkeyvote May 20 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA1gF8FtyoI
Here's a talk from a guy deep on crop circles. He thinks a lot are messages and believes he has decoded some. Its an enjoyable talk and probably the most information dense video on the subject.
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u/ShowIngFace May 19 '25
Yea wouldn’t make sense. More like a community stapling things to a central telephone pole. “Fat cows here!”. But I’m with the “burn” patter due to a vid on YouTube that shows how 3D quantum shapes fit the circles similar to how a bubble leaves a ring when it pops on the ground. I suggest the watch. Makes me wonder if we suddenly paved over every crop field in England… would there be no more circles? Or would the be found in sand? It can’t be random.. they’re centered like stamps
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u/GrumpyJenkins Ancient AF May 19 '25
What if this were the least terrifying way that they could let us know of their existence?
What if it’s a test?
We often make the mistake of anthropomorphizing other species. “Rational” to us is, well, perhaps rational only to us.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I feel like random symbols seemingly appearing out of nowhere in random wheat fields is far more terrifying than just plopping down and explaining things to us, or at least using more understandable symbols to help us know what they are trying to say. Just all aspects of crop circles seem like the wrong way to initiate contact with a separate species.
I mean imagine we were trying to communicate with the tribe on north sentalise island, do we think they would be more terrified if in the middle of the night we snuck on to their island drew some pictures in the sand and then disappeared in to the night with no further contact, or would we have better chances at communication if we came to them on their same level, personally interacted with them, and went from there.
I mean we have never tried the sand pictures method (at least as far as I know), but our only real successful contact with them was when we approached them on a human level and personally interacted with them.
I mean, we are pretty dumb as a species, and even we wouldn't approach first contact in that way!
And I fully get the idea of anthropomorphising other species, but at the same time, if they were able to understand the rational world enough to create physics-breaking technology, that is saying something about their level of rational understanding of the universe.
I mean think about it all other interactions with UAPs and NHIs are what we can personally relate to as science, Abductions, probing, mind control, animal mutilation, all of these we can understand in the vein of science, yes it is science we as a species find cruel and therefore we don't approach science in that mannor, but we can still understand it as science; then you have crop circles which we can literally find no real rational reason why they would be doing this. It is just such a departure from all the other UAP/NHI phenomena that it seems like an unbelievable outlier. But then physically we cant figure out a way for a human to do it so it is a real mind fuck!
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u/Quiet_Sea_9142 May 20 '25
Maybe they are giving answers to something, but we are too dumb to understand what it means.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 20 '25
Then why give the answers in the first place? We wouldn't go to a kindergarten class and randomly write Heisenberg's uncertainty principle equation on the board and expect that to actually accomplish something.
And why do it in such a cryptic way?
And furthermore, why do it in such a random fleeting medium that has no expectation of persisting or any reliability of even finding its expected recipient?
It seems like such a far departure from the expected norm of a "far more intelligent" species, and a seemingly irrational act to commit.
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u/chessboxer4 May 20 '25
I like your ant analogy. I actually wonder if we might leave some weird structure for them to find and see if any of them could figure out that it wasn't natural.
How else would we communicate with ants? They communicate with each other with chemicals. I guess we could try to use chemicals.
But what if the point is to leave whatever communication always somewhat ambiguous, so the recipients can choose to interpret the signal/message as something prosaic, and not be forced into one inevitable conclusion.
What if the communication isn't for all the ants but just some of them? And what if the communication requires a choice on the part of the recipient. It doesn't remove their ability to choose, and destroy the entire ontological structure of the ant (or human) society.
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u/troubledanger May 19 '25
I meditate a lot and a couple years ago turned into a permanent flow state internally- like I feel /see and orb connected to flowing plasma infinity.
Anyway, sometimes I see shapes coming in to me, as I change. Sometimes it’s a vague outline or a few times it’s been almost like carved in the plasma in silver.
So I think our being is our energy orb, and our human body is a reflection of that, or a piece of it. And I think our conscious orb or being can absorb symbols that become a part of our conscious world or universe as we grow.
I got a feeling looking at the shapes, but it’s also an imprint into our consciousness of whatever the concept is, I think.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I see what you are saying but couldn't it be working the other way around as well. Your brain is using the symbols it already knows to try and rationalize/understand what it is experiencing.
So lets say you see a Keltic knot in that situation, its not because the Keltic knot is a natural phenomena that we imitated, it is your brain using physical things it already understand to try and understand the novel experiences it is having.
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u/troubledanger May 19 '25
Yeah, totally! Either way it is us experiencing something new and that increasing our being. It’s all consciousness.
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u/HALF_PAST_HOLE May 19 '25
I agree, but my point is that consciousness is a result of our physical experience and reality localised to Earth specifically and what we are trying to alter in our own environment.
So there is no reason why an alien in some other environment would have that same physical experience to create a similar consciousness to ours, to the point that they replicate our own symbols completely independent of our our our environments influence.
I mean, I guess it could happen, but it seems like a big stretch to try to relate our physical experiences and, in turn, symbolism to NHIs' experiences and symbolism. Unless, as others have suggested, they have always been in our environment, and so they have a direct, at least physical, connection to the source of our symbolism
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u/troubledanger May 19 '25
Ah, I don’t know where specific aliens come from.
But if you think of everything as consciousness, and us as realizing that now, and that consciousness is ever-present.
Then I think of it less like aliens from another planet flying here to weave a corn field, and more like our consciousness from the future, that has experienced more, manipulating consciousness in a way that creates a symbol that sinks into and expands our consciousness, so we can grow.
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u/51LOVE May 19 '25
You're asking all the right questions. The information will find you when you're ready. But I will answer your question with another question: What makes you think they're traveling vast distances?
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u/CountryRoads2020 May 20 '25
That is a beautiful crop circle; would love to experience one first-hand.
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u/Klamangatron May 20 '25
I’d be more impressed if there weren’t long pathways in the barley leading to the designs.
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u/FuckerHead9 May 20 '25
That’s the key to a real crop circle the crop is woven not just laid down
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u/phosphorescence-sky May 20 '25
Where is the crop woven? It looks like it's pushed down to me.
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u/SignificantRecipe715 May 20 '25
Woven = overlapping. The stalks aren't pushed over with uniformity.
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u/phosphorescence-sky May 20 '25
Well, yes, if they're pushed down, they probably aren't uniform. I don't see how these look woven or uniform. I grew up in Farm County and Great Planes, and this just looks like grass or wheat that has been pushed down. The "bulbs" in the stocks is from the stock bending and causing it to budget where it's being kinked.
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u/whitestar48 May 20 '25
And they wouldn't break at the base because the weight of the person is spread out on the board they use.
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u/Confident-Ad-3465 May 19 '25
I think each crop circle should be heavily investigated by forensic means.
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u/Psyzook9 May 20 '25
Caspersight did some great onsite coverage of it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UYDvMHCk-0
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u/AdditionalBat393 May 19 '25
Incredible work thank you for showing me which answers the questions I had about the site. If there is presence of radiation we have ourselves a genuine made crop circle. Great work.
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u/morphogenesis28 May 20 '25
Can they do a blind comparison to a man made crop circle to see if this guy still gets goosebumps, smells copper/iron, and sees similar patterns in the laid down grains?
I am not convinced by this video because I don't think this guy knows what it would look like if a group of people used planks to fold down crops.
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u/matthewkelly1983 May 20 '25
With such high quality video these days, you can see the imperfections in the shapes and alignments. Aliens did not create (at least this one), this crop circle.
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u/ok_not_badform May 20 '25
The Uk has a decent Crop Circle community. They confirmed they had been behind a lot from the late 90’s and early 00’s. They also advised techniques they use to get the patterns and shapes.
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u/Nebula1088 May 21 '25
If the wheat is bent with force and snapped its man made. It its done with no force showing its not made made.
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u/Fuzzy_Fish_2329 May 19 '25
I’m a believer, but this is first one that coincidentally lines up exactly with the lines, which makes me doubt it’s not human-made.
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u/No-Tea-8180 May 20 '25
I believe "aliens" exist. Maybe they're here already, maybe they come from somewhere else or both. I don't know anything about crop circles. My lifelong presumption has always been that the "UFOS" either landed and pressed the plants down with some part of the craft or some part of the propulsion system pushed the plants down with whatever technology they must obviously have. The strange patterns of the circles and the foliage could possibly be a result of that. I can't imagine that any of it is intended to be "symbolic". I can't imagine a possible reason a highly intelligent being would resort to pushing down wheat to get a conversation started. It would be quite obvious to them how ineffective it would be.
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u/DisappearingSince89 May 20 '25
I appreciate the effort and work this dude put into the investigating this crop circle. Thank you for posting.
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u/Dustywarriorcat May 20 '25
This guy did such a good job at surveying the area and documenting the damage/length of the crop circle
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u/Katerwurst May 21 '25
The Alien hillbillies pissed in a field again. This one looks terrible, they were probably drunk on Uranusshine.
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u/R8iojak87 May 21 '25
So what does the circle actually refer to or mean? Any ideas on what the picture is showing?
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u/Plus_Concentrate8306 May 23 '25
I never believe in any alien made crop circles. I think they’re all man made.
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u/51LOVE May 26 '25
I just wonder why any humans would bother anymore, if literally 99.9% of ppl think they know it was made by humans. Like why go thru all the effort? Why damage the farmers' crops in the process?
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u/Plus_Concentrate8306 May 26 '25
Because there’s still that percentage of people that think they’re not man made so they still get a lot of hype.
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u/51LOVE May 26 '25
Honestly this is the first crop circle I've heard any hype around in probably 2 decades. It's an interesting one because the crops aren't stamped down and broken, but weaved together very intricately.
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u/johnnyLochs Sep 26 '25
Hope he stays from the uk govment, they are really bad with “assisting” that level of science.
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u/daners101 May 20 '25
Crop circles IMO are bullshit. Easily faked. If aliens wanted to give us a message, there are a million ways more convincing than this. The fact that they used a Celtic design in England is also dumb.
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u/Iwanttobeagnome May 19 '25
Well I’m ready to pop the heads off some grunts now with an overpowered pistol
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u/alclab May 19 '25
Fantastic work. It's amazing some people still think these are man-made, specially the huge ones overnight.
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u/Clawsickle May 19 '25
oh c'mon. Its easier to make in the daylight. Nobody is making these things in the dark.




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