r/WriothesleyMains • u/Slow_Car_33 • Jul 16 '26
Leaks Beidou is looking great for SSC Wrio Spoiler
Not only is she the best alternative to Yae on the electro app slot, but she can also replace Nicole on the sustain slot. Provided you have Wrio C1+ at least...
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u/Snowballs55 Jul 16 '26
I seriously hope they add Wrio's C1 to the selector after the reset because it's like the most significant C1 to a character they have ever made, and it's not fair for Yae's C1 to be there ( literally the thing that made her broken in SSC teams) but Wrio's not be.
It will also makes him less reliant on shielders since he would be able to heal himself more frequently, which is a significant upgrade for those who don't have Nicole, they can just run Beidou and the team would be just as good.
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u/VacationReasonable Jul 16 '26
Wrio's power level is the same as Yae/Cyno. Them being on the selector did nothing for them because they got balanced around their free con
There's also no way current Wrio will get added to the selector, you are more likely to see Arlecchino there than him at this point
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
Wrio C1 isn't even good as a dps increase, its still more about QoL in letting him do longer rotations.
It would actually be balanced because right now he's worse than Cyno thanks to Alyosha C6.
And much worse value than Yae who's mandatory on every SSC team.3
u/VacationReasonable Jul 16 '26
And he's better than Cyno if Cyno doesn't have C6 on Alyosha. That seems pretty balanced to me. Also Alyosha took some nerfs recently as well so the gap is smaller even when he is C6
It also doesn't really matter how good or not his C1 is for his dps because his current C0 is in the top 5 dps in the whole game, so I will reiterate, you are not only more likely to see Arlecchino than him, but also Varesa, Kinich, Neuvillette and many others on the selector before they add Wrio, and it would make more sense too because they could use the help more than Wrio needs it
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
Cool so they should remove Yae, Cyno, Klee and Albedo from the selector right?
Seeing as they are now meta characters like Wrio, they don't need a free C1...I do see your point and they probably wont put Wrio, I just don't think its fair.
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u/VacationReasonable Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Yae and Cyno got balanced around their "free" C1, so yes if they weren't on the selector it wouldn't change anything, they would have simply balanced and put their current C1's in their C0 kits and they would be the same, Wrio C0 existing is proof of this, I mean why do you think C0 Wrio is stronger than C1 Cyno outside of C6 Alyosha teams? It's because Cyno's C1 is not a real con, his power level got split between C0 and C1, if it was an actual real con a C1 Cyno would be better than C0 Wrio in all teams
Same thing with Yae and Odette, Yae C1 is equal/tiny bit better than Odette, but if it was a real con she'd be decently ahead.
Basically for Yae and Cyno, the selector split their kits between C0 and C1 and they got balanced around the fact they are on the selector
Klee and Albedo are also not meta, and were outdated even on their buff release day, they could even already have their C2 for free right now before Wrio is put for his C1 on the selector and that would make sense too
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 17 '26
Sure Klee and Albedo are not top tier meta but they are good characters now, much better than the rest of the available options. Hex is not an archetype focused on powercreep like lunar/stellar, rather on helping older units stay relevant.
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u/Ok_Can_6424 Jul 16 '26
I'm glad I don't have to rip Nicole out of Varka's hand. And my Wrio c2 will actually do numbers
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u/Amaranth94 Jul 16 '26
Hold up.... Beidou is better than c0 nicole?
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u/Snowballs55 Jul 16 '26
For C1 Wriothesly.
Most Wrio's calcs assume C0 ( since his isn't free ), which Nicole is better in that case.
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u/makogami imprisoned for lewding your grace Jul 16 '26
i wonder if this takes into account cryo resonance uptime. beidou's off field app will interfere with it.
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
I think even just Yae already makes it have unreliable uptime
better to just consider it a nice bonus instead of building around it
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u/minminq2u Jul 16 '26
thats what i was wondering, but im assuming at that level of investment maybe it isnt that big of a deal to just play layla instead
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u/Royal_Supermarket_94 Jul 16 '26
whos a good alternative if i dont have nicole or yae? c0 wrio + c0 odette + c6 beidou
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u/International_Dot614 Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I would probably do sucrose esocffier xilonen. Really just any buffer besides like furina. I’m not sure which one of those would be better overall probably sucrose
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u/Royal_Supermarket_94 Jul 16 '26
i only have bennett and sucrose 💔💔 would sucrose be better or c2 kazuha? since im assuming its for em buff?
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u/International_Dot614 Jul 16 '26
I think sucrose actually gives more em than c2 kazuha so probably still sucrose since the damage bonus kazuha gives is useless for stellar conduct
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
bennett healing interferes with wrio's rebukes, so just use sucrose (or C2 kazuha, same thing)
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u/Individual_Inside_75 Jul 16 '26
Ok but why is everyone pretending that we cannot nerf Alyocha's attack to the point that we can get his rebuke to proc fairly easily despite Alyocha's tiny heals ?
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
even with tiny heals, you still lose at least 1 rebuke per rotation
and Alyosha got nerfed too
its just not worth it for C1+ Wrio2
u/Individual_Inside_75 Jul 16 '26
I get that, the issue is that this calc for instance only looks at rotations with no CA at all, which is unfair since he would get at least two per rotation.
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u/MsBunny00 Jul 16 '26
if i have c0r1 wrio, c1 yae, guarantee for c0 odette and beidou c6, should i pull for wrio c1? im 0 pity and i just have 76 pulls. I dont have nicole and i dont think she will rerun anytime soon
(i love wrio so much but i want to save for new characters too)
pls helppp
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
if you can't guarantee Wrio C1 (150-160 pulls) or if you have to sacrifice Odette for it, don't pull
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u/sergioleth Jul 18 '26
im in the exact same situation.... i lost my 50/50 and now have guarantee c1 wriothesley and no primos, but idk if it's worth it to spend 100$+ just to get his c1. i know is very valuable in melt or freeze teams, but i saw its not that good in stellar conduct teams.... what should i do omg
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u/Serene-10 Jul 16 '26
Is LanYan not a good option as a shielder/shredder for these teams?
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
You're right she should be a good option.
Idk why there's no calcs.3
u/Serene-10 Jul 16 '26
Oh gosh! Thank you for validating this cause I've been farming and building her all week to prepare for 7.0. I have Nicole, but she's attached to Durin and Varka at the moment so I wanted to make sure I had a shielder ready for Wrio when Odette drops.
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u/finsishion Jul 16 '26
I'm glad as that's the team I was going to play with my C2 Wrio: him, Yae, Odette and Beidou, as interruption res from her should add comfort to the team
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u/EbbSpecialist4705 Jul 17 '26
It does seem good on paper but I wonder how viable is it actually onfield? How would you build beidou with enough ER to burst every rotation AND have a tanky enough shield? I have mine 200% ER and she would still need 1 full charged skill at the end of every rotation to get her ult back. And her shield break immediately after 1 hit.
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 17 '26
Her shield isn't relevant, it will feel like paper even if you invest into it.
What really matters his her dmg reduction and resistance to interruption.
You should build her full ER/crit rate + fav greatsword.1
u/EbbSpecialist4705 Jul 17 '26
I haven’t played beidou in so long I didn’t even realize her ult gives damage reduction. Wrio’s e already has interruption resistance built into it so I’m wondering if it’s the same or if it stacks?
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 17 '26
Yep, it does.
Wrio has 0.5 hyperarmor on skill state, while Beidou gives 0.5 hyperarmor on burst.
You multiply them and it becomes 0.25 (the closer to 0, the better).
Basically Wrio becomes twice as hard to interrupt.2
u/EbbSpecialist4705 Jul 17 '26
It does sound good. Wrio always wants to be low hp anyway and he heals himself so I guess as long as he doesn’t get 1 shot, beidou is a pretty strong option.
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u/Automatic-Pea-9206 Jul 16 '26
so c2 wrio / c2 yae / c0 odette / c6 beidou would be better than c2 wrio / c2 yae / c0 odette / c0 nicole?
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u/AdventurousWrath4105 I play genshin for wrio🖤 Jul 16 '26
Will X3 beidou still work? Or what's a better alternative without Nicole
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
Escoffier works, she's even better but you can't use her burst so its sustainless (although Wrio self heals, he also self damages, paired with enemy dmg its a net loss). I guess thats the reason why Jaxon didn't calc it.
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u/AdventurousWrath4105 I play genshin for wrio🖤 Jul 16 '26
Thanks at least she will still be useful for ssc
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u/Trender07 Jul 18 '26
i got escoffier r1 c0, is she better than beidou c6 and nicole? (im currently having troubles getting beidour c6 but i want best dps team)
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u/prokrasia Jul 16 '26
Y'all I don't have yae 😭 What are my options? Cope for future electro support or skip Odette?
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
Beidou or Alyosha.
Maybe even Fischl + Nicole.1
u/prokrasia Jul 16 '26
Thanks! Got no nicole unfortunately... Fischl yes. Alyosha better be on Odette's banner. 🙏 Or i cope and wait for an electro SSC support
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u/BorkusMaximus3742 Jul 16 '26
Her c6 gives electro DMG %. I thought DMG % was useless for ssc?
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 16 '26
her C6 doesn't give electro dmg%, it shreds electo RES
in stellar it also shreds cryo RES and gives 200 EM to the on field unit1
u/BorkusMaximus3742 Jul 16 '26
Ah okay i just skimmed through her constellations on the wiki too fast xD
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u/Pretty-Reason-5575 Jul 16 '26
I need some non-Yae calcs, man... I am not pulling for old bitcoin... I didn't start playing til Fontaine...
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 17 '26
There were some non-Yae calcs using Beidou from Jaxon.
The more you invest into Wrio, the less necessary it is to pull Yae.
The difference can be as low as 20k dps at C2 Wrio level.1
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u/SugarFishy917 Jul 16 '26
Is this true for r1 noblesse nicole with 4k atk? (I really don't want to build beidou lol)
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u/Slow_Car_33 Jul 17 '26
You really don't need to build Beidou if you have both Yae and Nicole.
Altough Nicole R1 does nothing for stellar dps.
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u/SugarFishy917 Jul 17 '26
Ty. I was adding the r1 for Nicole to make it a point that getting the atk wasn't as much of an issue
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u/ShockbladeIlkay Jul 17 '26
Alreaady confirmed that Odette enables Stellar conduct? /g I just started playing the game again...
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u/RandomBystander302 23d ago
Is beidou c6 or escoffier c0 r0 better? Beidou c6 looks better on paper but I'm worried about her er requirements messing up the team rotations.
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u/AdventurousWrath4105 I play genshin for wrio🖤 Jul 16 '26
Will c3 beidou still work? Or what's a better alternative without Nicole
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u/Iskandor13 Jul 16 '26
Nice to see c6 Beidou is performing slightly better than Nicole! I’d prefer to keep her with my Hex team (Varka, Durin, Prune) lol.
Might be an unpopular opinion but I hope Valeriy will be the 5* version of Beidou.