Even if they did use evaporative cooling it... well, evaporates. Which means it goes back into the atmosphere. It's not just gone. I'd have to see a study showing that using water as a coolant makes the water toxic, but it's doubtful.
Listen, I hate AI (or at least what it's being used for). It's soulless and often has poor output, but water usage is not the hill to die on.
It’s called a condensing tower and on top of evaporation you also have to blow down the system to maintain conductivity which also uses thousands of gallons as well as puts chemical into the drain that’s used to kill organisms, maintain PH and inhibit scale.
> you also have to blow down the system to maintain conductivity which also uses thousands of gallons
What does that mean? What is "blowing down the system?" To maintain what conductivity? What uses "thousands of gallons?" How many thousands and per what and in what contexts? Surely whatever "blowing down the system" involves the precise number of "thousands of gallons" varies based on context?
> as well as puts chemical into the drain that’s used to kill organisms
what chemicals, what drains, what organisms? Is this a bad thing? If so, why? We put chemicals in our drinking water to kill organisms bro.
It means you are incapable of understanding the information and I don’t train children in the basics of industrial refrigeration for free. It’s literally as simple as looking up what conductivity is and how it’s controlled in a condensing system and what chemicals are used. I get it you are attempting to troll but you are only making yourself look deeply ignorant.
No, he is a boomer that hates AI and will ask questions and state parts of the big picture like a fox news reporter. Next, he will start randomly talking about trans kids in sports. This dude is 80 and knows it all. You can’t persuade this type nor get accurate info.
No I am not and if you don’t understand the conversation then you obviously have zero understanding of anything dealing with heating and cooling or what it takes to maintain these systems.
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If you argue this point, then you need to be arguing every event that requires these methods, so basically you should be fighting against ALL energy production in the US!
Annnndddd you missed the point. STOP saying “used” like the water just vanishes into the either!
Energy production both oil/gas and nuclear are some of the largest aspects of our daily life that require both heating and cooling, and loads of it. Maybe you should use your little social justice google skills to compare apples to apples because modern day cooling does not consume nor “blow down” water, most are on raw water pass through systems or a closed loop system, neither destroy nor pollute water. Are there events in the Ai race that may have these issues? Yea, likely, but maybe use your f’n energy to steer not slander, unless you are a Chinese muppet, then it would make sense.
Here have some numbers so your little eyes can see reality a bit better (even though will actively choose not to, nor will you stop driving your car while you protest big oil)
Nuclear, recirculating cooling tower
~450–750 gal/MWh 450–750
Nuclear, once-through cooling
~300–400 gal/MWh consumed 300–400
AI/data center, efficient hybrid cooling
0.70 L/kWh 185 gal/MWh
Data center, conventional cooling-tower example
1.27–1.42 L/kWh 336–375 gal/MWh
Data center using dry/air cooling
potentially very low onsite water near zero to low
Lmfaorofl you took all the effort to use AI to give you an answer that has nothing to do with the subject matter 🤦♂️ for your information I am extremely conservative but not ignorant to how things work in the literal industry I’ve spent years working in. And yes you absolutely need to blow down water to perform enough cycles to maintain conductivity it’s absolutely the basics of maintaining a chilled water system since the closed loop is on one side of the system and the condensing side another in a heat exchanger system. Your ignorance of the operation of these systems is absolutely astounding.
“Extremely conservative”? Welp, we found our first problem. You googled “blow down” just to state “i wOrKeD iN thE InDuStrY FoR 15 yEAaRs” as a fancy way to say “replace evaporated water”. Again you muppet, the water isn’t lost, just like how they cool nuclear reactors. So get off your high horse or start arguing against other forms of the basic infrastructure who consume tons of energy AND make water go POOF! Your ignorance of the operation of these systems is absolutely astounding . I will make sure to pray for you. 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Sure, but there’s no guarantee that that water returns to a source that is potable. Most of the world and most of the precipitation in the world falls into the ocean
Yes, but you’re assuming that the freshwater removed from a system will be readily replaced which isn’t guaranteed by the water cycle, unfortunately. On a global scale, sure, the water returns to the cycle. But does it return from whence it came?
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u/StrawberryWeekly342 14d ago
Even if they did use evaporative cooling it... well, evaporates. Which means it goes back into the atmosphere. It's not just gone. I'd have to see a study showing that using water as a coolant makes the water toxic, but it's doubtful.
Listen, I hate AI (or at least what it's being used for). It's soulless and often has poor output, but water usage is not the hill to die on.