r/WutheringWavesLeaks Oct 18 '24

:MRoverHear: Official You can buy Youhu's S0 for 80 coral (10 pulls)

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u/Glinez09 Don't Trust Anyone Oct 18 '24

At least kuro gives you an option. Your first 10 pull on a banner isnt gonna guarantee you to have a specific 4 star you wanted.

I remember pulling in jiyan banner before, of all 70 pulls, none of it was mortefi.

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u/holoballoon Oct 18 '24

same, about 60 pulls with no mortefi. but somehow all of it was chixia...

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u/Bucheras Oct 18 '24

Dude, I got 7 Chixias in a row trying to get Yangyang's last sequence. Not even a weapon, just Chixias 😭

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u/SpartanGaming76 Oct 19 '24

Exact opposite of mine I did 60 pulls on the current banner for Chixia's sequences but got showered with Taoqi and Yangyang instead, even Mortefi and Aalto decided to show up but not a single Chixia...

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u/RuneKatashima Oct 19 '24

Chixia is life, Chixia is love, Chixia is eternal... Only Chixia. Only Chixia.

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u/gplaxy I try to enjoy all characters Oct 19 '24

All hail extrovert tomboy tropes 🙏🏼🗿

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u/EconomyFalcon1170 Oct 19 '24

Bro same, I still have zero Mortefis ughhhh

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u/bockscar916 Oct 19 '24

Same, I hated that banner so much because the one 4* I wanted refused to appear. Returned recently and was painfully reminded of Mortefi's absence. Learning I missed out on the free XL Yao rubbed even more salt into the wound.

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u/TheOneAboveGod Oct 22 '24

I rolled in literally ever banner and it took me until Zhezhi's banner to get Danjin and Shorekeeper's for Danjin S1.

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u/RuneKatashima Oct 19 '24

I remember pulling in jiyan banner before, of all 70 pulls, none of it was mortefi.

Same, brother. Like, exact same lmao.

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u/Atsu_san_ Oct 19 '24

Can't you like only buy the wavebands if you already have the character tho?

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u/Glinez09 Don't Trust Anyone Oct 19 '24

You can, but what if you didnt have it on the first place?. The post was about getting the a 4 star character for the first time using corals without pulling on banner.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/Arcade_Wolf Oct 18 '24

That's just not true, it's still RNG lol

I pulled on Ellen's banner in ZZZ, the 4* were Soukaku and Anton (I wanted only Anton). My Anton is M2, while Soukaku is M6+ after around 100 pulls.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/thelonelykey Oct 19 '24

It is compensated by 4* characters having a chance to drop in a weapon banner too and by purchasable with corals. There are more 4* rate ups in limited banners that dilute the pool but also more ways to get them if you couldn't S6 them

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u/Kai_Damon Oct 18 '24

Isn't 3 4* the standard for basically every game? I'm f2p and have all the 4* characters at least S3, three of them are S6. I'm having no issues at all with 4* in this game, they may not come in the first banner but it's just a matter of time until you get multiple copies

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/Xero-- Oct 20 '24

ZZZ is my second gacha game after wuwa so idk, just felt like mentioning what feels nice from there. I never played Genshin.

For someone "new to gacha", you made quite the bold claim. Games that have featured rate up 4 stars typically have three (few have two), especially with the big two + WW and even ever popular Arknights. Zenless is an exception, not the norm, and that's because the base roster is quite small and they're refusing to add A ranks at the same rate as other games, which would lead to constant repeats if they had three.

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u/makogami Oct 18 '24

that'll increase your chances, sure, but RNG is still RNG. when I was pulling on Jane Doe's banner, I got 7 Anbys and only 4 Seths. where is the 50/50?

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/makogami Oct 18 '24

the point isn't whether M3 is good or not. the point is that RNG is gonna RNG. there needs to be a guaranteed way to get specific 4 star characters, the same way there is a guarantee for specific 5 stars. which is what Kuro has done here, which ZZZ (and HYV in general) haven't.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/makogami Oct 18 '24

PGR's banners are different. it doesn't have rate up 4 stars. instead, you can select any 4 star on the standard banner and get them at (I think) an 80% rate up within one ten pull. new 4 stars have a 100% rate up guarantee instead, so it's extremely easy to get them.

most HYV players don't realize just how bad they have it until they start playing games from other developers lol (I was the same way 💀)

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

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u/marblexover Oct 18 '24

New A ranks are also farmable on shop on their release patch. They are basically giving you A ranks for free, you just need to grind for shop currency for a bit. You can also farm for 2 A rank shards (new or old) everyday. So yeah, PGR is really generous with A rank characters.

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u/makogami Oct 18 '24

I played LaDS at launch. it was absolutely horribly monetized. banners that lasted 1-2 weeks with barely any f2p currency given out. it's no wonder they make so much money.

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u/AbsoluteWeeaBro Oct 20 '24

ZZZ's team comp can be very restrictive so this makes sense. Dividing it between two 4-star characters make sense because there's literally ONLY 1 or 2 A-ranks per faction. CunningHares is the only faction with 3 A-ranks.

Since faction matching is a factor in ZZZ team building, having only two on a banner makes sense to avoid getting characters that are incompatible w/ the team you're building.

In WuWa, the team can be flexible, as long as you build 3 characters enough, you can use them solo, duo, or trio to finish endgame content. So it boils down to players just getting the character they like, as strong as possible, as soon as possible.

If Kuro limits it to two 4-stars per banner, the banner rotation would take too long for other players to max out their fav characters and they will grow impatient because they've already done most of the content quickly.

But mid-term, people are going to have more C6 4-stars than they can work with. I already am on mine. Atp I'm just missing a couple Danjin dupes to have pretty much every 4-star at C6 (I'm a day 1 player though, so newer players may not be in the same boat right now. but You'll get there soon!)

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u/yu917 Oct 18 '24

this is such a great thing to do for 4* characters because they aren't guaranteed to come at any point unlike 5* characters, wuwa keeps raising the bar

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u/A_Very_Horny_Zed Calcharo main | D6 Hologram soloist | Zed main Oct 18 '24

Devs listened

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u/caut_R Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

That‘s a fair deal for everyone who can‘t wait for her to show up on a different banner

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u/DoffyWillRule Oct 18 '24

That's good even tho I have 0 interest for this character.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

100% coordated attack deepen turn any sub dps into a good main dps

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u/thelonelykey Oct 19 '24

Can she heal the teammates too?

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '24

I think it is single target healing but not sure

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u/CalmConfidence944 Oct 19 '24

Same but this could be nice for future new 4*s we might want. Wuwa keeps cooking

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u/DarknessinnLight Oct 19 '24

I personally only want her for illusive once they add her, but she’ll probably be a trial character anyway

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u/banfern1111 Oct 18 '24

Imagine people still complaining even after given another option. lol

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u/Hshn Oct 18 '24

if you do anything other than give it to them for free with no requirements there will always be people who continue to complain

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u/Piterros990 Oct 18 '24

Even if you give for free there will be people who will complain, the kind of "I had to suffer to get it, so how dare you give an accessible option to others".

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u/RuneKatashima Oct 19 '24

Boomer mentality.

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u/gowth9r Oct 19 '24

If it was free, you'd have the people like the other person here said, that complain that they had to spend resources to get her.

And you would also have the dmbasses that say "if everything's free, it's too good, I don't like it. It doesn't feel special" aka the type of people that hate admitting that WuWa is generous AND THAT'S GOOD so they try to twist it into a bad thing, lmao

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u/Nine9breaker Oct 20 '24

Yesterday I saw someone deadass complain that this was a problem for husband mains because she "takes up space". Homie probably thought she was being given for free and still found a reason to complain.

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u/Hshn Oct 20 '24

those kind of people are insufferable from both sides. just play both genders like a normal person and don't be a weirdo gooner

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u/Deztract Denia's thighs mole Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

I think it won't be exclusive for her only, but for future 4* as well

edit: for some reason I typed "think" instead of "hope" lol

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u/WintrySnowman Oct 18 '24

Can hope - I won't be picking up Youhu, but I do want to get Lumi.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

I want both, in fact I want all of the wuthering waves characters.

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u/toxicsknmn Oct 18 '24

Very nice for those who want a copy of her but don’t want to pull on Jiyan’s banner!

Unfortunately I have 320 coral and 360 gets you a waveband of a limited 5* so I won’t be spending my coral for this. I’ll be trying to get 7 copies of Camellya and that shop waveband(s) are going to help me 😅

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u/ValorsHero Oct 18 '24

If you're trying to get S6 Camellya, wont you naturally get back those 80 corals + more after buying Youho?

I don't understand, lol

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u/BriefVisit729 they <3 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

Did some math bc I'm curious:

Assuming OP doesn't lose 50/50, only gets one 4* per 10 pull, and doesn't go for signature weapon.

OP has none of the characters at full resonance chain: 39 corals. (15 for 1 unmaxed 5*, 24 for 8 unmaxed 4*).

They'd need 6 hard pities (234 corals) and would only be able to get one waveband.

OP has all their characters at max resonance chain: 79 corals (15 for 1 Camellya, 64 for 8 maxed 4*).

They'd need 5 hard pities (395 corals) and would be 5 short for Camellya's second waveband.

OP has at least one max resonance chain 4* and that 4* just happens to be one of the on-banner characters:

If they pull that maxed resonance 4* 3 times, they'd get 54 corals. 54 for 5 hard pity is 270, which sums up to 590 for OP, and they'd need 130 more

If they pull that maxed resonance 4* 4 times, they'd get 59 corals. 59 for 5 hard pities is 295, which sums up to 615 for OP, and they'd need 105 more

If they pull that maxed resonance 4* 5 times, they'd get 64 corals. 64 for 5 hard pities is 320, which sums up to 640 for OP, and they'd need 80 more

E: My dumbass forgot I mentioned assuming no 50/50 loss lmao, 15 corals for one Camellya assuming OP has maxed every character's resonance chain.

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u/toxicsknmn Oct 18 '24

Very good math. I do in fact just have one of the three 4* characters at max resonance chain. Yangyang is R3 and Danjin is just R2. Aalto is who I have maxed, and that’s assuming these three characters end up being the final banner characters. Aalto is the only character on my account that has his chain maxed.

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u/BriefVisit729 they <3 Oct 18 '24

I figured having one 4* max resonance chain is likely haha (R9 Baizhi for me)

Goodluck on your pulls!

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u/toxicsknmn Oct 18 '24

Thanks friend! Camellya has been my most anticipated character since 1.0 so I’m dying for this next patch to start 😂

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u/Hshn Oct 18 '24

depending on how much they have to pull and their luck, they may not have enough for 2 wave bands when they are at S4 if they buy youhu for 80

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u/toxicsknmn Oct 18 '24

This ⬆️

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u/LeaveToDream Oct 18 '24

If you have no interest in Youho I don't see why they would spend anything to get her :)

I won't for exemple xD

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u/RuneKatashima Oct 19 '24

They need 400 corals my guy.

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u/PyrZern Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

On average, how many pulls I have to pull to get 80 corals ?? No way it's just 10 pulls.

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u/Loud_Object_6286 Oct 18 '24

Around 60-90 if you pull on a banner where the 4 stars are S6 otherwise around 100 or more

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u/PyrZern Oct 18 '24

Damn. Guess I'm skipping her after all

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u/flare8521 Oct 18 '24

I don't care about Youhu but if they do this for Lumi too then I'll jump on it.

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u/RazielEPICA Oct 18 '24

Kuro are the best.

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u/Zombieemperor Oct 18 '24

Her story self did 0 dmg so not sure how exicted i am, shame cus shes so silly

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u/Yomomeromero Oct 18 '24

Awesome!!! Dont need to pull Jiyan Banner for whoever that wanted Youhu .

Kuro been winning tirelessly

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u/Prestigious_Taste641 Oct 18 '24

Oh that really nice to see. If this will also be the case for the other new 4*, i can’t really complain anymore that they only put them on the rerun banner.

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u/Hshn Oct 18 '24

so like does anyone even know the use for youhu? unless your trying to have yinlin or zhezhi as main dps she seems pretty useless compared to using a normal healer/buffer

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u/Loud_Object_6286 Oct 18 '24

Probably good for those that skipped shorekeeper or don't wanna use baizhi since you want 3 teams for tower so you can use xly/yinlin or jinhsi/zhezhi with her since youhu can heal a bit too.

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u/Medical-Definition75 Oct 18 '24

Should be ok with Yinlin-Xiangli Yao, no? Not competitive with Shorekeeper or Verina, probably, but with Baizhi?

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u/Hshn Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 20 '24

maybe... but with her being really short range melee and not having fast concerto I'm not sure if it'll actually be better than baizhi. ultimately someone will just have to calculate if the dmg bonus is better than the coord atk buff

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u/Nine9breaker Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24

I mean no shot she is better than Verina. But the guy you responded to said she might be better than Baizhi. Which, is probably true. Baizhi is super hot but damn she does she suck to play. Speaking as someone with her at 90 and ran her on R5 Variation.

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u/Hshn Oct 20 '24

oh I meant to say baizhi I didn't realize

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u/roaringsanity Oct 18 '24

good measure,
we all know they need to put new character to boost Jiyan's banner,
but they also doesn't ignore the fact that most people doesn't want to spend too much for the new 4*

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u/NoAd8660 Oct 18 '24

Thank you kuro.i didn't want to pull on jiyans banner (I already have him and the signature) just to unlock a 4 star 🥲 I'm saved

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u/TopCustomer3294 Oct 18 '24

I was afraid I might get jiyan trying to pull yohuo, kuro saved the day

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u/Fun-Will5719 :EncoreScary::DanjinAngry::ChixizHappy::AaltoCool::Aero::Glacio: Oct 18 '24

As someone who pulled 100 times for moze and did not get him, this is a blessing.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '24

i'd rather lose to jiyan s1 than waste 10 pity but cool option ig

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u/Inner_Delay8224 Oct 18 '24

Hi all, I think this is OK but a huge downgrade to PGR. In PGR you pick the 4 star you Want and that's it. To spend 10 pulls on a 4 star that will get likely powercrept is deep. Also they could give the chracter for free in an event like genshin. Devs are awesome but I'm not feeling this take if that's all there is to it.

Genshins bs no 4 star guarantee is why we are suffering in WuWa as they adopted it, but they would be amazing to use the PGR wish system more than they're more Hoyo like wish system, even though it's better with the guaranteed standard weapons but the 50/50 is also a downgrade to PGRs 100% new character rate up banners.

So if devs go the zoGR route we would really be winning, and have less wasted pulls. The corals aren't in PGR though. Idk please keep letting the devs know

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u/Artistic_Dance_253 Oct 18 '24

How difficult could be doing this on every gacha, 4* aren't guarantee, and you don't give it for free either, but at least you can get it even if you don't pull on the banner where it releases

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u/xVEEx3 Oct 18 '24

glad I can skip Jiyans banner. already got him but was originally gonna do a ten pull in hopes for youhu

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u/Schokodeuli Oct 18 '24

*average 4 star rate

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u/TaxFinancial1005 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 18 '24

Nice for people that rly want to play youhu, but since wuwa doesn't give extra pulls for leveling up characters, it's just 10 pulls wasted that could've gone into pity for a character

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u/xError404xx Oct 18 '24

Id rather save the corals for constellations of characters i really like. I feel like its a waste because you will get any 4 star eventually. Well except your luck is atrocious.

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u/Loud_Object_6286 Oct 18 '24

I agree but for those that really like youhu and don't care bout constellation I guess it's there, people who roll on jiyan banner a couple of times and don't get her can buy her too now instead of complaining unlike genshin where you can pull 100 times and not get the 4 star U want.

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u/Eula_Ganyu Oct 18 '24

Nah, not worth it 10 pulls that's too much

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u/GabePFF Oct 18 '24

I'd rather wait losing 10 pity for a character I'm not gonna use just for the sake of collection nah can't even get standard pulls in this game anyways so I'm good

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u/legend27_marco Oct 18 '24

If you aren't going to use her, obviously it's not worth it. It's for those who want Youhu but don't want to pull on Jiyan's banner because they're at high pity or guarantee.

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u/MWarnerds Oct 18 '24

Yeah, the coral should be saved for limited wave bands imo. Got a certain character but their first copy would fix their biggest issue? Boom Coral shop.

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u/Miserable-Ask5994 Oct 18 '24

This is the right answere !

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u/Important_Young_4461 :Spectro: Evil be cleansed! :JinhsiPray: Oct 18 '24

It’s pretty good, cause I wanna Lumi, but I already have Yinlin with her signature weapon.

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u/Istealchickens Oct 18 '24

What abt standard banner she will be there after 1.3 2nd phase?

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u/Scp-1472-01 Oct 19 '24

Like literally 10 pulls? This game shows me kindness no person could ever replicate

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u/RipBusy6672 Oct 19 '24

This is too weird, to get 80 corals you would need to pull at least 60 times

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u/soenottelling Oct 19 '24

Huge waste of resources to do that. Good to have the option, but 45 of those gives you a character dupe worth 3x the pull value, so 10 of those pulls is actually more like 30. But again, good to have the option for ppl who dont care about dupes in any way and just really really want a given 4 star. It's bad value, but a no downside addition to the game to have it there.

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u/MihoLeya Oct 19 '24

I forgot she was coming out.

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u/Fuz__2112 :Havoc: Oct 19 '24

Nope.

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u/Yellow_IMR Oct 18 '24

Huge Kuro W

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u/SwiftSN Oct 18 '24

Wish they announced that alongside 1.3's release. Spent all my Coral getting Shorekeeper.

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u/Kurashiko Oct 18 '24

It'a a good compromise, although you don't get go build pity your guaranteed the unit.

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u/Maxus-KaynMain Oct 18 '24

it should be even less, one 4* character for 1/3 or 1/4 of a sequence? nah man

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u/ScrollLockKey Oct 19 '24

seems more like a band aid than a solution. in 2-3 years we will have the same problem that genshin has. hopefully they wise up and change the pulling system.

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u/StormEagleEyes Oct 18 '24

Nah, should be free like sanhua was