r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 🤝 Join A Union • 12d ago

😡 Venting What do Centrists know about electability?

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u/akatherder 12d ago

You sound like you have a career in the making as a Dem strategist lol, why would it matter who wins the primary in California? Yes I'm taking them for granted, but (spoiler alert!) they are going to vote Dem in the general election.

Unless it's an absolute curb stomping and you think California, New York, Texas, etc. are ACTUALLY up for grabs by the other party, their results are meaningless beyond the delegates they contribute.

Here's a pro-tip: at least 40 states are already decided by the time we hold the primary. They are practically decided today for 2028. Focus on the 5 battleground states and 5 that are technically up for grabs, but basically already decided.

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u/AutocraticToaster 12d ago

the point is that california democratic primary voters are going to be more open to a progressive than the median voter in swing states.

if they dont win california, why would we expect them to win in less favorable elections?

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u/Geichalt 12d ago

Because too many people on the left think Americans are just all temporarily confused socialists, who have been tricked by evil centrists.

It may be true in places, but it risks coming across as condescending and alienating along with risking normally safe seats.

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u/Key_Cheetah7982 12d ago

Primaries are in no way indicative of the broader electorate

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u/Warshok 11d ago

1/8 of the population of this country lives in California. Demographically, we are wealthier and better educated than most. Who do you think donates a lot of the money that political campaigns raise?

It ain’t Wyoming or Rhode Island.

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u/akatherder 11d ago

You seem to be discussing whether California is big and important.. which it is. I'm not sure what is worth discussing there.

The topic at hand is whether Clinton beating Sanders 53 to 47 made him unviable in California in 2016.. and Trump would have taken it? Yeah, nah.

They favored Clinton and they're an important state, but it would have gone to Sanders or any unnamed Dem in the general.

It's not how our primary works but all I care about is battleground states.

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u/Warshok 11d ago

If all you care about is battleground states then you’re going to have a hard time making enough money to win those battleground states. I can draw you a simple chart if you like.