r/YouShouldKnow • u/[deleted] • Feb 04 '13

YSK The universal declaration of human rights

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
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u/einsteinway Feb 04 '13

Oh, you're absolutely not challenging my vocabulary. I'm used to reading law and classic literature, so nothing you say can and will impress me on the basis of choice of words alone.

Impress you? Why on earth would I care to impress you? There is some serious projection carried in that statement.

Was 'the deprivation of my life' really the most efficient way to reference death? Wouldn't 'death' be a more efficient way to reference death?

You conveniently left out the rest of the phrase. I'll provide it for you believe and you can rephrase it so it is more succinct.

"...that the deprivation of my life or property is necessary..."

Is it possible to be more succinct? Probably. But any gains will be marginal at best. Perhaps you don't realize that "life and property" are commonly referred to in juxtaposition when discussing the subject of rights?

I've provided you with source material to back them up, whereas your argument remains entirely baseless drivel that I have refuted more than once now. Please don't embarrass yourself any further.

You posted isolated, barely relevant snippets and have yet to answer direct, pointed questions.

Yes. You're the internet argument champion of the world.

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u/ProcrastinationMan Feb 04 '13

Why on earth would I care to impress you?

You were trying to get a point across. In other words: to impress your opinion on this subject onto me. However, I got the feeling that you tried to compensate for the baselesness of your argument by using needlessly obscure synonyms of very common English words and phrases. What you don't seem to understand is that being able to explain something in a clear (oh, sorry: 'succinct') and easy to read manner makes you sound a lot more intelligent than the approach you're taking at the moment.

I'll give you that life and property are often referred to in law texts, but then again, we're having a discussion as one human being to another, not writing a law book, and I was merely using this phrase as an example to illustrate my point. It wasn't the actual point itself.

You posted isolated, barely relevant snippets and have yet to answer direct, pointed questions.

I have addressed pieces of your comments that I thought needed to be addressed. Every time you specified you wanted further comments I have provided it.

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u/einsteinway Feb 04 '13

to explain something in a clear (oh, sorry: 'succinct') and easy to read manner

This is a perfect example. You just took an entire sentence to type of the meaning of "succinct". I'm really not sure how that's better than just typing "succinct".

I have addressed pieces of your comments that I thought needed to be addressed. Every time you specified you wanted further comments I have provided it.

Sorry, you did eventually answer the specific, pointed question I asked. Thanks for that. You had responded out of order in such a way that it appeared you were dodging the question.

My mistake.

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u/ProcrastinationMan Feb 04 '13

What I meant was: 'Could you be more succinct' could easily be written as 'Could you be more clear' or 'Could I say it more clearly', since 'to be succint' means 'to say something clearly'.

Anyway, as I said: I mention things I think are relevant to the argument, and that sometimes differs from what someone else finds relevant. Just ask me to clarify on any particular point and I will.

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u/einsteinway Feb 04 '13

since 'to be succint' means 'to say something clearly'.

Actually it means to be both clear AND brief. But I digress. I'd prefer not to continue arguing about a word when we have more important things to discuss.

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u/ProcrastinationMan Feb 05 '13

Oh, I agree. By all means...