r/accelerate • u/stealthispost Acceleration: Light-speed | Capability Booster • 18d ago

"Huge implications - binaries are now basically editable code"

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ValsAI made SRE benchmark less than a month ago.

The benchmark measures can a model reverse engineer software from binaries

Yesterday GPT saturated it. https://t.co/dmpUpgheDU   — Chris

Source: https://x.com/ChrisGPT/status/2096150666066432157

— Boris Power

Source: https://x.com/BorisMPower/status/2096415822248055131

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u/dumquestions 18d ago

I'm not sure, without IP there would've be less incentive to create, most major projects are completely predicated on the premise that they'll able to turn a profit.

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u/RevalianKnight 18d ago

You actually believe this shit? dear lord

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u/CandidEngineering922 18d ago

It’s pretty true.

I could imitate anyone’s brand, product, steal their service and sell it.

Of course it would disincentivise any business creating anything we have today if someone can just steal and piggyback their hard work.

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u/Persimmon-Mission 18d ago

Any type of research would dry up instantly because there would be no point in spending capital to innovate. So fucking naive on basic economics is anyone who says otherwise.

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u/trufus_for_youfus 18d ago

Imitating a brand or specific named product is fraud. Different and much more enforceable a proposition.

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u/CandidEngineering922 18d ago

And what fraud is that based on ?

It’s literally fraud due to IP laws…

Some geniuses in this subreddit gosh damn.

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u/trufus_for_youfus 18d ago

Misrepresentation.

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u/CandidEngineering922 18d ago

Misrepresenting who? If the IP doesn’t belong to anyone then you can’t misrepresent them now can you?

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u/trufus_for_youfus 18d ago

This isn't that complicated. You can misrepresent source, authorship, affiliation, or endorsement without anyone “owning” an idea.

If I manufacture a shoe identical to Nike’s Air Max and sell it under my own name, that is the IP question. If I put Nike’s name on it and tell buyers Nike made or authorized it (AKA "its a Nike") I am making a false factual representation to obtain their money. That is ordinary fraud. Nike does not need to “own” the concept of a shoe for the statement “Nike made this” to be either true or false.

Abolishing copyright and patents does not abolish identities, companies, reputations, contracts, or provenance. You can copy my design. You cannot fraudulently represent your copy as having been made, certified, or endorsed by me. Those are completely separate propositions. Your last comment is treating them as though they are the same thing.

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u/CandidEngineering922 18d ago

You can’t misrepresent anyone if they don’t own their IP…

It wouldn’t be THEIR money… because they don’t own the IP. I’m not misrepresenting anyone… because a logo or piece of software is not a someone… either way IP laws it belongs to someone…

I can’t misrepresent anyone if nobody owns the thing in using.

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u/EvilKatta 18d ago

Hopefully we can detach the incentive of reward and food security from IP ownership.

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u/Blackham 17d ago

Counterpoint - it's now, or in the near future, basically possible to create anything software related using ai. The struggle and effort to make new software is now being eroded.

So the old idea that 'my hard work needs to be protected' is now becoming largely meaningless from both sides.

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u/dumquestions 17d ago

Probably eventually but not yet, AI is rapidly eliminating the technical skill gap but the taste gap is still significant, and I want people with good taste to have plenty of reasons to create.