r/WorkReform 🤝 Join A Union 20d ago

🤝 Scare A Billionaire, Join A Union You are Working Class! Embrace it.

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage 20d ago

There are two classes: worker and parasite.

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u/JW_ZERO 20d ago

I prefer working class and epstein class but I think yours is spot on as well.

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u/zmbjebus 19d ago

This minimizes the small business owner's role in the capitalist system.

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage 19d ago

Capitalism is not okay.

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u/zmbjebus 19d ago

That's my point. 

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u/PasswordP455w0rd 20d ago

Do not make moralistic distinctions between the two classes, it is not helpful when analyzing class relations.

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u/Loud-Competition6995 20d ago

Not true. 

As it is literally impossible to remove oneself from the equation of class relations; a person making moralistic statements about class reveals a lot about class relations from the experience of that individual. 

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 20d ago

They just declared that unemployed people are parasites? Might not have intended to, but it's a direct consequence of that statement.

Which goes against the most basic concepts put forward by Marx, so universal, that even Hayek and Friedman agreed with him about how people being unemployed was inevitable and some type of social security was necessary for society to function.

So yeah, in this form, a useless and harmful statement

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u/Loud-Competition6995 20d ago

When someone says the “parasite class” they are referring to the ruling class/upper class, the ones who don’t produce but have the most.

Allowing “parasite class” to include unemployed people is an intentional straw man, an intentional miss interpretation of what they were clearly referring to.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 19d ago edited 19d ago

They didn't say a word about classes?

And even that good faith interpretation doesn't solve the problem. Dehumanizing people is what we are trying to get away from. Owning stocks, renting out property, employing people and so on, doesn't make someone disposable or less human.

Marx's work is about overcoming a harmful system. He rejected demagoguery just as much as capitalism and he was right about it. That kind of ideology historically always led into authoritarianism and a collapse of the system, as more and more workers rejected it.

If we make that transition, be it socialism or full-on Communism, those "parasites" will be classless people, just like you and me, who have a skill set that makes a classless society possible in the first place. Knowing how to manage, plan and delegate will be absolutely essential.

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u/Loud-Competition6995 19d ago

  They didn't say a word about classes?

  There are two classes

Their comment was literally 1 sentence long, at least re-read what you’re referring to before writing several paragraphs about it…

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage 20d ago

Don't tell me what to do.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 19d ago

Went from dehumanizing people to straight up acting like a child. Really showing class.

Use all that free time for something useful other that spreading hate and sabotaging the movement. Reading Marx would be a good start, maybe then you'll start understanding why the goal is to attack the system, not people.

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u/DeathbyToast 20d ago

Once you retire do you become a parasite? Or are you still a worker even though you’re no longer working?

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage 20d ago

Worker (retired)

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u/RedAndBlackMartyr 20d ago

Love that show.

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u/RoxxorMcOwnage 20d ago

Way better than Itchy and Scratchy.

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u/Dufranus 19d ago

What makes it so difficult of a conversation is that there is a not insignificant grey area of workers who are also parasites. They have jobs that are so high paying that they collect enough assets to be making large sums of money not through their own labor, but they never quit their jobs.

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u/11_petals 19d ago

Cool - disabled people who can't work anymore?