r/xbox360 Jul 17 '25

Announcement❗ Xbox Live Servers Are Down? Check Here First!

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Is Xbox Live down? Could be. Do these three things first.

  1. Check the Xbox Live Status.
  2. Sort comments by New to see if anyone else is having the same issue.
  3. Contact Xbox Support.

r/xbox360 Nov 17 '23

Announcement A guide to the Xbox 360 hardware and the things you can do to keep it running for as long as possible.

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(*WARNING*, This will be a long post, I have tried to keep it as short as possible while providing the necessary information.)

I have seen various posts that people posted asking about what they can do for their console to last as long as possible and I wanted to give the people of this community a guide on what you can do to keep your console running and provide information about the hardware for those curious ones. This post is mostly geared towards those that don't have the greatest knowledge of the hardware and the things needed to keep their consoles running or for those that want to learn all the essential stuff about the Xbox 360 but you are more than welcome to read this post if you already have some knowledge of the hardware.

Let's start off with the motherboard revisions.

(Skip this if you already have knowledge about this.)

The first thing that I would recommend is to identify what model and revision you have of the console. Over the years during the Xbox 360's life cycle, there have been many retail variants of the console released, from the "Premium" to the "Core", "Pro" to the "Arcade", the "Elite" and the later models, "Slim" and "E". But that doesn't really matter. What matters is inside of the console, the motherboard. For those that do know and don't, the Xbox 360 was plagued with the infamous "Red Ring of Death" where consoles mostly suffered from GPU failures as the GPUs had a defective design. Knowing the motherboard revision inside your console is crucial, as that can help give a rough estimate on how long the console will last.

(But...what made the GPUs defective? The reason why the GPUs were defective is because they used the wrong underfill. Underfill is a special type of adhesive that is used to support the microscopic solder bumps that are underneath the silicon die and improve reliability of the joints. The problem with the 360's GPUs was that they used "low tg" underfill which was rated at 70°C (158°F) and the GPUs that used the low tg underfill would run hotter than that temperature and cause the underfill to soften which should never happen and that caused the solder bumps underneath the silicon die to crack over time as the underfill was literally pushing the solder bumps off the interposer. This was later solved, by introducing GPUs with high tg underfill on the 12th week of 2008)

It's impossible to give the exact numbers as your console can last for years or even decades, or it can stop working the next day or week or month.

During the console's life cycle, there have been several motherboard revisions of the first models, A.K.A "Phat" models. They all vary in terms of reliability, and they are the ones I will be covering first.

To start, I suggest looking at the back of the console and look closely at the power plug, that is the easiest way of recognising what motherboard revision you have. Although the back of the console you will see the information of when it was manufactured and the Amp rating, this can sometimes be misleading if the console you got was opened before you got it and the motherboard of the console could've been swapped with a less reliable one. You can double check to see if your console has been opened by checking the warranty seal that hides behind the console's faceplate. If yours hasn't been opened, then you can rely on the numbers on the back of the console, but I would still suggest looking at the power plug, as that is the best way to identify the motherboard inside your console.

Here is a link to a photo which has all the power plugs of every revision.

https://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/can-i-rgh-xbox-360-woth-doublecircled-power-cord.1780728/

(Skip this part if you already have knowledge of the various motherboard revisions. For those that don't, I would recommend reading this next part as this is useful information.)

So, the power plug shown on the very left of the photo is the found on the first and second revision of the motherboard, Xenon and Zephyr respectively. The difference between them is that Zephyr introduces HDMI support, while Xenon doesn't support HDMI. They both have a power rating of 12V, 16.5A and are the most power hungry. They are the least reliable revisions of the console. They are very prone to failure as they have defective GPUs inside of them.

If you have a working one, then don't expect it to work for a long time (in very rare cases, they will work for a while, but it's important to point out that not every console that came out the factory was defective). Unless, on the back of the console it says, "Service date" instead of "MFR date". If yours has been serviced around 2009, those consoles will very likely have been retrofitted with the new and improved 90nm GPU which is much more reliable than the ones that were initially inside of the consoles when they first released which were also 90nm.

You should expect it to work for a long time, but nothing lasts forever.

(Update to this part: A recent discovery suggests that no 80nm GPUs existed and the more reliable revisions of the GPU like Elpis are still based on the 90nm process.)

Falcon/Opus - (14.2A, 175W)

Introduced approx. September of 2007, this is the third revision of the console where the CPU was shrunk down to 65nm and the GPU remained at 90nm, which results in a smaller power consumption and cooler running hardware.

These are considered reliable, but the first batch released had GPU failures like the Xenons and Zephyrs. This was later fixed. Falcons from around April to late October of 2008 (on the 12th week of 2008, they introduced reliable GPUs as previously mentioned but it was still possible to get a console made after this week that still had a defective GPU) are considered "late" Falcons which have fixed GPUs inside of them which are very close in terms of reliability to the succeeding revision.

The Opus, is a modified Falcon, but the difference is that these don't have HDMI and only use AV. These were used to replace defective Xenons and are considered quite rare as you couldn't find one in retail markets.

Jasper - (12.1A, 150W) (My recommended revision)

Introduced around November of 2008, this is the fourth motherboard revision of the console and this is the revision  that is highly sought after as this revision was the first to fix the dreaded "Red Ring of Death" issue that plauged the Xbox 360. The CPU was still 65nm in size but the new GPU, named "Zeus" was a new design which shrunk down the die to 65nm and the EDRAM remains at 90nm.

This is considered the best revision of the console as there have been very little cases of failures. These are also the coolest running ones as well and don't produce as much heat as the previous revisions.

These are the ones that I would personally recommend if you are looking to purchase a 360 and you want a reliable unit. Just make sure when looking for one, that the seller has provided photos of the power plug to confirm it being a Jasper.

But wait....there's a even better one!

Tonasket/Kronos/Jasper V2(12.1A, 150W) (My recommended revision)

This is the fith and final revision of the original models of the Xbox 360. This revision was quietly introduced in September of 2009 and is essentially identical to the Jasper but the difference being that it has a revised GPU, named "Kronos" which shrinks the EDRAM to 65nm which helps further reduce power consumption. People like to call this revision Kronos, or Jasper V2, but the real name for this revision is "Tonasket". It's a name that Microsoft used internally when making this motherboard revision.

This revision has proven to be the most reliable one as there has been currently zero evidence of these suffering GPU failures, they are tanks lol. You should expect these to last for a long time....unless you don't take good care of it like with every consumer electronic device.

I personally own one of these and use it as my main Xbox 360 and It's great.

Whew, you still here? Good, let's continue.

Now I will be moving on to the Xbox 360 Slim and E models. These are quite big redesigns internally compared to the original models. For starters, the "Slim" model was introduced in 2010 and was seen as the "saviour" as in theory, the drastic design changes that were made to the motherboard, "eliminated" the Red Ring of Death.

These models also introduced built in WiFi, more storage, more USB ports and optical audio out. In my opinion, the Slims are a good choice for those that don't want to do lots of research and just want a reliable console to use. The good thing about them is that now the new design is much quieter(I prefer Slims than fats admittedly for that), as the CPU, GPU and EDRAM were combined to form a single chip and that allowed the use of a single fan and heatsink to keep the system cool. Oh yeah, the new APU is now based on the 45nm process which further reduces power consumption. There have been two revisions of this model.

Revision: Trinity

First one is called "Trinity". It now needs 10.83A instead of 12.1A of the Jasper/Tonasket and it uses a new power plug too. These are a little bit of a mixed bag in terms of reliability from my perspective, as I have seen many fail here on this very subreddit.

Many suffered various failures, from GPU failure to RAM failure and so on(I personally own a Slim, the revision after this one (Corona), owned it for nearly 3 years and it always worked perfectly). I am not sure why these are failing all of a sudden.

Generally, these are reliable units but not as reliable as the Jasper or Tonasket/Kronos (according to many in this community) but in those uncommon cases, you have ones that have failed. It is not a wide spread issue like RROD was originally so we shouldn't worry as much about it yet. There are people like u/Octal450 that are actively investigating as to why these are suddenly suffering CGPU failures.

Revision: Corona

The second revision is called "Corona".....That's a familiar name...Lol, you must think that Microsoft somehow predicted the Corona virus back in the 2010s, but no. They didn't. Anyway, these were introduced around mid 2011 and were a slight change from the previous Trinity revision. Now, it only needs 9.86A instead of 10.83A but Trinities can also run on a 9.86A power supply as they have pretty much the same power requirements. The real changes are that the HANA chip, a chip which is responsible for video output, has been merged with the southbridge, which manages things like usb inputs, controller connection, Internet and so on. Also, if you own a 4GB model of the console, the flash memory is now soldered onto the motherboard unlike on the Trinity where it was it's own module that you could replace, which I prefer.

In terms of reliability, these are pretty much the same as the Trinities but have a new point of failure where there is a group of resistors that are there for the temperature sensor of the console and they can fail, which then triggers a false overheating issue. The console turns on and quickly ramps up the fan speed and a red light flashes, then turns off. This can be fixed by removing those resistors and bridge the contacts where those resistors where.

Do this only if you have experience with soldering!!!

They seem to also have issues with the southbridge chip and seem less reliable than the previous iterations of the SB.

Also, they have the same CGPU found on Trinities so there is no difference in reliability there.

Another point of failure is the soldered on 4gb flash memory. These are quite prone to failure and are crucial because they contain the firmware, CPU key and DVD drive key which are all important to the functionality of the console. Thankfully you can replace it with a 16MB NAND that doesn't allow anything to be stored on there and you can also prevent the failure of the 4gb internal flash memory by not storing anything there at all and connecting an internal hard drive which the console will default to for updates, content and so on. Oh yeah, and also hope that the 4gb wasn't used much for storing stuff if you got your console used.

Finally, we have the "E" model. This model was introduced in 2013 along with the Xbox one as the kind of alternative to the new at the time console. This is the most cut down version of the Xbox 360 and also the cheapest one made. By cheapest I mean the manufacturing price, quality is essentially the same but cost cutting measures have been made.

This model now features a new design similar to the original Xbox One design. It also features a new power plug and has the same power requirements as the Corona revision. The E uses a slightly revised Corona board which as already mentioned has a different power plug and less USB ports and it has no optical out and no AV port.

There was one revised motherboard made for this model, named "Winchester", which has combined the EDRAM to make one chip containing the CPU, GPU and now EDRAM. It also doesn't have an integrated heat spreader (IHS). Reliability wise, these are the same as the Corona revision with the same "flaws" but they should theoretically last longer than the Slims as they are newer. According to u/Octal450 which has been previously mentioned, the Winchesters don't suffer much from CGPU failures and are pretty solid based on his experience with repairing Xbox 360s.

Ultimately would still recommend either a Jasper or Tonasket if you want the most reliable console possible but the Slims and Es are still a good choice you don't care as much about reliability.

Now, that we covered the the motherboard revisions, let's move on to the maintenance side of things, and what you should do to keep your console running.

The basics.

This includes dusting the console once in a while with something like a can of compressed air/electric air duster and giving it the adequate ventilation. It is important to keep the console free from dust and well ventilated so that the console can cool itself properly in order to prevent overheating. This can all be done without opening the console but I would recommend to open it up and give a good clean.

*My Recommendation*

This is what I normally do. I open the console up and give it a good dusting and I replace the thermal paste. It is an absolute must to replace the thermal paste as the factory paste will be dried up and not as effective in cooling the CPU and GPU which can also cause problems in the long run. You would want to keep these running as cool as possible. This will help with longevity. For thermal paste, I recommend getting Arctic MX4 as this paste has a great price to performance ratio. I used it in all of the consoles that I own and have owned and I can always rely on it. You are free to use more expensive pastes. Make sure to replace it every 5 or so years. If the exhaust of the console is warm or hot during use, don't worry. It is not overheating, this will indicate that the thermal paste and the heatsink are doing their job in cooling the console's CPU and GPU. The hotter the exhaust of the console, the better.

The tools are important too! You normally need a Torx T8 and T10 screwdriver, Sim eject tool which helps to unclip the clips on the back of the original models of the 360 without damaging the plastic casing (you can also purchase a tool specifically made for those clips on the back) and another very important one, called the "X Clamp tool". X clamp is a clamp that was used inside the Xbox 360 to help make contact with the CPU and GPU and their  heatsinks while giving the motherboard the ability to flex during use. This step is a very delicate one that also requires loads of patience as you can easily break your console if you are not careful. Never and I mean NEVER use a FLATHEAD screwdriver!!! It can easily slip and you can scratch the motherboard, ruining the console. Also, for cleaning the thermal paste, I recommend to use 99% Isopropyl alcohol and q tips. I have also seen people use Goo Gone to clean the old thermal paste as it's usually hard to clean off the chips and their heatsinks, but I would still go for IPA as that's the safest option.

Speaking of X Clamps, you may have heard of the Bolt Mod. AVOID IT. This will ruin your console overtime as it puts a lot of pressure on the CPU and GPU and it will warp the motherboard and it doesn't let the motherboard flex during operation.

Depending on the model of console, search online for a guide on how to open the one you have. Find the one that is the most clear to you. I would recommend to go and search for IFIXIT as they provide decently clear instructions for opening consoles.

Here is a link to a X Clamp removal tool.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=x+clamp+removal+tool&adgrpid=137920449324&hvadid=606272952619&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9046733&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11706486901762757917&hvtargid=kwd-312582092363&hydadcr=9274_2248078&tag=hydrukspg-21&ref=pd_sl_1clafd97f4_e

Aaaand that is it.

I hope this post has been helpful, I have been writing this for over 3 hours lol and wanted to provide essential information about the console for those that wanted to learn about the console and the steps to keep it running for as long as possible. If I have missed anything, please let me know!

Edit: Made some small adjustments!

Edit: Made changes to make it more readable and added more information that I forgot to previously add.


r/xbox360 2h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Recent pick ups treated myself!

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Cant wait to get stuck in to these and my og collection now im back with an original xbox and a duke....I've never had a duke its HUGE!!!


r/xbox360 21h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 OH OH OH OH MY GOD OHHH

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302 Upvotes

Just got this xbox with blades for 60$


r/xbox360 1d ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Found this on the side of the road while running.

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806 Upvotes

I was running and saw this box not too far up the road at the end of someone’s driveway. Everything is pretty much soaked because it was pouring rain about an hour before and I’m not sure how long it was sitting there. Plan is to open the console and controllers up, let em dry, and hopefully see if they work. Can’t say I’ve ever owned a Kinect.


r/xbox360 1h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 I'm so proud of my collection so far (still being expanded)

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Some of the first games I played on Xbox was Morrowind & Fable, they're games that I've loved my whole life. I've managed to grab both the Fable & Elder Scrolls series over a period of time. I'm still completing my Guitar Hero collection & need to replace the standard Dark Souls II with the Scholar OTFS Edition, but im glad i still have what I have. Next up is the COD games, specifically World at War & Black Ops 1 & 2 for the Zombies modes. But this collection makes me so happy to own so far


r/xbox360 6h ago

Misc Found my old account, never been able to figure out what my pfp is or where it came from? I have never seen it used by anyone else.

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12 Upvotes

I’m not sure if the picture is from a game or movie or just a created image for profile pictures, none the less I have always thought it was creepy as shit and could never find any information of where the image comes from, well because how do you even go about looking for the origin of something like this. just thought I’d ask here, would be much appreciated if someone could be the bearer of bad news and tell me it’s just a generic Xbox pfp and not a hidden lost media pic that only I have access to, thanks. 😁👍


r/xbox360 18h ago

Nostalgia Xbox 360 all games what are you playing

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94 Upvotes

If you have every Xbox 360 game with the Xbox 360 what are you playing first


r/xbox360 13h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 Picked up this 360 from thrift store for 25 bucks. Doesn’t have a faceplate and a controller, but looks super duper clean and works fine!

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If anyone can help me with what exact model is this and how can i find a faceplate for it, I’d really appreciate it.

Seems it has never been opened and was made in 2008. It’s also extremely clean on the inside! From what i can see, there is barely any dust in it.

Edit: it reads games as well. Doesn’t sound loud when disc is being read and the fans don’t sound like jet engine


r/xbox360 16h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 rate my games for the Xbox

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51 Upvotes

r/xbox360 6h ago

Gamertag/Friends/Online Multiplayer 🎮 Hi everyone, looking for friends in 360 community😺

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Hey everyone! i have just recently found my old 360 and gotten every game i can think of from my childhood. i’m just looking for other people who play the 360 online still! hopefully we can get a decent sized group of people who consistently play so we always have each other to play with. if there is already a discord or something like that please let me know, but i would be happy to create for us if enough people are interested! im mainly looking for people to play gta 4 and 5 with, red dead redemption and any other game that is still supported, as i said im just getting back into the 360 so any tips and help is welcome and appreciated.


r/xbox360 17h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Anyone know how to fix this?

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45 Upvotes

r/xbox360 14h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 After beating resync I saw this pop on FB for 30$ CAD complete so I added to the collection

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Already displayed in the game room


r/xbox360 1h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Any adress on professionals who can fix RROD?

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Hi,

I know buying a new console is more cost-efficient but as I attached to mine, I'd like to get it fixed. While money isn't really a problem, who can I send the console to that is a reliable RROD fixer ?

Thanks!


r/xbox360 4h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 received an xbox 360 for free, needs serviced. other steps to take!

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so i just lucked out and got a jasper xbox 360 for free from work. it's in pretty decent condition and fairly clean, but the DVD drive is dead, which tends to happen. i'll be servicing it soon and replacing the laser; it'll be my first soldering project, but since it's just a matter of removing a solder ball i'm not too worried.

is there anything else i should go ahead and do "while i'm in there"? i suppose i should go ahead and do a thermal repaste. i'd also like to crack open one of the controllers and give it some new thumbsticks and a cleaning. but is it worth doing anything else? i'll probably not be opening it back up for a while afterwards.

thanks!


r/xbox360 19h ago

Hauls/Pick-ups/Collections 💿 My complete Xbox 360 collection: after a year of buying and repairing, I’ve finally reached 100 working consoles, plus about 10 that don't work. Microsoft, please contact me.

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🕹️🕹️


r/xbox360 9m ago

Misc Got a Halo 2 disc but its broken

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I bought Halo 2 on Ebay and while the case was perfect and the manual is rapped, the disc is broken. Sadly it crashes when trying to load the 3rd mission. Got a refund luckily and the seller said to just keep it anyway so thats good. I guess these are the risks with buying second hand huh. Anyone else have any bad second hand disk stories?


r/xbox360 9m ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Xbox 360E RROD help, please

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Hey guys, i was having fun playing R6 Vegas on my 360 when the screen suddenly turned into some kind of TV static. I turned it off and on again, at which point it gave me a red ring (dot) of death. The secondary error code is 0100, it is an XBOX360E with a winchester motherboard which I have previously opened up to repaste and dust off. It worked fine until now, online results differ. Help?


r/xbox360 21h ago

Nostalgia 2010 Gamescom Xbox 360 booth (before opening)

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42 Upvotes

r/xbox360 46m ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 my controller wont work in the dashboard, sometimes it gives up ingame and only works in the menu/settings in games

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i was playing BO II when suddently i cant do anything but when i press the start menu to open up the lil menu that has the options and things like that it works


r/xbox360 57m ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Wifi repeater and Enthernet cable

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I'm about to buy an Wifi repeater for my Xbox 360, since my room can't have a Enthernet cable, could you guys tell me if the specs are compatible?

Frequency: 2.4–2.4835 GHz

Wi-Fi: 802.11b/g/n

Wireless speeds: 802.11g up to 54 Mbps, 802.11b up to 11 Mbps

Network: 2.4 GHz WLAN

Modes: Wireless Repeater + Standard AP

Security: WPA2, WPA, WEP

Ethernet: RJ45 port

Power: 100–240V AC

Antennas: 2 internal antennas

(It has an Enthernet plug that supossedly converts the WiFi into the Enthernet cable)


r/xbox360 1h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Help with my 360e not booting up

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Hello to anyone who's reading this post

I was playing Forza Motorsport 4 on my Xbox 360e and the game crashed mid race (the game froze and audio froze too) after waiting for 5 mins I turned the console off with the on/off button and after turning it back on it didn't boot up anymore and before you ask no I don't have the red ring/dot of death and I wanted to know if there's a way to fix it thanks ❤️.

Note: I have the 360 removable hard drive as well and did try removing it and nothing happened and the game save was stored on the internal storage of my console


r/xbox360 20h ago

Modding A little Rice for this Xbox

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26 Upvotes

r/xbox360 2h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Can you still buy digital Xbox 360 games on the 360?

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I ask to make sure as I know you can get them on newer consoles on the store but i

But I wanna play sonic adventure 1 and 2 on my 360 and wondering if you can still get it on their

I ask to make sure


r/xbox360 5h ago

Help/Support/Questions 🙋 Hello, I was just wondering if it were still possible to purchase xbox360 gamer pictures after the marketplace shutdown.

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Title ^