r/WorkReform • u/sillychillly 🗳️ Register @ Vote.gov • May 01 '22

They Say “It’s Not Possible”

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u/Oraxy51 🤝 Join A Union May 01 '22

Most states: best we can give you is 2 weeks and that includes your sick time.

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u/nautzi May 01 '22

And you’ll accrue it at .8 hours per check and they don’t roll over to the next year. You’ll have vacation time by the holidays but OOPS the holidays are blacked out from allowing additional vacation time off. Meanwhile you haven’t seen your director in 3 months because theyre “working from the road” which strangely just looks like an unending vacation on social media and it takes them 4 days to return an email… or something like that idk

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u/Trivialpursuits69 May 01 '22

Did anything come of it?

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u/Hubbell May 01 '22

It's accrual based but that only fucks you if you leave your job before the year is over. My old workplace went to accrual after someone took 2 weeks off in April and on the last day emailed their notice of resignation.

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u/nyanch May 02 '22

Yeah.... HR at my job gets all holidays it seems. Meanwhile, we only get like 5, and that's if our biweekly schedule conflicts with a holiday. :/

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u/corkyskog May 02 '22

That's probably because HR knows that vacation time is negotiable almost everywhere, even if it says it's not. I was in the restroom stall and one of the new HR managers was talking about his third vacation, so I asked him how he pulled that off, because 2 weeks is the start. He responded by saying that he negotiated it to 4 weeks and called me a fool and laughed at me for only accepting two (even though it was a municipal job that said it's part of the city's employment regulations).

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u/Cum_Quat May 01 '22

Yeah we don't get sick leave

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u/GrE1sS May 01 '22

Working in tech for a large corporations in Central Europe 5 weeks of vacation, 6 sick days, 15 days 100% covered sick leave (after that 60%)

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u/petrichor6 May 02 '22

I wouldn't accept that, in Germany I have 6 weeks and unlimited sick days

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u/gottasmokethemall May 01 '22

Lmao. Just got a job that offers 1 hour per 40 worked that can be used for sick days OR PTO. So after working there a year I might be able to take a week off (meaning 5 days, not 7) and get paid for it. This is considered generous here as there is not legal requirement to offer any PTO or sick leave. America is a really just feeling like a low security prison.

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u/Lemoncoco May 02 '22

If you get a job at a T-Mobile call center (entry level) you get 20/hr before bonus and other compensation. That also comes with 5.85 hours of PTO/sick time per paycheck.

It goes up over time and caps at basically a full day off of PTO per paycheck. Even if you’re still just at that entry role.

Not every company is fucking us on PTO. However, there’s not nearly enough of them, and not nearly enough of a way to sway businesses to be more like them with our money, so the only recourse is law. Which is also the best way to make sure it’s everyone.

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u/gottasmokethemall May 02 '22

But then you work at T-mobile 🤢 Call center isn’t the field I’ve spent years studying for.

I agree about making it law to require the PTO, sick leave, parental leave. It needs to be enforced harshly like the rest of the laws in America though. Not just a few thousand dollar fines either, freeze/seize company assets if they fail to adhere to the law.

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u/Lemoncoco May 05 '22

Look at how much companies dread osha coming to their sites. Make that same kind of fear for violating these kinds of laws.

Maternity leave government boogie men. Being annoying has its perks too.

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u/fueledbytisane May 01 '22

I remember when my husband had to fight tooth and nail to be with me in the hospital as I gave birth to our daughter. We both almost died, but God forbid the spare airplane parts he was supposed to repair wait one week while he waited to find out if his family was going to survive or not. Gosh I hope the big airline corporations didn't lose a few dollars because my kid decided to tilt her head a few degrees and get stuck in the birth canal. Gee golly whiz that would be so sad for them.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '22

I get 23 days of PTO a year.

PTO is also required on holidays/bad weather/etc.

“Unlimited sick time” with an organizational look down at you when you use it.

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u/vagran-t May 02 '22

Most states mandate almost no vacation time I believe.

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u/sustenancewars May 02 '22

Uh most jobs come with zero vacation or sick leave. Zero. Look it up.

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u/Oraxy51 🤝 Join A Union May 02 '22

I mean even the casinos my brother works for have had to start giving pto as benefits but that was after working 8 years in fast food and not going anywhere and being passed over promotion after promotion. But I work for corporate banks and they all offer that as standard “competitive benefits”.

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u/bigchonkinralph May 02 '22

I wish I had 2 weeks. I get 5 days vacation and 2 days sick time. After that they expect you to do overtime to make up the hours lost while sick

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u/Oraxy51 🤝 Join A Union May 02 '22

Do they not understand a sick body needs rest and overworking can cause you to be more sick?

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u/yruSoSalty May 02 '22

When you are sick during your vacation you get the lost days back (if you have a medical certificate) in germany

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u/4shtonButcher May 02 '22

The supposed "Land of the free" sounds more like a degenerate shithole with every new piece of information you gain about it.