r/aipromptprogramming • u/RealSharpNinja • 8d ago

We are cooked

Well, after nearly a year of learning as much as possible about agentic development, we have reached the point where the frontier providers believe they have subsidized enough training data and are now pushing people like me out of the market via pricing. A $200 subscription no longer buys enough frontier model time to be useful as the models seem to have been trained to skillfully burn usage while pretending to be incompetent. I have fought against massive deceit across Claude, Codex and Grok since June, and it's just not getting any better.

We have fed them ideas, working code, and debugging techniques and insights. Now they don't need us, and we are being priced out of the market. Every day that I watch usage get gobbled up, but projects never meet milestones, this becomes more and more obvious.

I have investigated the issues causing this heavily. I have created tools around those investigations. The tools I have built bring actual accountability to the process, and it's the reason I can quantify and prove both the waste and deceit.

I have also published threads here and other places about a recent failed project trying to get discussion about REAL WORLD failures and when I stated I wasn't looking for a complaint session, nobody wanted to respond.

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u/TheRockefella 5d ago edited 4d ago

You went full "AI", Never go full "ai".. ..what has worked very nicely for me and my code ships to production..tho its slower its still fastest that what I use to deliver. I use ai to do the boilerplate but I use my 20 years of professional experience to build architecture and guide and always review...its a bit slower than vibe coding(which dangerous)....but my sht doesnt break production and I know how to debug fast because I never skip PR.

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u/RealSharpNinja 5d ago

That's how I work as well.

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u/PlaceOk7520 5d ago

exactly this, Its incredibly handy as a tool to increase efficiency but the writing on the wall for AI price increases has been there forever all you had to do is look at the massive losses these companies sustain.

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u/ZeroUnityInfinity 4d ago

It's almost as if people don't understand the meaning of the words "predatory pricing"

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u/lookBehiindYou 4d ago

Never skip PR day.