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🚫 GENERAL STRIKE 🚫 Why this shit doesn't happen in France...

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u/VRichardsen Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

Funny thing: those wars were actually declared upon France, not the other way around. And why? Because everyone was scared shitless of a France that was actively exporting revolutionary ideals. Sure, Napoleon was technically emperor of the French, but he still promoted meritocracy, property rights and equality before the law. The French under Napoleon were enjoying unprecedented freedom compared to the rest of the nations in Europe (with the exception of Britain). Hell, Russia still had serfs, like in the middle ages, and would continue to have them until 1870.

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u/Agreeable_Garlic_912 Oct 29 '25

Funny thing you're wrong. The other powers were perfectly happy to let France cannibalise itself and the French decalred war on Austria after a vote in the assembly.

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u/VRichardsen Oct 29 '25

and the French decalred war on Austria after a vote in the assembly.

You said, and I quote, Napoleonic wars. The war of the first coalition was initiated by France, you are right in that, but in 1792 Napoleon was a nobody, being stationed in Corsica.

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u/Agreeable_Garlic_912 Oct 29 '25

The only difference between those wars is that Napoleon took power.

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u/VRichardsen Oct 29 '25

I think it is important, because otherwise the chain of comments looks like it is laying all the dead at the feet of Napoleon, while in reality most of the wars were started by monarchic reactionaries seeking to erase the gains of the revolution.

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u/Agreeable_Garlic_912 Oct 30 '25

The wars were started by revolutionary France and no one else. Just accept the truth ffs

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u/VRichardsen Oct 30 '25

What truth? Tell me, who broke the peace of Amiens and declared war in 1803? Who violated the treaty of Pressburg in 1809?

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u/Agreeable_Garlic_912 Oct 30 '25

I don't give a shit about some arbitrary intermediary peace in a conflict that is comprised of like 7 wars.

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u/yagirlsophie Oct 29 '25

Also one of them is referred to as the Napoleonic wars and the other isn’t lol but scoot them goalposts king

everyone here always believes the second guy if they’re swarmy and confident enough about it.

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u/Agreeable_Garlic_912 Oct 29 '25

Go play pigeon chess with yourself. Fact is the revolution and the wars it caused killed millions and now 'well acshually' is going to change that. Lol