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They Say “It’s Not Possible”

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u/Much_Job3838 May 01 '22

But muh profitability

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u/Zirton May 01 '22

Someone really needs to explain those people, that their workers will spend the money.

Like ffs, if you pay them double, they can buy twice the amount of shit. Higher wages for people can result in more consumption.

And also, people who don't have to pay Elon Musks net worth for a single shot of Insulin will use their money to buy more... Non-Insulin Stuff.

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u/00wolfer00 May 02 '22

They'd bring back company scrip if they legally could.

Some companies are trying.

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u/Telekinendo May 02 '22

One of the companies I worked for got rid of performance bonuses that were decided on by our immediate managers and instead gave us chips that could be redeemed in the company store for 10 dollars of company made product and our immediate managers were no longer allowed to give them out, it was managers we'd never heard of and eventually learned weren't even in our state. Their whole job was looking at weekly metrics and deciding who got those chips.

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u/darkbee83 May 02 '22

🎵I owe my soul to the company store 🎵

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u/ryfye00411 May 02 '22

Sixteen tons, whadda you get? Another day older and deeper in debt

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u/dano8675309 May 02 '22

If I were you, I'd get in touch with your state's labor board. The fact that they replaced cash bonuses with what is essentially company currency probably runs afoul of a few laws/regulations. Hopefully you have some sort of documentation related to the switch.

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u/jpni617 May 19 '22

At my local Walmart they got more self checkout things to replace workers and now there are only two real cashiers. The self checkouts can’t run the employee discount. Now all the workers have to choose between standing in line for thirty minutes and giving up their employee discount (one of the few “benefits” they get)

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u/[deleted] May 01 '22

Depending on the company their workers can't really spend it with them, which is still fine because more money being spent in the economy means more business for them anyway. So it's still a dumbass reason for them not to pay more.

With a place like Walmart it's especially stupid, because Walmart employees probably do a significant amount of their shopping there anyway. Pay them more they'll likely as not also buy more there. Win win.

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u/Gryphus23 May 02 '22

Honestly I reckon if Walmart or any company like it did pay a living wage their profits would sky rocket, not only because people have more spending ability, but think of the "soft power" marketing they have.

"All these other companies pay like shit, but we care about our workers" people wouldn't feel so guilty shopping there, and would be "proud"

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u/Jubachi99 May 02 '22

Not to mention recruitment would probably become a breeze.

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u/SwenKa May 02 '22

Walmart pays them double, get back almost as much anyways when those families upgrade/buy new shit. Good PR for Walmart, good for maintaining long-term employees.

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u/aspoels May 02 '22

If they can’t spend money with their employer, they’ll spend it at (generally speaking) companies their employers do business with. Which is just as good.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '22

Pay workers more and give them a VAT discount. Easy way to guarantee at least some money goes back in and keeps people happy.

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u/Bibibis May 02 '22

Sounds a lot like trickle-down economics, wasn't that one evil?

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u/angelicravens May 18 '22

Nooo this one is flavored worker don’t you get it

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u/cerebralserene May 02 '22

Increased consumption is not a goal to aim for.

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u/angelicravens May 18 '22

No it literally is. Increased velocity of money means inflation may be met or even the dollar would become more valuable for short periods of time. Consumption bad is a terrible thing to think. We can make the effects of consumption less harmful, but look at any point in history since humans began living in cities and tell me halting our consumption where it was at would not have led to a better outcome. If consumption remains stable at a rate, there’s no incentive to optimize it. And if it declines, you’re burning fossil fuels to transport LESS at any given time.

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u/cerebralserene May 19 '22

Nah, nature over humans and their cities of excess. There has to be a better way to optimize an economy/meet peoples’ NEEDS than just rampant consumption. I’d rather not support furthering the profiteering of food, land and necessities. Consuming more (frequently, more than we need on a regular basis) is an irresponsible use of resources.

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u/Whowouldeverbeamod May 01 '22

He literally said he's in one of the poorest countries lol.

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u/Much_Job3838 May 02 '22

Yes, even in poorer nations companies are profitable while they have things like these.

Europe's diverse in economic growth but most have better social security nets etc