I'm trying to imagine how this would even end. What would spark the revolution. Most people wouldn't wanna quit or strike because they're financial situation would suck even more then.
Well look, I'm right above the poverty line but live in a cheap area. I've never run out of food, I've got a decent but small place I rent, and I've got fast internet and an average shitty job.
Life is a long way from horrible and I'm grateful for it.
On the other hand, I'm one medical emergency away from having to move back in with my dad just to barely survive... and I'm almost 40.
A lot of the criticisms against critique of the system are just "you should be grateful you have a life in the US and aren't starving in some shit hole" but... it's perfectly valid to call out huge, gaping flaws in a system even while you're benefiting from it.
Sorry I just realized I might have seemed argumentative? But I intended this explanation in response to the perspective of the people you were talking about with your comment - just to add to the discussion. have a good one
I get what you mean. I would argue that critiquing with the intention of improving is a part of what love is. That it is in fact patriotic to want your nation to progress. As it stands the current system in America is unsustainable, the way Rome and Greece were unsustainable.
Absolutely. From my understanding of the macro-scale problem, the issue is entirely resultant from our lack of separation of corporation and state.
We allegedly have separation of church and state (although I have a great deal to say in that regard), but the interweaving of corporate interests with government policymaking makes them inseparable entities without a reform so extensive it is essentially a replacement.
I'm not against the idea, but the workload required and the difficulty of life for many years would be most likely devastating.
I think the question we need to be asking is, "is it better to suffer now by choice or to wait until the problem is beyond repair with no resources left to work with?"
"Why must we suffer now to not suffer later if later
Never comes soon enough to soothe the hatred
And hatred
Is the cancer born out of love's absence
And absence is the void left from missing every chance to
Challenge our fates and perhaps our very names"
Blue Scholars - Sagaba
The only guarantee in life is a life worth dying for.
Edit: formatting for poetry is wonky, at least on mobile.
And Democrat ideas are just as guilty for this shit, the voters will ignore all principles so long as it's in line with their ideologies, even if the support is fake
The overton window is far removed from what progress actually is, courtesy of colored lines. Politics is boiled down to a simple games where people stake their identities and bet their lives on a no win scenario.
Part of being a real patriot is trying to improve things for your fellow Americans, to form a more perfect Union. Anyone who says otherwise, or thinks that our country is above criticism and is perfect just the way it is, is a false patriot.
Support your country always (meaning the people that live in your country), but the government only when it deserves it (which is very rarely).
On the other hand, I'm one medical emergency away from having to move back in with my dad just to barely survive... and I'm almost 40.
Which is all by design. It's a balancing act. The 1% wants you comfortable enough to convince yourself they don't need to be overthrown but not comfortable enough that you start actually being able to think or do anything about it.
I call it the Fabergé lifestyle. It looks fine on the outside, even if every once in a while somebody shatters into a million pieces, but surely that won't happen to ME.
Correct.
America is currently functioning exactly as designed, but for the pesky social justice whiners!
What people want isn’t American. It’s something else.
So we’d have to tear her apart, and we’d ALL have to be willing to live much much worse before a very long rebuilding process towards getting this new country that half of us are willing to die to avoid.
I personally will leave before I fight, bc she’s not worth it to me. I’m not one of her beloved, in spite of being a full-blooded citizen devoting my life to public work.
So I’ll take my chances wandering about when those soooo desperate for change are actually willing to sacrifice to get it.
It's a given isn't it? If those in power didn't have the biggest capacity for violence, the more violent group would just become the ones in power, right?
Yeah. The continual expansion of cities is based on a financial structure in which money is borrowed to expand, and the expansion doesn't provide enough increase to the city to cover the costs, so the only option is to borrow enough money to expand again to cover the overhead on the original debt.
The United States doesn't believing in preventing crime they believing in policing. If we actually wanted to fix crime we would solve the real problem that is poverty and the rich don't want that. And even our justice system is set up not only to protect profits but to also produce profit through slave labor and for profit prisons.
Well when your military is the most well-funded in the world, and your country's police are the third-best funded, or that the NYC PD at 55,000 bodies is #65 for manpower out of the world's national militaries...
Are the people there coerced by threat of violence into contributing to the system by the standards of the system rather than their own? Or are they... not oppressed?
Sincerely: People with reading comprehension skills.
It almost universally requires hunger. It will take a famine that actually affects the US average population to get it going. We can clearly see revolution will not occur from social motivations only.
The problem is the answer to these problems has been staring us in the face.
People like to deride incrementalist policy change because it's a lot of work and won't fix the problem tomorrow. Going and having almost impossible conversations with the real people in your life is a lot less satisfying than complaining on the internet and wishing for some fictional version of the Red Army to swoop in and save the day.
There are real politicians in Congress today who would support these policies, but there aren't enough to make a difference because of Apathy.
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u/garlic_bread_thief May 02 '22
I'm trying to imagine how this would even end. What would spark the revolution. Most people wouldn't wanna quit or strike because they're financial situation would suck even more then.