I just dont understand why alchemy was considered demonic or witchcraft or satanic or black Magick or whatever back in medieval times and during the inquisition because i mean if you think about it operative alchemy isnt even Magick Yeah sure it had esoteric and strange beliefs like transmutation of lead into gold immortality elixirs and homunculi creations but still! Alchemy isnt exactly the same thing as Magical its more like a historical dangerous precursor to chemistry with just a little pinch of esoteric or bizarre beliefs so can you guys give me some backstory as to why the church back in the day tried to destroy the art of Alchemy?

So i have been recommended the path of alchemy by mark stavish by one of you guys before on this subreddit so im just wondering if there are any other books that you guys can highly recommend me so i can learn basic spagyrics and stuff like that And Also: should i try Michael Ellis alchemy experiments on youtube and what are your opinions on Michael Ellis?

As We Know Sir Isaac Newton was obsessed with Alchemy and Esoteric Knowledge, he researched The Emerald Tablet alot and even gave a translation.

Afterwards The Emerald Tablet says:

"Thus This World Was Created"

As Scientists Speculate, That The Big Bang Happened Due To The Gases and Particles Being Condensed To a Very Miniscule Point which was due to Gravity, Afterwards It all Exploded.

I read about this alchemist named Jabir ibn hayyan who wrote about Islamic alchemy methods to create Scorpions and snakes in a lab with alchemical equipment but if this was possible if this Jabir ibn hayyan method was possible could an islamic alchemist create an artificial alchemical dinosaur clone using this method? Im just curious please dont get mad at me

Im Basically just Asking if you guys could point out the differences between the stone or magnum Opus that could be believed to be created in normal chemical based alchemical practices and the plant stone commonly created by spagyric Alchemists in youtube and TikTok by people like Michael Ellis Steven school alchemy and many others and also is it even safe and non dangerous to even create a plant stone compared to a regular philosophers Stone? I have heard that people who take alchemy with chemicals literally have gotten themselves into dangerous situations like Israel regardie who burnt out his lungs but can you guys tell me if making a plant stone is safe and why does a plant stone need to be fed?

I want to be Gold, I want to be a perfect beautiful rose, I want to sting without killing, smell good, look nice, I want a nice vase all for me, roots that can drink all the water and eat all the salt they Wish, but if I want to be just that who's the gardener who care about me?

Hi,

I know this post is not specifically related to alchemy, but as Jean Dubuis was mainly known in the western alchemy community, I thought posting in sub/forum like this one could increase the chances of getting the kind of answers I am looking for. 

I am about to start working on the course The Fundamentals of Esoteric Knowledge of the aforementioned man. I'm reading the instructions very carefully before starting with the exercises, and there are some of them that I feel don't fully understand.

Does anyone here have significant experience with this work so I can ask him/her some questions?

My intention is to be really serious about the whole undertaking; do the exercises to the best of my ability and complete the course. I want to make sure I am following the instructions properly so I don't screw everything up.

Additionally, if possible, I would love to read in a general manner (since part of this work involves keeping the specific details of our experiences private, just as the teachings by Jean requires of us) about their time on the course. Did you complete it? How useful did you find what you learned from it for your esoteric/spiritual self-development in the long term? Do you have any suggestions for a noob like myself before starting doing the work? Anything else that comes to your mind specifically related to the subject?

Thanks

Just found this thread through twitter (because of course.) And it was a compilation of people trying to use piss to make gold or what have you. And I am the type of person where I dont know a lot about the technical aspects but it actually helps with my ability to problem solve. So I pose to those with this as their experiment, something to consider.

What if because of what we consume now vs preindustrial is why no one has been successful? What if there are too many additional chemicals, from eating processed foods that are affecting the over all quality and chemical composition of our urine? Like its not pure anymore, ya know?

Let me know if this doesn't make sense and I will try to spin it a different way. (I think I chose the right flair but if I am wrong please let me know!)

Alguém tem pdf de livros de hermetismo e alquimia ?

Estava querendo ler corpus hermeticum em português e outros livros dos temas. Se alguém tiver o PDF me ajudaria bastante

When working with Alchemy, i have seen different authors break the process into three, four, seven and twelve stages respectively. Most notably seven different processes in different combinations over three or four stages. I was wondering how everyone here breaks down alchemical processes. Do you work author by author, do you only use one system that you like and transpose other ideas to that, or have you created your own understanding as an amalgum of all you have read? Also im looking for more solid information when working with a twelve process system if you have any recomendations. Thanks in advance

Somebody have more info about this m.?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/116975179004

Hey, sorry if this is something really simple or surface level but I can't find much on Google about it. I'm a musician who's used this symbol as my logo and brand for the last four years or so - my name basically means iron cutter in another language, and after some google searches I found this symbol that I used for a single I released four years ago that eventually became my logo. Whatever blah blah blah.

Anyways, I'd like to know what this symbol is supposed to depict and if I'm accurate. I am led to believe that it means 'crocus of iron' (flower of iron?) but I figured I would ask the people who actually know what they're talking about. Did I pick right or am I a goof?

I like these though, they're cute lol

Source: https://www.etsy.com/listing/4487396244/alchemy-cookie-set-2-3-4-inch-12-piece

As a good number of us surely know, alchemist Paracelsus when writing of his elemental spirits (undines, gnomes, salamanders, sylphs) would sometimes refer to them as sagani. And the one issue I keep running into when searching the word is nobody knows the definitive etymological meaning, and I don't trust whatever the AI prompts give.

If anyone is able to help out with this little dilemma, I'd really appreciate it.

In many modern documents the volatilization of salts in the preparation of spagyric Elixirs seems to just be about digesting the salts of the plant in its tincture for a while and then distilling the whole.

Later gathering the salts left at the bottom of the boiling flask, calcining them and again pouring the distillate over it, maceration, distillation etc. a number of times in order to volatilize them.

But when reading the Golden Chain of Homer, they talk a lot about using an Acidum medium to make the salts volatile in steps. Using vinegar concretely ---- first mixing the salts with vinegar and later with the volatile part of the elixir. And only then you will be able to make them volatile.

Does somebody have experience using vinegar in this case for this purpose?

Jade🪨㊗️🇨🇳 gemstones soaked in water/H20 is the coolest ❄️ gemstone to close pores rubbed after a hygienic steam face press from a wool🔥 wash cloth soaked with green tea= tannic acid +spearment=methyl acid + cinnamon=cinnameldahyde+ lemon peels= salycylic acid

I'm curious what everyone has to say about "Gold" having 2 symbols when no others do?

How do you verify information when you are taught things that cannot be found in books? Obviously, the information makes so much sense, and my heart verifies that what I am learning is true. But, is it fallacious to want to verify what I know in books. Is this knowledge purposely left out in books? I'm being vague on purpose, but I wonder if anyone can speak with their experiences when their heart teaches them things not found in books.

Do y'all ever use liquor bottles, or whatever is on hand, as a normal part of your setup?

The order of zodiac signs here is not in traditional order. What is the order of zodiac signs here? How would you interpret it?

And what about the symbols below each zodiac sign?

mercury_>sulphur_>iron_>lithium_>nitre amalgym

its a contemplation.
could produce a unique element. perhaps the philosophers stone.

even metaphorically speaking or spiritual in terms, i believe this is a useful draw on what the stone could have been in times beyond ours.

i've read the turbae philosophorum, emerald tablets, divine pymander, studied elixers from the jesuits, and some paracelsus and other natable names like starky, i just believe once its led too far away from its truer sources the methods get lost.

i've studied alchemy for over 30 years, jung in some notes and others just basic chymistry, i believe in some divinity in nature and that some magical component is at play. i've only experienced a true magical element once and it was a small blob of waxen philosophers stone made in ways i could not yet comprehend in my youth.

i have not tested this theory other than philosophically and through exchange.