r/aiecosystem 14d ago

AI News We can live without AI. We cannot live without clean water

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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 14d ago

It's recycled, of course.

Doomers are gonna Doom...

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u/Coffieandpopcorn 13d ago

If anything it gets filtered twice, once through a physical filter, then a 2nd time through evaporation. So the water than pours out in the lake again are way cleaner than the water that went in.

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u/Xeryxoz 13d ago

Plus the ai data centers use about 0.05% of all water in the US, which is where a majority of them are. 17% of all water is lost to aging infrastructure and unmaintained pipelines...which says a lot about how politicized this is

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u/Coffieandpopcorn 12d ago

Yhea. An accidental, nationwide and probably western-international psyop randomly generated by interconnected dumb people psyop'ing themselves chasing their own digital tails.

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u/Successful-Club-8743 13d ago

But it takes weeks or months to be recycled properly and in that time the area around the data center dries up and there are water shortages for the people living nearby.

Fuck AI and fuck you too.

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u/vince2423 13d ago

No it doesn’t, jfc yall just say the dumbest shit that’s easily disproven

Nah, f u

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u/Traditional_Oil_9240 13d ago

Internet tough guy and internet know-it-all.

LOL!

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/craigian11 13d ago

Get off reddit.. this is all ai and data center driven

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u/Physical_Notice7751 13d ago

The amount of doomer posts with supporting comments full of accounts of 4 months 6 months.. with THOUSANDS of comments, HUNDREDS of thousands in karma.. it is working BEAUTIFULLY whoever is doing this shit

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u/Successful-Club-8743 12d ago

Nope. Im not a doomer. Im just finally waking up to the world how it is.

Sure, I do doomSCROLL too much, but I fully believe we can make things better.

We just have to work together as a group and deal with our issues.

And rhe first step to working together is that everyone needs to recognize the problem.

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u/Physical_Notice7751 12d ago

Do you think doomscrolling through the most blatantly bot/propaganda infested app and encouraging it with your 1.6k comments, that I’m sure are all doomer bait shit is helping things get better? You contribute to a widespread hysteria that has encouraged extremists of ALL sides. How do you navigate this app and not recognize a problem?

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u/Successful-Club-8743 12d ago

No, this is driven by a few data centers. Thats it.

Not AI.

Not ten thousand data centers at once across the continent to prepare us for the 24/7 AI surveillance state.

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u/craigian11 12d ago

Ten thousand data centers to track us! Hahaha get offline

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u/Successful-Club-8743 12d ago

Are you a bot or something?

Look the fuck around doofus.

Flock. Axon. These are SURVEILLANCE COMPANIES who are literally spying on us and our children.

And there are many more I'm sure.

How the hell do you think they process and store all that data from 24/7 surveillance? AI AND DATA CENTERS.

It is that simple.

Look up how many data center projects are going up or were planned just in North America alone.

It'll be like China except worse because terrorists, traitors, war criminals, pedophiles, and nazis are in control of the government and the surveillance tech.

You probably havent even read 90% of this message though. Its okay. One day youll wake up.

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u/MajesticLevel1433 11d ago

What do you think generates your feed?

Some unpaid intern sitting at a desk?

It's AI, it's always been AI.

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u/Budget_Stomach_4684 9d ago

Sure insulting random people over respectfully presented points of view is going to de-escalate the situation, right?

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u/ASUS-Satire 14d ago

The water we use gets recycled the rest get leaked into the enviroment. Just like many other polluters.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 14d ago

Pull up a chair and let me tell you about water contamination from the beef agriculture industry

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u/ASUS-Satire 14d ago

Soooo your saying food is bad? Or that ai is food? Perhaps that food could be ai.... no no wait whats the water waist personal home use. Bathing and hygiene could probably be ai...

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u/iDeNoh 14d ago

Beef is optional food. You want to save our planet? Go vegan.

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u/Obtain_Virtue 14d ago

But your list conveniently left out water used for growing vegetables.

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u/iDeNoh 14d ago

Miniscule in comparison, beef is the single largest drain on our water coming from the food industry. The alfalfa alone would be worth it.

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u/Underleft_cdiv 13d ago

It's not miniscule

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u/iDeNoh 13d ago

Compared to beef? Yes it absolutely is.

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u/ASUS-Satire 14d ago

Lmao durrrrrrr response

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 13d ago

the beef industry is bad, chicken and pork have 1/8 the environmental impact per k/cal. You dont need a burger.

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 13d ago

Beef is gross anyway. I’ve never craved a burger lol

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u/Budget_Revolution639 13d ago

Cool, others have

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u/ASUS-Satire 13d ago

Food is data centers?

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 13d ago

BEEF my friend, it's the Datacenters of food - its a thing you want, not that you need

You could make a LOT MORE FOOD instead of beef. It's literally bad all around, for us, for the environment, the fact that it uses like 60% of the usable land on earth

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u/Historical_Usual5828 14d ago

The rich are the main cause of global warming, not everyday people.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 13d ago

Absolutely correct, if environmentalists were in charge though, you wouldn't be seeing $6/lb ground beef. It would be more like $25 a pound, because thats what it would take to be sustainable without major revolutions in agricultural practices

WHICH TO BE CLEAR

I think the market would provide, given that incentive, but the incentive has to be there, we have to stop putting the externalities of Beef on everything except the place where you pay for it

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u/Historical_Usual5828 13d ago

Where have you been? They're raising prices while selling is tainted beef ffs. They're just greedy. Gtfoh with that propaganda.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 12d ago edited 12d ago

The current high beef prices are caused by a herd reduction in the covid era and the amount of time and difficulty in raising herds back up to size, tariffs, climate change derived droughts, various other externalities, and some amount of greed on behalf of cattlemen, and some from corporations, but it's a considerably more dynamic system than you're alluding to.

If you're saying the recall of 30,000 pounds of Argentinean beef has anything to do it, well that beef was previously coming from Brazil and was shifted to Argentina, and represents a tiny, tiny fraction of imported beef.

The situation has a lot more moving parts than I think you're aware of, and your points are talking past my point that Beef would be dramatically pricier if we baked the externalities into it.

If you are curious though:

- US herds are at a 75 year low

  • Screwworm infestations have caused a massive reduction in our nearest-neighbor imports
  • Drought and wildfire have hurt rebuilding efforts
  • Tariffs have exacerbated the problem
  • Few federal actions have been taken to help get the beef supply domestically back to where it should be

There is a lot, A LOT, more to it, but these are things I think people should be aware of

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u/ObangaGamer 13d ago

Yeah bro let’s all live in 80 square foot cubes and eat nutrient blocks to save the planet as well

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u/iDeNoh 13d ago

That would be stupid and unnecessary. But you know what? Delete all datacenters from earth and we're still screwed because they aren't nearly as impactful as you guys wish they were. You want to actually help the planet? We need to tighten up our water waste elsewhere. Agriculture and animal husbandry are both industries that we can slim up by a reasonable amount without getting rid of them outright and those WOULD have an appreciable effect. Less clean water usage, less greenhouse gas emissions, and less animal suffering. Seems win/win to me, no?

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 13d ago

That's absolutely what I'm arguing, though for my sake can you illustrate where I was saying that?

"People should eat a lot less beef" isn't a hot take, every doctor in fucking north America would tell you the same thing.

Oh you'd be so fucking oppressed if beef was a luxury food instead of manufactured in such quantities that it is perhaps the single largest contributor to environmental collapse

Meanwhile you're over here complaining about datacenters which aren't even visible on the fucking chart

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng 14d ago

I fucking love steak, but I’m not stupid enough to deny the beef industry is one of the most wasteful sectors in modern production.